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[Merlin 47]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Merlin 47 wrote...

Sorry, but I just didn't feel it was "build up" as you saw it.  To me, it was just...."there".  And by annoying, no, I meant her personality. 

I know what you meant. What I said was that there is no reason for you to get annoyed at her if you don't like her because you don't have to talk to her.

And it is build-up. That's not really something you can just "disagree" with. You can argue that you didn't find the build-up appealing, but you can't say it isn't build-up.

Going from flirting to dating to sex is romantic build-up. That's just a fact.

Agree to disagree on Kelly then.

[KitsuneRommel]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Everybody elses has been covered pretty well so i will just talk about Jack.

My favourite but far too quick and easy, a few more conversations would have improved things immensely and mad it feel less like a swith had just been flipped in her brain.

Way way to easy to just "fix" her.

That's what rubbed me the wrong way too. Let's just say that I have REALLY personal knowledge about girls with childhood (or teenage) traumas and mental illnesses. I'm willing to let that pass in the name of artistic license though.

[owen_shepard]

SuperMedbh wrote...

Hmmm...probably the wrong forum for this, as we can't go into non-spoiler details. Once I got over the non-human thing (it's just a game, after all), I found Garrus and Thane to be the best. Garrus is your buddy you suddenly realize is cute, and Thane has depths to his personality that come out as things develop. On the other hand, Kaiden always was the "boy next door", who you go out with because he's a) nice and there.

Jacob gets a lot of flack, but really, it's more Shep's dialogue than Jacob. He does seem a bit standoffish at first, but that's the rank thing. I was disappointed, as he comes off as pretty sexy when you first meet him (my opinion, I realize I'm in the minority here). It's only when you get to the "I just want to taaaaalk a little" that things go south.

For BoyShep, I know there's a lot of Tali hatred (and love), but she struck me as realistic. I had to wonder why she didn't have those suit add ons the Quarian in the Dark Star lounge mentioned. Maybe she's not that kind of girl. But I liked the Jack romance best-- out of all the LIs, she seems to change the most throughout the relationship. After playing through that, I always felt badly that BFFs apparently couldn't get through to her as much as a LI could.

i agree with you, jack connfesses and really changes when you pick her as a li, your relationship goes far past a regular li like miranda, tali, samara etc

[owen_shepard]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

They're all pretty terrible in ME2, with the exception of Kelly.

Tali's is completely forced and out of character, doubly so when you're importing a renegade Shep from ME1 who treated her like crap and didn't give her the data. And don't even get me started on the immune system and biology differences... This romance is tacked on fan-service through and through.

Miranda is kinda skanky. There's no real emotion there.

Jack's is actually pretty good in the paragon path. It loses points for being male-exclusive, though. It's pretty dumb how a female Shepard can't have an impact in Jack's life; I don't even care about the sex or a relationship.

Thane's is okay for a while. The dead wife and rogue son thing isn't very cool, and his crying and punching the table really took me by surprise, and not in a good way.

Jacob is horrendous. All he does is pressure you to keep things light and act like a sleaze. It's fun to watch how mad he gets when you break up with him, though. XD

Garrus is just gross, and extremely implausible. Slightly less implausible than Tali, but at least Tali is somewhat humanoid and not a gigantic cricket (as best we can tell).

Kelly is where it's at. She's sweet, warm, and there is consistent romantic build-up throughout the game. All the other characters just kind of throw the romance at you in one conversation out of the blue, but with Kelly it's nice and consistent and lasts the entire game.

i dont agree all tyat much with the kelly thing, i would if she didn't come to your quarters in a stripper outfit and lap dance you, it should be a regular romance like everyone else, then after that you can sit on your couch or lie down with them

[Busomjack]

I think the problem with all of the scrog scenes was that there was not enough skin.

Miranda was a complete tease, giving us a glimpse of her lacy lingerie but then the scene ended...LAME!

Tali is ugly so I wouldn't want to see her naked anyways, no big deal.

Jacob had amazing abs and pecs!

Thane was kind of emo but that kiss was long and passionate. I thought it was funny how the camera zoomed in on the bed as if we needed further indication of where things were going.

Scrogging Jack below the deck was pretty hot even though she is kind of ugly. Scrogging her in Shepard's cabin on the other hand was terrible. They just made out for a bit and then snuggled...WHAT THE HELL!?

Haven't seen Garrus yet...don't know if I want to.

Modifié par Busomjack, 16 mai 2010 - 11:30 .

[Ashton808]

Miranda: She is a **** in the begining but turns into a friend and gets even closer to shepard showing romantic feelings for him. Shes a sweetheart.



Jack: Hateful at first but she can is calm sometimes. Do not perfer her though.



Tali: Tali is like a a school girl. She has a crush on the big handsome man. She is cute, but I didn't romance her, and I do not regret.



Garrus: BEST romance in the game. He is to good to even say something about him but that he is, IMPRESSIVE.



Thane: Badass and sweet makes him a favorite



Jacob: Thinks of me as his *****.

[SithLordExarKun]

The romances in both games weren't THAT good in my honest opinion. I preferred all the romances in DAO honestly.

[DarthCaine]

ME2's romances were faaar better than ME1's (IMO ME1's were the worst romances in a BioWare game)

Jack - My favorite romance. The paragon romance is very emotional.

Miranda - My second favorite romance. Her loyalty mission is my favorite LM

Tali - Tali's romance is well writen (much better than any ME1 romance), but she feels like your little cousin that has a crush on you. Plus I don't like nerdy girls that might look like a zombie behind the mask

Liara - IMO ME1's squad mates were the most boring characters BioWare has ever made. She's pretty, but that's it. I only romanced her 'cos it fits more with Redemption

Ashley - I like her better than Liara, but she's still boring

In my canon game I romanced Liara in ME1 (not romancing someone is like missing out on content), then went with Jack in ME2 and I'll stick with Jack

DAO's romances are better written, but the approval system ruins everything since I can do all dialogue options in one dialogue (thus getting my approval +50) and never talk to my LI again (I slept with Morrigan before going to Lothering and never spoke to her again except during her quest) and that ruins any kind of progression (Leliana fell in love with me in less than an hour after I spammed her with gifts). ME's romances were more gradual for me

Modifié par DarthCaine, 17 mai 2010 - 12:41 .

[The RPGenius]

To be fair, AwesomeName, in the case of Liara, you do have to consider the context. Liara has been focused on her own life for the past 2 years, and Shepard's just dropped in out of the blue, focused on his/her next mission--he/she's only there because of his/her job, not for Liara, and after 2 years away from Shepard and only having him/her drop in for work purposes even though Shepard's been operating long enough by that point that he/she could have conceivably visited Liara for personal reasons by now, Liara probably has no real idea how to approach Shepard--not to mention that she herself has changed a lot in how she looks at and deals with the world. She's not the same naive, compassionate, warm person that she was, at least not entirely, and that was the woman that Shepard knew and loved. As for Shepard, he/she has heard that Liara has established a new life in the past couple years, that she has a strong place where she is, and when Shepard walks in, Liara's in the middle of being intimidating in a way that the Liara that Shepard knew would never have been. Shepard has no way of knowing if Liara would even still care about him/her, doesn't know if Liara has moved on to someone else, and sees Liara being very different. In short, neither one of them can really be expected to know how to react to the other--it only makes sense that it would be awkward and too strongly forced, really.

[Busomjack]

I too hated the the love interests in Mass Effect 1. I hated how when you scrogged Liara there was this pink mist all over the room. What in the Hell was that? Also, what was she doing with those black eyes? Mind scrog? So if Asari can mind scrog why was she naked too? Simultaneous mind scrog and traditional scrog? Maybe I'm looking too deeply into this.
As for Ashley, her poetry was so lame. Plus she was talking trash about my buddies Garrus and Wrex so I had her die in a nuclear fire.
Unfortunately that meant I had to deal with some rather awkward moments with Kaiden including grabbing his butt while I carried him on my shoulders and having him tell me on Horizon about how losing me was like losing a limb.
Felt very gay.

Modifié par Busomjack, 17 mai 2010 - 01:20 .

[SithLordExarKun]

DarthCaine wrote...

ME2's romances were faaar better than ME1's (IMO ME1's were the worst romances in a BioWare game)

Jack - My favorite romance. The paragon romance is very emotional.

Miranda - My second favorite romance. Her loyalty mission is my favorite LM

Tali - Tali's romance is well writen (much better than any ME1 romance), but she feels like your little cousin that has a crush on you. Plus I don't like nerdy girls that might look like a zombie behind the mask

Liara - IMO ME1's squad mates were the most boring characters BioWare has ever made. She's pretty, but that's it. I only romanced her 'cos it fits more with Redemption

Ashley - I like her better than Liara, but she's still boring

In my canon game I romanced Liara in ME1 (not romancing someone is like missing out on content), then went with Jack in ME2 and I'll stick with Jack

DAO's romances are better written, but the approval system ruins everything since I can do all dialogue options in one dialogue (thus getting my approval +50) and never talk to my LI again (I slept with Morrigan before going to Lothering and never spoke to her again except during her quest) and that ruins any kind of progression (Leliana fell in love with me in less than an hour after I spammed her with gifts). ME's romances were more gradual for me

How on earth did you penetrate morrian before lothering? You don't even get into the camp until after lothering...

[mosor]

SithLordExarKun wrote...


How on earth did you penetrate morrian before lothering? You don't even get into the camp until after lothering...

You can get into camp before lothering. Just set up camp after Flemeth. There just wont be any dwarf merchant.

[Darc_Requiem]

Overall I think Femshep really got screwed.outide of Garrus for hilarities sake. I think all three John Shep romances were better.



Tali's, if you were paragon in ME1, makes perfect sense. You rode in on your white horse and saved her from Fist's thugs, gave her Geth data for her pilgrimage, and was the reason Sovereign's Geth fleet was defeated.



Miranda's romance reminded me a bit of Ashley's. Miranda is a strong woman that doesn't necessarily agree with the way Shepard does things. She comes off as a cold hearted **** like Wilson states in his logs on the Lazarus station. You slowly "defrost" her over time until she finally shows some real emotion when you save her sister.



Jack's romance is a bit cliched but I still liked it. Which surprised me given my aversion to tattooed women that curse like a sailor. She fights you tooth and nail. Tries her best to scare you off and finally comes to your room crying with mascara running down her face. I always had a hard time saying no to a crying woman.



Ashley is a divisive character. I liked her overall. She's very opinionated so that's not surprising. Still she's actually more open minded that she lets on and given her family history, I could understand why she felt the way she did. It seemed liked you had to work harder to get with Ashley and I actually liked that.



Liara never struck the cord with me that she did with others. I like smart women and she's cute enough be just seems to eager to jump your bones. Frankly, she gave me a stalker vibe. It seems no matter what you say, she wants you anyway. After finding out what she did for you after the Alcera incident, I did gain more of an appreciation for her though.

[DarthCaine]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

How on earth did you penetrate morrian before lothering? You don't even get into the camp until after lothering...

Well, actually you CAN go to camp right after the hut

[Sand King]

DarthCaine wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

How on earth did you penetrate morrian before lothering? You don't even get into the camp until after lothering...

Well, actually you CAN go to camp right after the hut

really? 

[DarthCaine]

Sand King wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

How on earth did you penetrate morrian before lothering? You don't even get into the camp until after lothering...

Well, actually you CAN go to camp right after the hut

really? 

Just click the camp icon o the map instead of going to Lothering

Modifié par DarthCaine, 17 mai 2010 - 07:00 .

[kraze07]

Something that really pissed me off in the first game happened again last night. On my last playthrough of ME1 I was trying to romance Liara. I almost completely avoided Ashley for the whole game while trying to have as many consersations with Liara but Ashley ended up being the LI for that wasted playthrough. The same thing happened this time around for ME2. I was going for Jack and I did *smash* early in the game, but Miranda showed up at that moment (trying to avoid spoilers). Both characters were loyal mind you. Across ME1 and ME2 I've been through about 9 playthroughs, but these two times just felt wasted. I hope they put more work into the romance for ME3.

[Sand King]

kraze07 wrote...

Something that really pissed me off in the first game happened again last night. On my last playthrough of ME1 I was trying to romance Liara. I almost completely avoided Ashley for the whole game while trying to have as many consersations with Liara but Ashley ended up being the LI for that wasted playthrough. The same thing happened this time around for ME2. I was going for Jack and I did *smash* early in the game, but Miranda showed up at that moment (trying to avoid spoilers). Both characters were loyal mind you. Across ME1 and ME2 I've been through about 9 playthroughs, but these two times just felt wasted. I hope they put more work into the romance for ME3.

Take Ash for a picnic on Virmire and take Jack’s side in the fight.

[kraze07]

Sand King wrote...

kraze07 wrote...

Something that really pissed me off in the first game happened again last night. On my last playthrough of ME1 I was trying to romance Liara. I almost completely avoided Ashley for the whole game while trying to have as many consersations with Liara but Ashley ended up being the LI for that wasted playthrough. The same thing happened this time around for ME2. I was going for Jack and I did *smash* early in the game, but Miranda showed up at that moment (trying to avoid spoilers). Both characters were loyal mind you. Across ME1 and ME2 I've been through about 9 playthroughs, but these two times just felt wasted. I hope they put more work into the romance for ME3.

Take Ash for a picnic on Virmire and take Jack’s side in the fight.

I should've chose Jack's side in the fight but instead I chose the renegade option. I should've chose Kaidan for that mission on Virmire, but I don't like him or Ashley so I just picked the lesser of two evils I guess.

[Barquiel]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

The romances in both games weren't THAT good in my honest opinion. I preferred all the romances in DAO honestly.

this

I think Samara's "non-romance" is the best written romance in ME2.
Morinth was...interesting^_^
Jack's romance wasn't bad
the rest: not so good

[WilliamShatner]

Ugh.