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Dwarf Noble or Dwarf Commoner?


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thesuperdarkone

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 Seeing as there is already a topic about the natural awesomness of dwarves :wizard: I'm wondering which type of dwarf people consider to be the best: Dwarf nobles or commoners. Decide today:ph34r: I chose Dwarf noble because the dwarf noble origin seems like a better origin than the commoner one, even though the commoner one allowed me to have some evil fun:devil:, but despite that, I get rich quickly with this origin and I manage to get a dual wielding dwarf noble rogue pretty powerful in the game, which I consider to be one of my better characters, but I just started my dwarf commoner story so my opinion might change but I decide to choose the noble until  my evil commoner can exact his vengeance on the world :devil:

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P.S. My noble is called Zamrako XD and my commoner is called Henrico, and I want to say sorry for that slight wall of text.

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Can't say which is 'best', but Noble is my favorite. I like being kind of a snobby noble at first, but allowing the journey to humble my PC.

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Rhys Cordelle

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I would have to go with the Dwarf Noble because I'm a sucker for plot twists, and I love the Aeducan name. Plus, Gorim :-)

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Gilsa

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We have to CHOOSE??? =p

NOOOOOOO. PLAY THEM ALLLLLL. :lol:

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I have to go with commoner. I loved my sister and going back to Orzy is more fun. You get a happy reunion with your sister. Get to help make your sisters kid the next King and you get to kill that traitor Leske! It is all WIN!!!

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Depends on if you want to love Orzammar or hate it. It's really difficult to hate it as a DN and you get to personally know Bhelen and Harrowmont, not to mention Gorim's involvement. As a DC I just wanted everyone to go off and die somewhere far away from me and Rica's so-called 'happy ending' actually pissed me off as the life of a noble-hunter, even with a son, really sucks and she isn't ALLOWED to take her son out of the nursery, introduce him to her sibling, have any say in his upbringing...I couldn't be happy for her when it really wasn't all that great. Last-minute paragonhood is fine and all but you can't possibly see that coming and seeing Rica have to settle for concubing after everyone in Ferelden basically decided I was the Messiah...it just made me hate Orzammar more.

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My personal favorite is the Dwarf Commoner. It's a bit grittier than the Noble story, with the soul-crushing poverty and discrimination, with what you have to do just to survive. And it's extremely satisfying to rise above all that and become a hero.



Of course, the Dwarf Noble is good, too. It's kind of the 'easy mode' among origins, since you can get so much gold to start with if you play your cards right, but the story is genuinely compelling and the decisions you have to make when you return are a little less clear-cut.

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i like the commoner i like how you start out a lowly duster and end up a paragon

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Most certainly commoner for as I love zero to hero tales and also for me t I tweaked my pretty Natia face to completly satisfy me. I loved the lines said to the guard on how I was beyond his authority.

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Rhys Cordelle

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Dwarven Noble is zero to hero as well though. You're exiled and have to fight to survive.

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Gilsa wrote...

We have to CHOOSE??? =p

NOOOOOOO. PLAY THEM ALLLLLL. :lol:

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Dear Lord! These have to be the Sweetest Screen-shots I've ever seen on the Fourms. How the Heck did you manage this?
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By the by, Dwarven Commoner all the way. Underdog story from the get go. Protecting a Sister, Fighting against a corrupt system of Rule and Tradition, and the complex choices that come later with who to put on the Throne. Outstanding.
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Thanks! I just pause my game a lot (like every few seconds) while in combat and jump around on each character to see if there are any good camera shots. The top picture with Bhelen took a few tries (I'd reload a saved game over and over), but I basically had to dump all my aggro on him and pull him up the stairs to the throne so I could get a clear shot of the two of us. Otherwise all the deshyrs were crowding us out and nothing looked good. The bottom one was just lucky. I took the picture from Alistair's point of view (scrolled out and panned around) when I saw how nicely it framed the dwarf.

So ... pause a lot. Check out all the angles on all of your companions. Someone's having a good moment somewhere. Take a screenshot. Rinse, repeat. ;)

Edit: Oh, get mods that take out spell effects and ability glows in addition to removing the circles underneath the characters and the screenshots come to life.

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By the by, Dwarven Commoner all the way. Underdog story from the get go. Protecting a Sister, Fighting against a corrupt system of Rule and Tradition, and the complex choices that come later with who to put on the Throne. Outstanding.

Twenty minutes in the DN is the underdog as well and having everyone hate her for what she's done instead of just 'oh, look, facial tattoo!' is pretty bad, too. Yeah, you don't have Rica to protect (and Rica hates you because you're a noble and Bhelen said bad things about you) but the other parts of that are true for both.



In fact, I'd say the choice of who to put on the throne is even harder as a DN. For the DC there is Harrowmont who hates casteless and on the other there is the man who takes care of Rica, the father of your nephew, and the more progressive candidate. On the DN side there's your brother who caused all your problems and engineered the death of your ther brother but who is a member of your House and more progressive but on the there is a man who always liked you, who your father chose to succeed him, who saved your life by telling you about the Wardens, who allowed Gorim to say goodbye, who won't change anything, who would remove your family from the throne after nine genrations, who may let you succeed him, and who doesn't stand a chance without you.

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Gilsa wrote...

Thanks! I just pause my game a lot (like every few seconds) while in combat and jump around on each character to see if there are any good camera shots. The top picture with Bhelen took a few tries (I'd reload a saved game over and over), but I basically had to dump all my aggro on him and pull him up the stairs to the throne so I could get a clear shot of the two of us. Otherwise all the deshyrs were crowding us out and nothing looked good. The bottom one was just lucky. I took the picture from Alistair's point of view (scrolled out and panned around) when I saw how nicely it framed the dwarf.

So ... pause a lot. Check out all the angles on all of your companions. Someone's having a good moment somewhere. Take a screenshot. Rinse, repeat. ;)

Edit: Oh, get mods that take out spell effects and ability glows in addition to removing the circles underneath the characters and the screenshots come to life.


Wish I had that Luxery. Sadly, as the owner of the 360 version, I'm afraid the wonderful world of Mods is closed to me. Damn you Console Limitations...
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Does it really matter?



Dwarves are so damned awesome that it matters not whether you comes from the depths of Dust Town or the tiers of the Diamond Quarter. Only that, for pure game/RPG value, you will never go wrong playing one of the stout folk.

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Funny thing is, a lot of people have been saying they never liked elves until Dragon Age, well I'm that way with dwarves. Dragon Age made dwarves much cooler imo.





I gotta agree with Sarah, the decision about who to support should be really simple for a dwarven commoner.

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Rhys Cordelle wrote...

Funny thing is, a lot of people have been saying they never liked elves until Dragon Age, well I'm that way with dwarves. Dragon Age made dwarves much cooler imo.


I gotta agree with Sarah, the decision about who to support should be really simple for a dwarven commoner.



In many ways, I agree.

DA is t the first time I actually got very excited and attached to playing a dwarf, because of the richness that DA added to dwarves and dwarven culture.

Personally, despite my name, I've never been a great elf fan. Thanks to the DA universe, I can come out of the closet and say "Oooorah! Dwarves!!!!!!!!!"

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

Funny thing is, a lot of people have been saying they never liked elves until Dragon Age, well I'm that way with dwarves. Dragon Age made dwarves much cooler imo.


I gotta agree with Sarah, the decision about who to support should be really simple for a dwarven commoner.



In many ways, I agree.

DA is t the first time I actually got very excited and attached to playing a dwarf, because of the richness that DA added to dwarves and dwarven culture.

Personally, despite my name, I've never been a great elf fan. Thanks to the DA universe, I can come out of the closet and say "Oooorah! Dwarves!!!!!!!!!"


*does dwarf fistbump*

huzzah! I like both too, but my Brosca wins by a hair slither due to her personality. that made me sound so weird, carry on

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Is it shallow if additional points against the DC origin as my favorite is my dislike of facial tattoos and the name Brosca while I love the name Aeducan? Posted Image

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Ok.... I like both origins... but I think my heart belongs to the DC first and foremost.... there's just such a richer backstory starting from the bottom.....while being on top and falling is fun from the DN standpoint..... the DC just sold me more




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there's just such a richer backstory starting from the bottom

I strongly disagree that either is richer than the other. They are both very well done and it just depends if you want to be a Cinderella story or the vindicated exile.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Is it shallow if additional points against the DC origin as my favorite is my dislike of facial tattoos and the name Brosca while I love the name Aeducan? Posted Image

What about the tattoos that bothers you? The limited designs you pick from or the fact they even wear them at all?

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Gilsa wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Is it shallow if additional points against the DC origin as my favorite is my dislike of facial tattoos and the name Brosca while I love the name Aeducan? Posted Image

What about the tattoos that bothers you? The limited designs you pick from or the fact they even wear them at all?

I do not like tattoos at all.

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why don't u like tattos??