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[Cypher0020]

Seeing as dwarf love got popular... why not talk about the awesome city elves! One of the few origins that I think has a happy ending or the closest one can get :innocent:


- Did your CEF want to get married?

- Did you become the Bann or give the title to Shianni?

- How did you RP your CEF?

- Do you prefer the MCE or the FCE??

- What's your class?

- Post your pics/profiles of your CEs!

- who did your CE romance??

[KnightofPhoenix]

You are actually comparing the elves, no wait, city elves, aka the symbol of submission and defeat, with THE DWARVES?? Haha

Joking btw, I haven't tried this origin yet. To be honest, I am not enthusiastic about playing elves (unless it's magi).

[Rhys Cordelle]

Yeah that's where this game frustrates me. I think you should be able to do the city elf or dalish elf origins as a mage. Elves just aren't as good as humans for warriors, and they aren't as good as dwarves for rogues.



That said, I have started a city elf character, but haven't seen the end game with one yet.

[Sarah1281]

CE is a pretty kickass origin since they slaughter their way through what's later Howe's estate and even more so for the females but elves < dwarves on the badass scale. It's just a fact.

[tmp7704]

Sarah1281 wrote...

but elves < dwarves on the badass scale. It's just a fact.

Oh sure, that's why the dwarves wax lyrical about the wicked style of the only one elf they get to actually see fight the darkspawn underground (the topsider)

I kid though. The very fact DA elves are not better is the main thing which makes them playable for me. The city folks that is. The Dalish are kinda meh.

[Cypher0020]

yes I'm a fan of the female city elf origin.... and yeah...dwarves are better I suppose



gaaah... I think I wanna remake my DN a rogue... again!



-runs to class builder-

[Befit]

City Elf is my absolute favorite origin story! and i've tried them all! mine was a MCE, who was a total rogue and stole everything not bolted down lol. but he had a good heart and always willing to help. He didn't look forward to being wed until he saw the bride to be. He misses his family constantly since becoming a warden but tries to do them proud. He had a fling with leliana before giving all his heart to Morrigan, only girl to ever seduce him for a change. He did the ritual and now searches high and low for his Witch of the wilds.

[Sarah1281]

That's another thing I don't like about the Origin. You can be all 'ew, I don't want to marry some random guy...wow, he's hot. I look forward to marital bliss!' Tell me, how can you RP that as not incredibly shallow?

[Befit]

My character is incredebly shallow lol. He dosn't think long term. Not every character has to be a pillar of chivalry, sometimes your character can be human . . . or elf in this case. I plan to mature my character over time. At 19 years of age he was nothing more than a street Hoodlam with a knack for picking locks and picking up girls. but the blight, the companions, and most of all morrigan forces him to mature quickly.

[Rhys Cordelle]

I have to admit, how much I like an origin seems to depend on how I roleplay the character. My first time through as a male city elf I played it as someone who didn't want to get married, and would do anything to get out of the alienage. Played that way, there was little emotion behind what was going on, and when I got to Ostagar I felt like I was just playing as a generic character.



But my second attempt at it was a character who was ready to get married, and excited about it. He's very loyal to his family, so he did his best to rescue Shianni and his future wife. He didn't want to fight Vaughan but Vaughan wouldn't relent on the condition that the woman had to stay with him for the night. So it was a reluctant elf that had to say goodbye to his family and his future with a wife to join the Grey Wardens. To me, this was a much more interesting experience, and makes me look forward to the return to the alienage.

[Sarah1281]

I guess I just have a thing for the underdog. ^^

Is the lot of the CE really worse than the DC, though?

[Rhys Cordelle]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I guess I just have a thing for the underdog. ^^

Is the lot of the CE really worse than the DC, though?

Hmm. Well as a DC your sister is forced to be a ****, but I think Bhelen cares for her, so her lot is probably not as bad as what Shianni goes through. The elven father is definitely in better shape than the dwarven mother. I'd say up until the point where the story kicks off, the elf has probably had a much better life, with a large family that cares about him, even if they are just as poor as the dusters.

[tmp7704]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Is the lot of the CE really worse than the DC, though?

Considering most of the game takes place on the surface, probably yes. Both humans and elves appear to have very vague idea of dwarf social system and so any dwarf who makes it to the surface is treated with certain dose of respect.

It was actually amusing aspect to visit in Orzammar as city elf -- it's about the only place where you get to hear people openly admire your appearance and whatnot rather than **** on you for being an elf. It's a huge contrast to the experience you get on the surface, and i suppose it's sort of reversed for the casteless. For them the surface must be quite exhilarating on the whole.

[Sarah1281]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I guess I just have a thing for the underdog. ^^

Is the lot of the CE really worse than the DC, though?

Hmm. Well as a DC your sister is forced to be a ****, but I think Bhelen cares for her, so her lot is probably not as bad as what Shianni goes through. The elven father is definitely in better shape than the dwarven mother. I'd say up until the point where the story kicks off, the elf has probably had a much better life, with a large family that cares about him, even if they are just as poor as the dusters.

When you show up to kill Beraht and he's talking about letting his guards rape Rica, he says he's 'tasted' her before and she's sweet as a peach. If you're a girl you really get an idea of how you avoided being a noble hunter. Bhelen may or may not care for her but she still won't get to see her son as often as she likes as she's only a casteless. And the CE is in no way as poor as the DC as CE can work as servants and DC are not allowed to have jobs (the Assembly had that bright idea awhile ago) so they can only be beggars, thieves, thugs, or ****s. Not to mention in Awakening Sigrun talks about how nice the Alienage she saw was compared to Dust Town. Seriously, I'm not sure it's possible to have a more impoverished life than a DC.

[Suron]

it's actually how elves are portrayed in DA:O that has me interested in them and I actually finished the game with a CE female.



typically I'm not a fan of elves and just don't get the draw they have for most...and I'm sick and tired of the "holier-then-thou" way they're typically cast...sticks up their asses.



in DA:O's world they're, imo, put in their place..and that's what makes them interesting to a person like myself that typically never plays elves. I also find the whole fallen-people story much more appealing and intersting then the "we're the first children, we love the world, we're immortal, everyone else sucks compared to us flawless tree-****ers"

[Rhys Cordelle]

Good point Sarah.

[Sarah1281]

dream_operator23 wrote...

Does anyone else get the idea from Dragon Age that elves and dwarves are races in decline and human race is the one that is coming into it's own? I always find it sad when the Dalish talk about having a homeland again, because it seems to me that the elvish race will die out before that ever happens (and I am not talking about the little piece of land they are given at the end of DA, I'm talking about something like Arlathan).

Oh, definitely. A few centuries or millenia into the future it will just be human an that's depressing.

[tmp7704]

dream_operator23 wrote...

Does anyone else get the idea from Dragon Age that elves and dwarves are races in decline and human race is the one that is coming into it's own?

I think for the dwarves it's not as much natural decline but rather war exhaustion from pretty much permanent fighting the darkspawn. They're simply running out of people and territory. Once they're gone, humans would have to endure the same burden and honestly i don't see them doing any better than dwarves did or for that matter even just as good.

[Merilsell]

Oddly enough, I love playing elves in DA but I never got into the hype about the city elves in general. I mean the origin itself is pretty hard stuff, especially when playing a female but I never played one past Ostagar. I suppose I'm rather out in the woods as a Dalish, sturdy and free than being a servant and a low being to the humans.

Though right now I have one CEF I can imagine playing past that (and have already). She didn't want to get married but also didn't want to leave the Alienage, strangely enough. Yet in the end she laughed the guards in the face when leaving with Duncan And was is weird too, I kinda dislike Alistair with her and I'm not sure if she will be warming up to him still, like my Dalish had done this.

Well I'm only at Lothering now, so we'll see.

Modifié par Merilsell, 16 mai 2010 - 06:05 .

[BigBad]

A little while back, I posted a comparison of the dwarves and qunari as two sides of the same coin, one in decline and one in ascendance. You could say the same of elves and humans, now that I think of it.

Of course, one of the themes of Dragon Age is that a lot of things that were thought dead or beyond help have returned with a vengeance. The darkspawn attacked the surface after four centuries of sticking to the Deep Roads. Dragons have come back from nigh-extinction and several can be found in Ferelden alone. Even the nation of Ferelden itself, which was probably destined to be eventually absorbed back into the Orlesian Empire sooner or later, managed to overcome a civil war, remain independent, and defeat a Blight without the help of any other nations.

[phaonica]

City Elf was the first origin I played, and the first origin I beat the game with. I picked city elf because of all the origin options, city elf seemed the most unique at the time. Now I know that all the origins have something really special and unique about them.

[BigBad]

phaonica wrote...

City Elf was the first origin I played, and the first origin I beat the game with. I picked city elf because of all the origin options, city elf seemed the most unique at the time. Now I know that all the origins have something really special and unique about them.

Except the Dalish. Dalish suck.