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[Sarah1281]

Cypher0020 wrote...

why don't u like tattos??

I don't know. I just dont. I don't really find them attractive, is all, and so I'd never want one nor do I like them on other people. It's just personal preference.

[RogueWriter3201]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Is it shallow if additional points against the DC origin as my favorite is my dislike of facial tattoos and the name Brosca while I love the name Aeducan?

What about the tattoos that bothers you? The limited designs you pick from or the fact they even wear them at all?

I do not like tattoos at all.

I must side with Sarah here. I'm not big on Ink myself. I can understand, for the Commoner Origin, that the writers needed a means of distinguishing the Casteless from everyone else, and a Face Brand is as obvious as it gets. None the less, I do wish they would have maybe put the brand somewhere else, or used a different method. Not sure what, but other indicators might have worked.

[BigBad]

Well, you aren't meant to like it. ;P

The default tat isn't so much a tattoo as it is a brand, a sign to everyone in Orzammar that you are casteless scum, given to you at birth against your will. Some casteless take a sort of rebel pride in their brands, and surround them with garish designs that incorporate the brand into a personal trademark tattoo, but not all. According to non-casteless, the brand is something you should be rightfully ashamed of.

[Sarah1281]

I know you're not supposed to like it but I couldn't stand looking at it the whole game on top of just how resentful the origin made me and Rica's 'happy ending.' 

Edit: Honestly, my DC probably would have taken off for greener pastures after everyone died at Ostagar because why should she care if the Blight is coming? Probably not the best outlook to have but she didn't feel she really owed anything to anyone and the mission was suicide.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 18 mai 2010 - 04:32 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

soignee wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

Funny thing is, a lot of people have been saying they never liked elves until Dragon Age, well I'm that way with dwarves. Dragon Age made dwarves much cooler imo.


I gotta agree with Sarah, the decision about who to support should be really simple for a dwarven commoner.

In many ways, I agree.

DA is t the first time I actually got very excited and attached to playing a dwarf, because of the richness that DA added to dwarves and dwarven culture.

Personally, despite my name, I've never been a great elf fan. Thanks to the DA universe, I can come out of the closet and say "Oooorah! Dwarves!!!!!!!!!"

*does dwarf fistbump*

huzzah! I like both too, but my Brosca wins by a hair slither due to her personality. that made me sound so weird, carry on

Same for me, so don't sweat it.

That's my story too, I found it easier to really wanna go out and party with my Dc than my DN, but only by a hair's breadth.

****** on them srcawny boobless wimp elves. Dwarves FTW!

[BigBad]

Heh. My DC felt sort of obligated to Duncan for offering him a way out of the life he'd lead (and certain death at the hands of humiliated warriors), but also looked at it as his chance to prove that he wasn't some worthless tunnel rat, his chance to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was more than they said he was. What better way to do that than to strike a greater blow at the dwarves' ancestral enemies than anyone in Orzammar ever had before?

[Rhys Cordelle]

lol. Gotta admit, I never realised how scrawny elves are until after playing the game right through as a dwarf.

[Sarah1281]

BigBad wrote...

Heh. My DC felt sort of obligated to Duncan for offering him a way out of the life he'd lead (and certain death at the hands of humiliated warriors), but also looked at it as his chance to prove that he wasn't some worthless tunnel rat, his chance to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was more than they said he was. What better way to do that than to strike a greater blow at the dwarves' ancestral enemies than anyone in Orzammar ever had before?

My DC's obligaton lasted only until Duncan died and she had no such attachment to that guy who accused her of being a mage. Not to mention that she felt no need to prove anything to those self-righteous bastards back in Orzammar that, if she left, she'd never have to see again. What's so important about that, anyway?

[BigBad]

Your DC sounds a lot like Kalah. I imagine that would be pretty interesting to RP.

[Sarah1281]

BigBad wrote...

Your DC sounds a lot like Kalah. I imagine that would be pretty interesting to RP.

 Well she's not an alcoholic or abusive or that she's worthless and her life can't improve. She just intends to settle down in Orlais and not go get herself killed by trying to stop the Blight with two people and the government out to kill her. After all, don't merchants or whatever kind of fighter she could become already aren't viewed as worthless? No need to be stupidly heroic. Not everyone chooses to be a hero and most people in the game don't.

It's more of a 'So Orzammar thinks I'm wothless. Who cares? I don't have to deal with it anymore and I'm off to Orlais and going to ignore them now' then anything else. I'm not really sure how that's like Kalah.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 18 mai 2010 - 05:00 .

[Radahldo]

Im jealous of your Dwarfs Oghren hair, Rhys

[Swordfishtrombone]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

Dwarven Noble is zero to hero as well though. You're exiled and have to fight to survive.

Not really... Drwarven noble is "spoiled rotten rich kid, to zero with friends in high places, to hero", whereas the commoner Dwarf was born in squalor, and never had any really good prospects to begin with; a true "zero to hero".

I much prefer the Dwarven commoner origin storywise, though Dwarven noble isn't bad. In the Dwarven noble line I found the return to Orzammar quite unsatisfying though, whereas for the Dwarven commoner it was a better experience.

Dwarven noble of course has the opportunity to come out of the origin with quite a lot of money, which makes it tempting. But I like the commoner soryline better.

Modifié par Swordfishtrombone, 18 mai 2010 - 07:13 .

[Sarah1281]

Why do so many people feel the DC return to Orzammar was better? What made it better? Killing Leske? Finding out Rica had managed to become a concubine to one of the most ruthless men in the game? I liked the DN return better because it's a harder decision who to support and nearly everyone has something to say about you or your exile. Even Corra at Tapsters is pissed at you! Bhelen's conversation, especially, was different on nearly every line with a DN while with a DC he keeps saying 'oh yeah, and remember you're sister likes me' and then acknowledges you know Jarvia.

[Elhanan]

My first DC did not have his tat. Having it removed helped explain why he knew his way around the city, and why he was broke. My second DC Warden was pleassed with his survival, and wore the headband tat with pride.

While the DN can be a spoiled brat, they may also play as one blessed with a noble heart as well as in title. They also can play as one having fairly good intel, and better prepare for a healthy nestegg for the upcoming troubles.

I enjoyed both returns, as I played each one as turning tables as best as I could based on perspective. My Noble showed Bhelen the door, and gained his own House with name intact. My Casteless Rogue revealed Bhelen and Vartag as the villains they were, but still chose Bhelen as King. Then Sis goes on to become an ambassador, the casteless gain respect and a new house if the brother-in-law ever bites the dust, and in my thoughts, Harrowmount was conscripted as a new general for the surface; only his wife knows the truth.

Modifié par Elhanan, 18 mai 2010 - 07:39 .

[BigBad]

Sarah1281 wrote...

BigBad wrote...

Your DC sounds a lot like Kalah. I imagine that would be pretty interesting to RP.

 Well she's not an alcoholic or abusive or that she's worthless and her life can't improve. She just intends to settle down in Orlais and not go get herself killed by trying to stop the Blight with two people and the government out to kill her. After all, don't merchants or whatever kind of fighter she could become already aren't viewed as worthless? No need to be stupidly heroic. Not everyone chooses to be a hero and most people in the game don't.

It's more of a 'So Orzammar thinks I'm wothless. Who cares? I don't have to deal with it anymore and I'm off to Orlais and going to ignore them now' then anything else. I'm not really sure how that's like Kalah.

I was thinking more of the similiarity in respect to indifference towards greater duties or responsibilities outside of self-interest. Again, a valid way to RP. You're perfectly correct that most people don't choose to be heroes, and your typical casteless dwarf who made it out of Dust Town would just bugger off to Orlais when the Blight threatened Ferelden, but I don't see how you could play that character as an RPG main. After all, the plot cannot progress if you aren't at least minimally invested in defeating the Blight.

[Swordfishtrombone]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Why do so many people feel the DC return to Orzammar was better? What made it better? Killing Leske? Finding out Rica had managed to become a concubine to one of the most ruthless men in the game? I liked the DN return better because it's a harder decision who to support and nearly everyone has something to say about you or your exile. Even Corra at Tapsters is pissed at you! Bhelen's conversation, especially, was different on nearly every line with a DN while with a DC he keeps saying 'oh yeah, and remember you're sister likes me' and then acknowledges you know Jarvia.

While Rica's fate wasn't rosy by "objective" standards, if such a thing can be said to exist, it certainly was a HUGE improvement on what your average castless could expect from life. It was also the best a castless woman could expect in the society. The society itself is twisted and unjust, but within that context, Rica had practically won the lottery. 

If you role play a character who's been brought up in the squalor of dust town, he understands that, and would very likely to be quite happy for Rica.

I played DC on my first playthrough, and actually found the chose of who to support initially very difficult. At first, from what I talked to people, I was pretty sure Harrowmont was the guy to go with, and then Rica waltzes in announcing that she's with Balen.

Can't go against my sis, and ruin her hard won position, now can I? Further research revealed that Belen would likely be better for the castless, and that sealed the deal.

The problem I have with the Dwarven noble's return to Orzammar is that there is no clear way to pursue clearing your name, OR tracking down and taking vengance on those that betrayed you, like Frandlin Ivo, the bastard.

I only heard about there being some way of getting some evidence for your innocence if you first side with Balen, and then switch to Harrowmont, but since there's no clue in the game that this path is the only one that allows you to do something to clear your name, I missed the chance.

You also don't seem to get any sort of closure with Belen, at least if you side with Harrowmont. No one-on-one confrontation. Killing him after the crowning of Harrowmont seems like cold comfort, when you're still considered your brother's slayer, and Belen retains - in death - his honor and Aeducan name.

Haven't finnished this run yet though, so I haven't seen the epilogue. But I was left quite unsatisfied with returning to Orzammar as a DN.

[Sarah1281]

You also don't seem to get any sort of closure with Belen, at least if you side with Harrowmont. No one-on-one confrontation. Killing him after the crowning of Harrowmont seems like cold comfort, when you're still considered your brother's slayer, and Belen retains - in death - his honor and Aeducan name.

Haven't finnished this run yet though, so I haven't seen the epilogue. But I was left quite unsatisfied with returning to Orzammar as a DN.

Well, for now he does. I'm sure if it really bothers you then you can simply posthumously remove him from the family. And while it would be nice to get to meet with both candidates without needing a backstab (though you can get the Trian evidence by deciding the best way to support Harrowmont was to be a spy as that's how Orzammar politcs work), it's understandable why you can't as Bhelen, especially, doesn't want to see you and is hiding from fanatics anyway. Harrowmont's not just going to leave you hanging, though.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 18 mai 2010 - 07:52 .

[Elhanan]

What I enjoy doing with either Origin is revealing Vartag as an inept parasite.



I like taking the initial documents to the Shaper, and getting knowledge that these docs are forgeries, then play it from there as I desire. Even after winning the proving for Harrrowmount, I can then tell Vartag that this makes me a better spy, inform Wynne that we actually have to know more of Bhelen to appease her approval, and then go on to work for Harrowmount in relative peace of mind.

[Verly]

Oh, I like both a lot. I can't really choose. it's not like the elves when you have the awesome city elf origin and the very much lacking dalish one (I mean, come on, couldn't the clan you meet up with be your own at least?).

[Cyberfrog81]

The Commoner origin had hilarious scenes that I loved (replacing the drunken fighter, tricking the prison guard... ) and it was fun shocking/surprising the heck out of anyone, including Duncan. But overall I liked Noble origin better. It made me think, it made me a bit paranoid... overall it felt grander and better written. It was also the very first Origin story I played, which probably affects how I feel about it.

[Rhys Cordelle]

Dwarven Noble was actually the last origin I tried, because I wasn't into dwarves. But I so am now ^^.

[Gilsa]

The pink haired dwarves are amusing me. I may go this route with my Brosca. We'll see if I'm still inspired when I finally finish my current playthrough.

[Rhys Cordelle]

hehe. I'm the only gay in the carta

[soignee]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

hehe. I'm the only gay in the carta

I lul'd. ANOTHER PINEAPPLE AND MALIBU MYFANWY

[thesuperdarkone]

Never knew they had purple dwarves in orzammar XD