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[squigian]

 I was just pondering something; if you sell Legion to Cerberus, they never tell you about the Heretic Station.  Thus the virus is never destroyed and the Heretics succeed in rewriting the Geth Collective.  Considering we only faced 5% of the Geth fleet in ME1, and that practically destroyed the Citadel Defense Fleet, this does not bode well.  I have not sold them in any of my 'canon' playthroughs but was curious as to how an adequate fleet might be formed to combat such a large threat.

[Galimor_001]

squigian wrote...

 I was just pondering something; if you sell Legion to Cerberus, they never tell you about the Heretic Station.  Thus the virus is never destroyed and the Heretics succeed in rewriting the Geth Collective.  Considering we only faced 5% of the Geth fleet in ME1, and that practically destroyed the Citadel Defense Fleet, this does not bode well.  I have not sold them in any of my 'canon' playthroughs but was curious as to how an adequate fleet might be formed to combat such a large threat.

I just KNEW that would have to come back to bite you in the ass!

Modifié par Galimor_001, 15 mai 2010 - 11:23 .

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

never thought of that. ouch.

[Spartas Husky]

See, now your glad your a good goodie to-shoes.



besides....who the hell woudl sell legion, is such a moment to talk a geth.



Besides your rich already why do you need extra money.

[Galimor_001]

Spartas Husky wrote...

See, now your glad your a good goodie to-shoes.

besides....who the hell woudl sell legion, is such a moment to talk a geth.

Besides your rich already why do you need extra money.

Trust me, sometimes you need extra money. I always have trubble getting enough money on my playtroughs.

[smecky-kitteh]

Galimor_001 wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

See, now your glad your a good goodie to-shoes.

besides....who the hell woudl sell legion, is such a moment to talk a geth.

Besides your rich already why do you need extra money.

Trust me, sometimes you need extra money. I always have trubble getting enough money on my playtroughs.

is 2000 credits really worth a squad member and loyalty mission for more renegade points?

plus you can collect a lot of credits by gathering recourses on legions loyalty mission.

[Galimor_001]

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is 2000 credits really worth a squad member and loyalty mission for more renegade points?

plus you can collect a lot of credits by gathering recourses on legions loyalty mission.
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Is 2000 credits supposed to be a "substantial reward"? Words fail me...

Modifié par Galimor_001, 16 mai 2010 - 01:47 .

[smecky-kitteh]

[quote]Galimor_001 wrote...

[quote]smecky-kitteh wrote...
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is 2000 credits really worth a squad member and loyalty mission for more renegade points?

plus you can collect a lot of credits by gathering recourses on legions loyalty mission.
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Is 2000 credits supposed to be a "substantial reward"? Words fail me...
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I think thats the amount you get for giving him to curberus. that and like 20 renegade points.

[askanec]

2,000 credits is quite a substantial sum.



Those silly free-lancing mercs in Garrus recruitment mission are lining up to take part in a suicidal mission for just 500 credits.

[Privateerkev]

You get 15 renegade points for selling Legion (plus 5 for completing Reaper IFF). But if you keep him you get:

5 for simply completing Reaper IFF

9 separate renegade conversation options on the Normandy with Legion for 2 renegade points each.

5 separate renegade conservation options during House Divided for 2 renegade points each.

The whopping 30 point renegade choice where you get to kill the heretics in House Divided.

So, you can sell Legion for 20 renegade points. Or keep him and rack up 63 renegade points...

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People keep talking about 20 points for selling Legion. I see why now. You get 5 renegade points no matter what you do. But only 15 come from actually selling him...

Modifié par Privateerkev, 16 mai 2010 - 02:40 .

[Xenon]

According to the Mass Effect wiki, selling Legion to Cerberus nets 50000 credits and 20 renegade points.

I still think it's way better to keep him, destroy the heretics and then get Legion killed on the Suicide Mission, that is if you really don't want him.

[Privateerkev]

Xenon wrote...

According to the Mass Effect wiki, selling Legion to Cerberus nets 50000 credits and 20 renegade points.
I still think it's way better to keep him, destroy the heretics and then get Legion killed on the Suicide Mission, that is if you really don't want him.

From the wiki:

• Reaper IFF

Examine Dragon's teeth if Jacob, Garrus or Tali is present

• 2 Paragon
  for saying "They don't deserve this."
• 2 Renegade
  for saying "Nobody touch anything."

Debrief on Normandy

• 5 Paragon
  for completing the mission.

plus

• 5 Renegade
  for completing the mission.

plus

• 15 Paragon
  for saying "I want to talk to it first."
• 15 Renegade
  for saying "Cerberus gets the geth."

Later – Taking the shuttle before the Collectors attack Normandy

• 2 Paragon
  for saying "You thought of everything."
• 2 Renegade
  for saying "Let's move!"

(Have never sold Legion personally so this is what I go by...)

[Ooga600]

WE HAVE REACHED CONSENSUS. DECIMATE SHEPARD-COMMANDER. BURN EARTH TO ASHES.

Modifié par Ooga600, 16 mai 2010 - 05:11 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

You would have to be a moron to sell legion. I mean seriously, i would try it just once to experiment how bad the impact would be, but to do that on your first playthrough is idiotic.

[Inquisitor Recon]

I highly doubt all of the heretics killed in ME1 were only 5% of the geth. Codex isn't always right anyway.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 16 mai 2010 - 05:41 .

[Combine08]

I think the choice isn't about "rewards" of credits or paragon / renegade points, and many players do the "mistake" (imo) to look after the direct rewards only (credits or "karma").



The decision to keep and help the Geth or to sell it will effect things in ME3, that's clear. You gotta ask yourself...keep the Geth to learn more about them, and to fight with it or sell it to Cerberus who'll study it for their own benefits.



Cerberus will probably activate the Geth and the two sides will communicate with each other. They might end up "working together" because Shepard is part of Cerberus n' stuff or the Geth (Legion) will be hostile because they want to run tests on it, etc. It's not clear what will happen, if it's a friendly cooperation then Cerberus might even deal with the Virus on the station.



Whatever happens (unless they screw up and the Geth somehow screws with the Cell working on it...Cerberus cells tend to fail), it'll make Cerberus stronger in the end due to the tech. It could be possible that they might end up producing masses of "loyal" Geth troops, making Cerberus as a whole more powerful. I still think it's a bad decision, and not due to the fact that Cerberus will be stronger.



Without Legion you can't learn about the Geth, you won't help with the Virus...you basically lose the chance to get Geth (heh..."get Geth") as allies. You could argue that Cerberus can provide troops too if they are successful until the Reapers show up, but those Cerberus Geth would be working in their own isolated "collective" if they would have that at all. That would make them less effective than the original Geth, especially because numbers would be limited. As if Cerberus could mass-produce Geth. Giving the Geth to Cerberus is rather something that can assure long-term dominance in the end.



So yeah, I rather keep Legion. It's good to have the Geth on my side a 100%. Imagine the damage the Geth could do if they'd fight the Reapers. If roughly 5 % could do so much damage, how much damage can 95 % of them do?



The Geth are the strongest "species" in the Milky Way in terms of military power and the best ally in the fight against the Reapers. But I'll sell Legion in at least one alternative playthrough to see what will be different.

[FourSixEight]

Acquiring Legion for your team is an incredibly good decision to make if only that no matter what you do in the Heretic Station mission, you'll have at least 95% of the True Geth to help you fight the Reapers.

[Sajuro]

askanec wrote...

2,000 credits is quite a substantial sum.

Those silly free-lancing mercs in Garrus recruitment mission are lining up to take part in a suicidal mission for just 500 credits.

I thought they were lining up because of the abject poverty pervaiding Omega.

[CroGamer002]

Giving Legion to Cerberus is one of the most stupidest choices ever.
But I do wish to see how it will impact in ME3 though.

Modifié par Mesina2, 11 juillet 2010 - 05:28 .

[mosor]

Mesina2 wrote...

Giving Legion to Cerberus is one of the most stupidest choices ever.
But I do wish to see how it will impact in ME3 though.

Why? If you leave david archer with cerberus in overlord, giving legion to cerberus might be the necessary ingredient for cerberus to control all the geth, indoctrinated or not. That can be an excellent outcome for a pro-cerberus renegade.

[TheAzureVanguard]

My renegade female Shepard will be selling him....I like Legion so it will be hard but I'm curious to see if there will be any impact from not destroying the heretic base.



As Legion points out on his loyalty mission the heretics have grown significantly different while apart from the main Geth faction. And the virus they were planning on releasing could make all the Geth hostile towards organics.

[JedTed]

I did this on my renegade playthrough just cause i wanna see how it effects ME3. Maybe if you give Legion to Cerberus you'll recieve a special tech upgrade that you won't get otherwise.