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[hornacek]

I have never done the Arl of Redcliffe quest before the Broken Circle quest - I always end up doing the BC quest  first of the 4 treaty quests in order to (a) get Wynne, and ( get the Attribute bonuses.  But for my next game I've decided to do the AoR quest first (just to shake things up).

In my previous game-plays when I have to decide what to do with Connor in the AoR quest I always go to the Mages to get their help.  Since I've already completed the BC quest (and gotten the Mages' support) they're eager to help me.  So what will happen if I haven't done the BC quest yet?  If I go to the Tower for help with Connor will they help me right away or will they say "oh sorry, we've got these Abominations running loose in the tower, can't help you now" and I'll have to put the rest of the AoR quest on hold until I complete the BC quest?

[Addai]

You have to finish Broken Circle before you can go back and save Connor. So, IOW, you leave Redcliffe, but when you get to the Tower it starts the Broken Circle quest. Once that's completed, the mages will help you just like before.



Just kill Isolde and spare yourself the trouble.

[Ramante]

hornacek wrote...

In my previous game-plays when I have to decide what to do with Connor in the AoR quest I always go to the Mages to get their help.  Since I've already completed the BC quest (and gotten the Mages' support) they're eager to help me.  So what will happen if I haven't done the BC quest yet?  If I go to the Tower for help with Connor will they help me right away or will they say "oh sorry, we've got these Abominations running loose in the tower, can't help you now" and I'll have to put the rest of the AoR quest on hold until I complete the BC quest?

You have to put the AoR quest on hold, so go to the tower first or use some of the other.. demon-killing ways (blood-ritual or kill Connor).

[hornacek]

Ok, I will probably try one of the other options to deal with Connor next time. But a good note for future games - do the Circle quest before the Redcliffe quest.

[Sarah1281]

For RP-ing reasons it's probably best to do the Circle before Redcliffe if you're going that route as it is hard enough to belive that the demon did nothing during the two days heading to the circle, getting the mages to leave immediately, and returning would have taken. If you had to actually complete that quest, too, then it makes no sense at all that the demon was quiet.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 15 mai 2010 - 07:31 .

[BigBad]

I generally choose to believe that Jowan used blood magic to keep Connor docile, probably on the order of Bann Teagan.

[Riot Inducer]

BigBad wrote...

I generally choose to believe that Jowan used blood magic to keep Connor docile, probably on the order of Bann Teagan.

Jowan says something to this effect when you opt to go to the circle but there's not much explanation on it and honestly I find it to be a flimsy explanation. They really should have had it set so the demon goes on another rampage while you're off getting mages, would have made it much more believable to me. 

[Addai]

hornacek wrote...

Ok, I will probably try one of the other options to deal with Connor next time. But a good note for future games - do the Circle quest before the Redcliffe quest.

Well like you said, variety is good.  I generally do Broken Circle early for the attribute bonuses (yay Skip the Fade mod!), but I also think that the Isolde sacrifice is a good way to resolve Redcliffe if your PC is not a strict Chantry type.

[Axekix]

Riot Inducer wrote...

BigBad wrote...

I generally choose to believe that Jowan used blood magic to keep Connor docile, probably on the order of Bann Teagan.

Jowan says something to this effect when you opt to go to the circle but there's not much explanation on it and honestly I find it to be a flimsy explanation. They really should have had it set so the demon goes on another rampage while you're off getting mages, would have made it much more believable to me. 

Yeah, I agree.  I feel like there should be consequences for taking the Circle of Magi option.  As it is, it's kind of immersion breaking.

[Emerald Melios]

Axekix wrote...

Riot Inducer wrote...

BigBad wrote...

I generally choose to believe that Jowan used blood magic to keep Connor docile, probably on the order of Bann Teagan.

Jowan says something to this effect when you opt to go to the circle but there's not much explanation on it and honestly I find it to be a flimsy explanation. They really should have had it set so the demon goes on another rampage while you're off getting mages, would have made it much more believable to me. 

Yeah, I agree.  I feel like there should be consequences for taking the Circle of Magi option.  As it is, it's kind of immersion breaking.

Yeah, trying to save that harpy Isolde should have dire consequences, whether it means Connor dies or something worse when you run off to the Circle Tower.

[Carmen_Willow]

Emerald Melios wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Riot Inducer wrote...

BigBad wrote...

I generally choose to believe that Jowan used blood magic to keep Connor docile, probably on the order of Bann Teagan.

Jowan says something to this effect when you opt to go to the circle but there's not much explanation on it and honestly I find it to be a flimsy explanation. They really should have had it set so the demon goes on another rampage while you're off getting mages, would have made it much more believable to me. 

Yeah, I agree.  I feel like there should be consequences for taking the Circle of Magi option.  As it is, it's kind of immersion breaking.

Yeah, trying to save that harpy Isolde should have dire consequences, whether it means Connor dies or something worse when you run off to the Circle Tower.

I always figured that if Jowan knew how to poison someone, he probably had the skills to sedate Conor.  Since demons know about blood magic, and little old fashioned mickey-finn slipped in his food or drink would hav been my choice.

[LadyDamodred]

For RP purposes, it sometimes makes complete sense to go to Redcliffe first, especially with a HN. I RP it that between the two of them, Morrigan and Jowan can keep Connor "contained" until we get back.



*looks at a map* And for RP purposes, pretty damn sure that trip is longer than a day. *grumbles about inconsistancies*

[maxernst]

LadyDamodred wrote...

For RP purposes, it sometimes makes complete sense to go to Redcliffe first, especially with a HN. I RP it that between the two of them, Morrigan and Jowan can keep Connor "contained" until we get back.

*looks at a map* And for RP purposes, pretty damn sure that trip is longer than a day. *grumbles about inconsistancies*

Yes, leaving a couple party members behind to keep things under control in Redcliffe was what I would really want to do in that situation.  If you're only taking four people to the Circle anyway, you might as
well have the others doing something useful.    I ranted on the site about the agony of that particular decision, not knowing if you were dooming Redcliffe in your absence.  It would be fun if you had a segment (maybe a DLC? ) where the other party members have to deal with the demon while you were away, sort of like how the characters you leave behind in the end gme help to defend the gates. 

I found Redcliffe painfully difficult as the first major quest--but that was my first time through the game.

[ColaQueen]

I do Redcliffe before the circle and then back again, this time I am thinking I will do the circle first to get the fade over with early as possible.

[thesuperdarkone]

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