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silentassassin264 wrote...

Well for a paragon Shep, it is a nice romance option, it is just that I only had two malesheps and my paragon one romanced Tali and my renegade one romanced Jack but since Jack does not stay crazy and violent if you romance her it really did not fit my character at all.


I agree. Jack is more of a paragade LI.

Doing Jack earlier in the game and then doing Miranda in the end is more renegade as Miranda's seems like nothing but pure lust. I still haven't romanced her, but I will for my super renegade.

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TheSeventhJedi wrote...

Okay, hear me out when I say this - I liked the ME2 romances better. The scenes themselves weren't that great - and I'm still a little peeved about not seeing Tali's face - but the buildups to them were more believable. Liara's romance in ME1 had a decent buildup, but Ashley's romance kinda seemed out of nowhere. Tali's nervousness was very believable, and with Miranda I got a kind of "we've been through a lot" vibe.


The problem with ME1 was that you had to decide rather or not to pursue a LI before you barely had a chance to get to know them.

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Darkhour wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Well for a paragon Shep, it is a nice romance option, it is just that I only had two malesheps and my paragon one romanced Tali and my renegade one romanced Jack but since Jack does not stay crazy and violent if you romance her it really did not fit my character at all.


I agree. Jack is more of a paragade LI.

Doing Jack earlier in the game and then doing Miranda in the end is more renegade as Miranda's seems like nothing but pure lust. I still haven't romanced her, but I will for my super renegade.


Miranda's romance has nothing to do with lust.
Her romance is great for all shepard : paragon, paragade (my favourite) and renegade.

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Something that really pissed me off in the first game happened again last night. On my last playthrough of ME1 I was trying to romance Liara. I almost completely avoided Ashley for the whole game while trying to have as many consersations with Liara but Ashley ended up being the LI for that wasted playthrough. The same thing happened this time around for ME2. I was going for Jack and I did *smash* early in the game, but Miranda showed up at that moment (trying to avoid spoilers). Both characters were loyal mind you. Across ME1 and ME2 I've been through about 9 playthroughs, but these two times just felt wasted. I hope they put more work into the romance for ME3.


I had th opposite problem with Liara. Nothing I did seemed to scare her off. She was like a 22nd Century version of Glenn Close....

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Yannkee wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Well for a paragon Shep, it is a nice romance option, it is just that I only had two malesheps and my paragon one romanced Tali and my renegade one romanced Jack but since Jack does not stay crazy and violent if you romance her it really did not fit my character at all.


I agree. Jack is more of a paragade LI.

Doing Jack earlier in the game and then doing Miranda in the end is more renegade as Miranda's seems like nothing but pure lust. I still haven't romanced her, but I will for my super renegade.


Miranda's romance has nothing to do with lust.
Her romance is great for all shepard : paragon, paragade (my favourite) and renegade.


It has everything to do with lust. It's how Bioware designed her. Miranda is a booty call... literallyImage IPB

She wants you because your a intergalactic super hero icon and Shepard wants her because he wants a piece of dat azz. There is no substance to it. No since of any real connection or reason behind the "romance" other than get their jollies.

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I could go on about them for a while, but I'll keep it short this time. The romances are rushed and shallow imo. You're already off to bed after a few talks (seems more like a one night stand/fling than a deep relationship), romances stop after coitus by repeating the last line over & over and romances are way to easy to complete. You barely have to put any effort into them, in comparison to romances back in the days with games like Baldur's Gate 2. Those had deep backgrounds & well-developed stories to them. Mass Effect 2 on the other hand, fails drasticly by comparison in that department.

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FenixFire wrote...

I could go on about them for a while, but I'll keep it short this time. The romances are rushed and shallow imo. You're already off to bed after a few talks (seems more like a one night stand/fling than a deep relationship), romances stop after coitus by repeating the last line over & over and romances are way to easy to complete. You barely have to put any effort into them, in comparison to romances back in the days with games like Baldur's Gate 2. Those had deep backgrounds & well-developed stories to them. Mass Effect 2 on the other hand, fails drasticly by comparison in that department.


Romances are easy? The dialog = romance. You have no choice but to romance them. Otherwise, you aren't speaking to them at all.

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kraze07 wrote...

Something that really pissed me off in the first game happened again last night. On my last playthrough of ME1 I was trying to romance Liara. I almost completely avoided Ashley for the whole game while trying to have as many consersations with Liara but Ashley ended up being the LI for that wasted playthrough. The same thing happened this time around for ME2. I was going for Jack and I did *smash* early in the game, but Miranda showed up at that moment (trying to avoid spoilers). Both characters were loyal mind you. Across ME1 and ME2 I've been through about 9 playthroughs, but these two times just felt wasted. I hope they put more work into the romance for ME3.

yeah the same thing with me but vice versa, liara came to me instead and im like what tha hell, i don't want you

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Yannkee wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

Well for a paragon Shep, it is a nice romance option, it is just that I only had two malesheps and my paragon one romanced Tali and my renegade one romanced Jack but since Jack does not stay crazy and violent if you romance her it really did not fit my character at all.


I agree. Jack is more of a paragade LI.

Doing Jack earlier in the game and then doing Miranda in the end is more renegade as Miranda's seems like nothing but pure lust. I still haven't romanced her, but I will for my super renegade.


Miranda's romance has nothing to do with lust.
Her romance is great for all shepard : paragon, paragade (my favourite) and renegade.

miranda's romance was not all lust most was though, with a revized romance scene it could have been much better, cause her scene was like the intro of porn :P

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Thing I dislike about the romances the most is the fact that you can't continue them from one game to the next.

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Nozybidaj wrote...

Thing I dislike about the romances the most is the fact that you can't continue them from one game to the next.


You can't really even continue them after bedding them.

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I liked them.

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I played straight Paragon on ME1, and so I really like Tali's.



Say what you will, but I think it shows there's a whole lot more to her than just "the one who's good at tech stuff"

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TudorWolf wrote...

I played straight Paragon on ME1, and so I really like Tali's.

Say what you will, but I think it shows there's a whole lot more to her than just "the one who's good at tech stuff"

i fail to see how romancig her shows tyhere is more to her then techImage IPB

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Darkhour wrote...

FenixFire wrote...

I could go on about them for a while, but I'll keep it short this time. The romances are rushed and shallow imo. You're already off to bed after a few talks (seems more like a one night stand/fling than a deep relationship), romances stop after coitus by repeating the last line over & over and romances are way to easy to complete. You barely have to put any effort into them, in comparison to romances back in the days with games like Baldur's Gate 2. Those had deep backgrounds & well-developed stories to them. Mass Effect 2 on the other hand, fails drasticly by comparison in that department.


Romances are easy? The dialog = romance. You have no choice but to romance them. Otherwise, you aren't speaking to them at all.


Another annoying feature. Talking to people doesn't imply you immediately want to have an intimate relation with them. I like to know where my team is at, not bang em all.

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In ME1 it felt like you were actually getting to know the LI as a character rather then just eye candy. In ME2 Miranda is really dull and the whole experience feels like a fling. Jack/Tali felt like I got to know the characters and came across as better written then Miranda's.

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I played through as the canon maleShep then as a custom femShep from ME 1 and through ME 2.



On the maleShep I romanced Ashley despite initial negative reactions, figuring she'd have a cool story or something. Nope. So, especially after the treatment the writers gave her in ME 2, Shepard gives her the cold shoulder. The only problem is...who the heck can this character start a relationship with?



Bachelorette #1: Miranda. She's pretty, though dresses like a space-hooker and has an ego big enough to fill the Normandy 2's cargo bay all on it's own.



Bachelorette #2: Jack. She tries too hard to be "badass" and it comes off as trying too hard. I'm all for strong female characters, but she isn't strong, she's just the hollywood pop-culture generic image of "strong" and "misunderstood." I liked her story regardless.



Bachelorette #3: Tali. It kind of freaked me out honestly. You helped her through her pilgrimage in ME 1, and that's sort of a rite of passage, placing her comparitively to about 18 human years, I would guess. Shepard is about 30, I'm also guessing, being his/her current rank and service experience. Sure, Shepard was a marinecicle for two years, so now she's a little older. She's easily the most likable and level-headed of the three options and it's intriguing that Bioware hasn't allowed us to see her face yet. But...romance with a divergent amino acid based lifeform? That romance is destined for a room with seperate beds even if you get past the age difference.





With my femShep I debated Liara and Kaiden in ME1. I was tired of Ashley and blew her up this time around on Virmire (haha). I finally settled on Liara though since an alien love interest seemed cool to learn about asari culture and whatnot. She was kind of boring but Kaiden reminded me too much of Carth from KotOR (same voice actor), only alot cooler. I still am bothered by Liara's fake eyebrows though and the writers really seemed to flush the character down a toilet in ME 2.



Bachelor #1: Jacob. Could they of made him any more boring? Plus, as others have said, my femShep's dialogue was like she was in a bad porn movie around him. I was fully expecting a "nice boots, wanna f$&% ?" line at any moment. Jacob is a nice character but all the saluting and the sheer boredom of his personality made the romance implausible.



Bachelor#2: Thane. Thane is a fun character from an interesting race. His story is cool, and so is his loyalty mission. But femShep getting humped by a terminally ill space lizard doesn't do it for me.



Bachelor#3: Garrus. His personality is cool and would fit most closely with femShep's in a relationship, I feel. However...he's Turian, different amino acid makeup combined with what another poster mentioned of him looking like a giant cricket were both unsettling.





Summary: I didn't romance any of the ME 2 options with either my maleSheps or femSheps! I did make a maleShep infiltrator that wasn't an import from ME 1 and had him initiate the romance with Tali...but it just felt awkward still. In short, I thought the best chemistry for maleShep or femShep is with Kelly. Otherwise my Shepards just spent time watching their fish or the space hampster on it's wheel while wondering who replaced regular Liara with bizzaro-Liara.

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

That romance is destined for a room with seperate beds even if you get past the age difference.


And Liara is, what? 100+ years old and they live up to 1000 years. I'd say it's a lot worse getting older and older while your partner looks like she did when you first met. Besides I don't think you can really use human age and biology when considering alien maturity.

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I can't really say, because I did not see any romance in both ME's. My female Shepard is military leader, leading war agaist reapers. If some of my squad members would try romance with me, I would shoot his brains out and toss him out of air lock.  So, the rest of crew would know what real goal is.

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I think the renegade/paragon has nothing to do with romance options.





If it did matter. Jack is the renegade, since she has sex with you in an agressive way. Either way both Jack and Miranda are mean in the (Miranda for a short period of time) But then they turn out nice if you romance them. Jack really doesn't change much though.

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At first, I was not as happy with my femShep LI options (I'm okay with maleShep's, however), though I realize this may be a product of simply being picky in real life (sigh). I love Garrus, but it was still very awkward. Thane is sexy...if you can get over the...scales. I think Jacob speaks for himself, though I'm warming up to him. And I couldn't care less for Kelly (if you count her as a romance). Though I'm more indifferent now, it was never a huge deal for me. Mostly because it still feels unprofessional to romance your subordinates. (It was especially difficult to overcome this obstacle in ME1.) In any case, there are a couple of potential romance options for which I'm hoping in ME3: Zaeed and Samara. Perhaps not the most popular of potential LIs, but I find these two characters to be extremely fascinating. For both characters, I did not care for their looks initially. Zaeed was just 'old and scarred' to me. But, after getting acquainted with him, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be excited if he was to be a romance option in ME3.

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eternalnightmare13 wrote...

In ME1 it felt like you were actually getting to know the LI as a character rather then just eye candy. In ME2 Miranda is really dull and the whole experience feels like a fling. Jack/Tali felt like I got to know the characters and came across as better written then Miranda's.


I wish you could have non-romantic conclusions. Especially Jack. I might not want to bed her, but that doesn't mean I would mind her coming up to the captain's cabin and having a shoulder to cry on. I understand that they don't have intercourse, but it's still sexual and ends in them being an item (and I assume actual intercourse in the future). She seems like she should be a ME3 LI if you got her to open up in ME2. In Mass Effect 2 she's just not at a point where I think I normal person would want her in a serious emotional way.

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Of all the romances i experienced i can say that the one with Miranda was the best, but i watched i video showing the romance with Jack and Thane and i saw how dramatic they are. Next playthrough, i will romance Jack.

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I think that i'm interested in seeing where they go in me3.  I'm also wondering what happens if you have the liara/ashley conflict in 1, pick ashley, then hook up with miranda, if whatever conflict is destined for 3 builts upon this happening for a "second time".  I'm also interested if it carries anything for people that break up with someone or if they get with multiple partners.

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