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[darknoon5]

Considering it's DLC, I don't think either way the decision will be very important, and as said earlier in the thread, whatever *it* is may not even be revealed, and if it is it probably won't have a huge impact on the storyline, though I definitely want to see it resolved.

Though it's pretty obvious it's got something to do with Sovereign, they wouldn't just throw those images in for no reason.



Just wondering, who keeps the data here, and who destroys it? I usually destroy it.

[Ajara123]

i kept the data.

[supakillaii]

Unfortunately I destroyed it on my main playthrough

[Thompson family]

The graybox info might explain a lot, actually. For instance, why is Anderson, alone among all people, so absolutely convinced Shepard is right? Why did he lose so much "political clout" and watch the rest of the Alliance "brass" swoop down "like vultures" on everything Shepard said about the Reaper threat? Why is Anderson meeting with somebody in Cerberus, as we see in the video at the Shadow Reaper base? In fact, why was Shepard and the Normandy not allowed to make a "victory tour" and were ordered out to hunt Geth remnants right after becoming the biggest heroes in the galaxy?

It's enough to make a guy wonder if the first encounter with the Collector vessel was a trap.

Why is Cerberus so intent on developing super-soldiers are all costs? Why have they been allowed to go as far as they have, being an "avowed enemy" of the council, yet my Shepard can still dock at the Citadel and walk to Anderson's office with two high-ranking know Cerberus operatives, Jacob and Miranda, with him?

Modifié par Thompson family, 19 décembre 2010 - 06:02 .

[Rekkampum]

glacier1701 wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Or it might be Sovereign because I was looking at that picture the wrong way. Now I'm really unsure on what to do with the data. In any case, here's a more zoomed in pic from the wiki:

so wtf am I looking at here?

 This is a pic from Kasumi's DLC when we get to see inside the grey box. There is discussion on whether or not this is a reaper since some of the info inside the box could mean war. I am in a minority in believing that this is not a reaper (there is SOME resemblance I admit but not enough and certainly not from the claim being because of markings).

 Just had an additional thought here - this is from PAID DLC. As such that means ANY info from it cannot be assumed to be in the next game OR important enough to mean much. Remember that when ME3 starts the assumption has to be that the player has NOT obtained ANY of the DLC issued between ME2 and ME3. The ONLY way this could be important would be if somewhere in ME3 this was given to us in some manner. In other words perhaps it is a reaper but its throwaway material because its NOT in the original ME2 game.

Throwaway material simply because it's DLC? Last time I checked, the game either tracked your choices first game or used a preset order of choices and referenced them via announcements. Take the Bring Down the Sky DLC. For that, regardless of whether you saved the hostages or not, you hear an announcement about it, along with countless effects from events that happened in ME1 that resulted from the default Shepard's actions. The latest DLC (LOTSB) is supposed to be the first in a whole series of DLC that bridge the two games together. The only DLC info that didn't pass on to ME2 was Pinnacle Station, but otherwise it tracked everything.

Let's remind ourselves that Bioware's been pretty ardent about the 1000+ variables in this upcoming game, so it's more than likely DLC content was considered will be implemented or referenced in some way - via cameo or announcement or side missions - and it would, in my opinion, be blasphemy to think they'd throw possible information about Reapers out the window. Most likely, what will happen is that the choices made in those DLC events will be referenced somehow if they aren't directly implemented into the game itself.

[Interactive Civilian]

darknoon5 wrote...

Just wondering, who keeps the data here, and who destroys it? I usually destroy it.

I have only played through the DLC once, as I only just got it last week. I assume my choices don't affect how Kasumi reacts for the rest of the game, but I'll pretend they do. I kept the data for 2 main reasons:

1.) To give Kasumi some peace of mind. Kasumi impressed me. She is definitely the type my femShep wants on her crew, and giving her the chance to deal with her loss and gain some comfort from the memories in the greybox is in line with the way my Shepard operates. It was definitely a situation of crew comes first. And judging by her interest in Jacob, I assume she gets over it (though I'm certain this happens regardless of what happens to the data).

Anyway, I just wanted to make sure she keeps that quirky little smile on her face.

2.) I couldn't care less about whether or not the information is damning to the Alliance. My femShep values truth over loyalty, and I like to think she inspires loyalty by being truthful. Destroying the data because it might make the Alliance look bad is not an option. If the data gets released eventually, the Alliance will have to figure out how to deal with the truth of their actions and the consequences thereof. As has and will the Illusive Man if I ever get the chance. It's, in a sense, kind of like the big hubbub these days about the Wikileaks releases and governments freaking out and scrambling for cover. If you can't handle the truth of your actions becoming known, especially as a governing body, then you shouldn't be committing such acts.

Then again, I'm an idealist.

Slightly off topic, but oddly (and perhaps hypocritically), I did almost the opposite in the Tali situation. I chose to withold the truth about Tali's father from the Admiralty Board and Conclave. My "justification" for that however is that I / my femShep care about Tali more than I do the entire Quarian species (to paraphrase from the dialog, I didn't help one of their people; I helped one of mine). Also, I can imagine being able to talk to Tali about it (which sadly doesn't happen, at least not in ME2), and maybe convince her that perhaps it would be better for the truth to come out. Either way, I feel that this one is her choice to make, not mine.

In the case of Kasumi's greybox, destroying the box or not is my choice. Not destroying the box now does not necessarily mean I never will, or that I absolutely will release the data. It just leaves either option open, depending on what the future brings. So, for the sake of Kasumi's peace of mind and trust, and also to leave my options open in the future regarding the data, I kept the box.

She's one of my crew, and as long as she remains so, I've got her back if the data puts her in danger.

Modifié par Interactive Civilian, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:25 .

[didymos1120]

Rekkampum wrote...
The only DLC info that didn't pass on to ME2 was Pinnacle Station, but otherwise it tracked everything.

Actually, they did record a news piece just for Pinnacle Station.  For whatever reason, be it a bug or just getting cut, it doesn't play.

[Y0-Y0Jimb0]

Sorry for dragging up an old post but this was a damn good find on Kasumi's graybox and its contents. I'm on my 4th ME2 play through and Kasumi's one of my fav characters. Previously, I never took any notice of what was in the graybox or what Keiji had to say to Kasumi until I heard and saw "If the council ever got wind of this.. the Alliance could be implicated" and then that big pic of the Reaper... I can't believe I never noticed the reaper or that statement

Now that really made things interesting - several questions (1) Who killed Keiji ? (2) What's the reaper doing there and where did that info come from ? (3) What was the Alliance up to that could implicate it and get into trouble with the council ? (4) If you let Kasumi keep the graybox, could Cerberus get access to its contents with or without Kasumi's knowledge once she was onboard the Normandy ? (5) What impact did the graybox have on the outcome of the ME3 if it was not destroyed, etc ?

I've normally kept the box for the same reason as "Interactive" and only once have destroyed it as I was annoyed with the total lack of dialogue with Kasumi on the Normandy once you completed her mission and had hoped that by destroying it, the dialogue options may have improved but that obviously was not the case.

[capn233]

Hock killed Keiji when he took out his greybox.

As for the data, it is referred to in a side mission in ME3. Which wasn't out when they made this thread.

[Morlath]

Interesting idea but I think the majority of the thread missed a simple idea (in case anyone is interesting in debating it).

Namely that all the images are memories of Kenji and may not actually involved in the data itself. The Reaper image could very easily be from intel he stole/saw on the Citadel attack.