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[nhsk]

The asari with customs problems is far to weak a point to build something on, it's merely humans acting retarded towards other races. Like the Volus/Quarian incident. Those asari probably refused to pleasure some human diplomat or C-Sec officer.



Besides that, I may have missed the obvious in some sub-codex.. But where is it stated that the rachni were actually indoctrinated by the reapers?

[SkullandBonesmember]

Personally I don't think letting the queen live is going to have a negative repercussion.

Possibly helping Liara. Yes, I know doing so gives you renegade points, but she's a friend so I consider it paragon regardless. Legion and the geth. Destroying the Collector base is a given.

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

ShadyKat wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

nhsk wrote...

You don't have the Geth if they are deadlocked in a battle against the Quarians oO

The geth would annihilate the quarians very fast like they did in the first war.

Tali said the first war was grueling and lasted several years. How is that considered fast?

Cause they pretty much lost the war with the first strike that was sent from geth. The quarians never stood an chance anyway, they were pushed back, block by block, colony by colony till they were kicked out. The quarians attempted to keep going in fultility. The geth had to pretty much push them completely out of any and all colonies and onto ships in order for the quarians to stop combating them. The quarians were desperate and had lost the war when the geth decided to do the first strike. Of course, this is speculation as to how the war went, but from what we've seen from the geth and the quarians, I highly doubt it the quarians had many wins if any against the geth.

[Ashton808]

Not shooting Conrad Verners foot.

[Nimander]

nhsk wrote...
Besides that, I may have missed the obvious in some sub-codex.. But where is it stated that the rachni were actually indoctrinated by the reapers?

It's not said in the Codex.  But in ME1, the Rachni Queen talks about a sour note from space, and in ME2 if you kept her alive, an Asari who was saved by Rachni appears and tells Shephard that when he needs them, the Rachni will help him face the enemy that corrupted the songs of her mothers or some such.

Pretty obviously talking about the Reapers.

[Arijharn]

I hope destroying the base will be a problem for paragon players, especially if some half crazed grieving mother says something like: "You could of saved them!" while shouting spittle at you and generally try to make you doubt yourself. To her she could of just meant that you could of been just 2 minutes earlier, but it could also mean you could of used the collector base...



I would love to see Balak be a decision with consequences, but I find it highly unlikely simply because he was a dlc character. It wouldn't make sense really I guess for him to just 'appear' if for example, your ME3 import wasn't also a ME2 import with this ME1 save data.

[nhsk]

Nimander wrote...

nhsk wrote...
Besides that, I may have missed the obvious in some sub-codex.. But where is it stated that the rachni were actually indoctrinated by the reapers?

It's not said in the Codex.  But in ME1, the Rachni Queen talks about a sour note from space, and in ME2 if you kept her alive, an Asari who was saved by Rachni appears and tells Shephard that when he needs them, the Rachni will help him face the enemy that corrupted the songs of her mothers or some such.

Pretty obviously talking about the Reapers.

Ah my bad, couldn't  remember the rachni queen speech from me2 on top of my head, ty

[Fiery Phoenix]

I forgot to mention NOT allowing Mrs. Bhatia's body to be researched by the Alliance...

[Homebound]

sagequeen wrote...

letting balak go. i felt like such a wimp every time i watched him walk. but the hostages, you know? just couldn't let them die.

I concur.  I had to make several playthroughs just so I could convince myself of not letting the human hostages die.  Paragon walkthrough for ME2 at the time...

[Homebound]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I forgot to mention NOT allowing Mrs. Bhatia's body to be researched by the Alliance...

I told Mr. Bhatia to eff off.  Didnt have the paragade score at the time.

[C9316]

Bringing Miranda with you to destroy the base resulting in her "resignation" from Cerberus now she has no one to protect her from her father in ME3 oh no

[Vicious]

By now, the Rachni might be the only species that collectively knows about and works against the Reapers, they even remember indoctrination and what it felt like and would most likely recognize undercover attempts at indoctrinating their queen(s), especially considering that indoctrination takes days, weeks or even months to reliably show results.

This. I don't think the Rachni decision will be bad in the least, it will actually just be one big fat payoff. Is it not fair to Renegade players? Maybe, but saving the Collector Base will offset that.

[Zulu_DFA]

This Rachni Queen messenger is real creepy. Seen it on YouTube only yesterday, 'cause I never regretted debugging the Galaxy and never was interested in what happens if you fail... But if for some reason I did spare the Queen, after Illium I would definitely go back to ME1 and corrected that.

[RiouHotaru]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

This Rachni Queen messenger is real creepy. Seen it on YouTube only yesterday, 'cause I never regretted debugging the Galaxy and never was interested in what happens if you fail... But if for some reason I did spare the Queen, after Illium I would definitely go back to ME1 and corrected that.

Creepy?  I'd say the only thing was fairly heartwarming.  They saved an Asari, and they're willing to offer you their aid i defeating your enemy.  Ally +1 earned.  How is this creepy?

[CroGamer002]

Destroying Collector base will probably bite me in the ass.

But I do know that letting Cerberus have that base will bite me in the ass.



Letting Kasumi keep greybox might bite me in the ass.

[Lyrandori]

I say it will be the re-writing of the Geth Heretics, and Joker literally says in a sarcastic way that it certainly won't bite me (Shepard) in the ass. But I have two "main" games, one with a MaleShep whose more on the Renegade side with a minimum of Paragon, and one with a FemShep whose more on the Paragon side with barely any Renegade. I chose to re-write the Heretics with my FemShep, and I will chose the other option once I get there with my MaleShep, that way I'll have at least one game to get away with it in ME3 if that choice is considered for consequences.

[LJScribes]

I'm sure it's been said, but you pretty much are turning into someone similar to Saren in ME1
if you made most of the Paragon choices.

You have cybernetic implants.
You have both Geth and Krogan buddies.
You're Allied with the Rachni.
You aided in a possible cure to the Genophage.
You have ties to Cerberus, (even if you are on their badside, the rest of the galaxy doesn't know that)
You have a super ship with an AI
You are friends with Benezia's daughter.

You seem to fit the description of a Renegade Spectre, basically making taboo decisions and being connected to people who are quite sketchy.

Probably the only thing you really got going for you in your defense against treason is that you Destroyed the Collector base and that you are a nice guy. However if you remember, Saren's intentions were good, though twisted.

It's likely that the moment you return to the Citadel in ME3 you'll be accused of treason and the like, and the Turian Council member will be making many finger quotes at you.

But hey at least you'll have a crap load of allies come the Reaper attack.

To me it seems like the Renegade Shepard is doing what everyone wants. (sort of)

However, in the end, his choices will bite him in the butt.

You got cybernetic implants, easier to Indoctrinate then :s.
if you sold Legion, it's possible that the Heretics infected the rest of the Geth Collective, meaning a crap load of angry Reaper worshipping, organic killing Geth.
The Quarian are going to attempt to go to war with those Geth.  (so their 50,000 ship fleet, ((largest in the Galaxy after the Geth)) will be to busy fighting that War or dying to help you with the Reapers)
You are allied with Cerberus who will most likely build a Reaper.
You didn't aid in curing the Krogan, or save the Rachni, so you are down 4 powerful allies.  (Geth, Quarian, Krogan, and Rachni)
You let the Council die in ME1, most of the Citadel races no longer trust you or humans so you won't get their full aid when the Reapers come.

Basically all you got goin for you is the Cerberus Reaper and the small group of allies still loyal to you.

Modifié par LJScribes, 14 juillet 2010 - 11:06 .

[Arhka]

Rewriting Heretics. I just saw that as wrong, but maybe I'm shortsighted.

Keeping Kasumi's graybox, might mess her up more than help her.

Letting Tali get exiled (Not a persuade option, but the counter part to giving evidence)

Modifié par Arhka, 16 juillet 2010 - 12:50 .

[NanQuan]

Nightwriter wrote...

I can't really think of any time they've ever made a paragon choice bite you in the ass. The only one that comes to mind is the decision to spare that merc in Samara's recruitment mission, the one who turned out to be a murderer.

So, with so little previous history to go on, I really couldn't say.

Same. That's the paragon choice that made me immediately go "Doh! shoulda killed the ****!"

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Mesina2 wrote...

Destroying Collector base will probably bite me in the ass.
But I do know that letting Cerberus have that base will bite me in the ass.

Letting Kasumi keep greybox might bite me in the ass.

that's kasumi's business...

but if that collector base still had live people in it, I would have biten the bullet and gave it to cerberus... 

[jklinders]

Top 3 are in chronological order, sparing the Rachni Queen, not fully addressing Tali's father's research and it falling into the crazy Admiral's hands, and blowing up the collector base. Honorable mention goes to sparing the blind idiot council.

[angj57]

Shandepared wrote...

NanQuan wrote...

Same. That's the paragon choice that made me immediately go "Doh! shoulda killed the ****!"

Why does that stand out? It's not the first time a paragon has let a murderer go free.

Most of the time they repent or turn themselves in like Sidonis though. She just tricks you and gets a free pass on murder.

[jklinders]

Shandepared wrote...

angj57 wrote...

Most of the time they repent or turn themselves in like Sidonis though. She just tricks you and gets a free pass on murder.

She was probably just afraid to admit it. Ten bucks says you see her in ME3 and she is genuinely sorry for ever getting involved in Eclipse.

Imagine if real police were as forgiving as you...

She tried to draw her gun, paragon or not she gets iced every time. She had to kill someone to get that uniform