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[Spartas Husky]

EffectedByTheMasses wrote...

If it makes your decision any easier, I heard somewhere (not entirely sure) that if you warn Sidonis, he later turns himself in to C-Sec.

yep, his guilt still haunts him, but the kool thing, is C-Sec can't do anything to him since his "crime" was done outside their jurisdiction so no charges are pressed.

HA take that Sidonis....burn in your own hell.

[biomag]

As ME 2 Garrus has a lot in common with myself - he pretty much always says and acts as I would do - I can absolutely understand him. I guess Garrus would feel bad for killing him if Sidonis betrayed him to save someone else than just himself, but this way Sidonis decided that his life was more worth than 11 others. I would kill such a person if he was part of my team. It doesn't matter if he would feel guilty for what he did for the rest of his life, I would just strip him of his last breath for those 10 guys that died because of him. Its not his call how his life should go on or end, his life belongs to those he betrayed.



If Garrus hears the story and still wants him dead, its Garrus' decision and not Shepard's. And out of loyalty and trust towards Garrus I didn't even warn Sidonis. Garrus followed me through every danger and trusted my decision, now its my time to trust him.

[Aggie Punbot]

Spartas Husky wrote...

yep, his guilt still haunts him, but the kool thing, is C-Sec can't do anything to him since his "crime" was done outside their jurisdiction so no charges are pressed.

HA take that Sidonis....burn in your own hell.

What's to stop Sidonis from going to Omega and confessing there?

[Darc_Requiem]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

yep, his guilt still haunts him, but the kool thing, is C-Sec can't do anything to him since his "crime" was done outside their jurisdiction so no charges are pressed.

HA take that Sidonis....burn in your own hell.

What's to stop Sidonis from going to Omega and confessing there?

There is no law enforcement on Omega. Just the Aria and the mercenary gangs. The gangs are the ones that he betrayed his friends to. They won't care and as long as it doesn't effect her Aria isn't likely to care either.

[Spartas Husky]

As a merc. Merc enjoys nothing more than to see people suffer....if he arrives, tear striken, guilt ridden, begging for death, most likely they'll beat him up and throw him to the nearest dung pile.



Wimps aren't worth the hyper velocity rounds....

[Kaylord]

I was very disappointed that, apparently, none of your "teachings" on Garrus from ME1 carried over. On the contrary, I had the distinct impression that Garrus is a bugged carry over of the renegade solution in ME1 (let him kill Dr. Saleon). Maybe here is the same bug as with Conrad Verner? He, too, only carried over with a renegade solution.



IMO a Garrus who was taught paragon in ME1 should have at least different dialogue options here.

[Bigdoser]

Kaylord wrote...

I was very disappointed that, apparently, none of your "teachings" on Garrus from ME1 carried over. On the contrary, I had the distinct impression that Garrus is a bugged carry over of the renegade solution in ME1 (let him kill Dr. Saleon). Maybe here is the same bug as with Conrad Verner? He, too, only carried over with a renegade solution.

IMO a Garrus who was taught paragon in ME1 should have at least different dialogue options here.

Actually he does when you go after harkin you can say to him are you sure about this? then if you where paragon to him in me1 he says i know you don't like this shepard but if have to do this. If you made him renegade he says just like you taught me or something like that.

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

On one hand, death is a release, not a punishment.

On the other hand, this is Garrus's vendetta. Shepard has no right to interfere.

[CalJones]

Yes it's one of the news items on the Emily Wong show (next to C-Sec and the souvenir shop).

[silentstephi]

Ultimately, if you want to save Sidonus, plenty of people here have given you the method to do so.

Whether it's right or not... that's open to interpretation. But something to remember: if you let Garrus kill Sid, or let him go... you have a slightly different Garrus in the game now.

Either a more Renegade Garrus (got the job done) or a more Paragon Garrus (saw good in him.)

But after that point, it's hard to say if it's the same Garrus.

I know the Dr. Heart choice didn't have all that much effect on his attitude: Garrus just seems a natural Renegade. You can keep paragoning him 'till his ears bleed... and maybe now he gets the hint (if you save Sid.)



Personally? I never save him. (I did once for my Paragon, because, well, she's a paragon *read pansy *) I think Garrus is there to get justice, not revenge, for his 10 other squad mates. And by paragoning the story from Sid's own lips, Garrus in the end does right by ALL his men. Sid would rather be dead from what he did.

So Garrus obliges him.

I don't see it as him self destructing or any other such thing. It's just a renegade thing to do. /shrug

[Kaylord]

Bigdoser wrote...

Kaylord wrote...

I was very disappointed that, apparently, none of your "teachings" on Garrus from ME1 carried over. On the contrary, I had the distinct impression that Garrus is a bugged carry over of the renegade solution in ME1 (let him kill Dr. Saleon). Maybe here is the same bug as with Conrad Verner? He, too, only carried over with a renegade solution.

IMO a Garrus who was taught paragon in ME1 should have at least different dialogue options here.

Actually he does when you go after harkin you can say to him are you sure about this? then if you where paragon to him in me1 he says i know you don't like this shepard but if have to do this. If you made him renegade he says just like you taught me or something like that.

Thank you for that clarification. But I still think there is a discrepancy after all you told him as a paragon in ME1...

[Spartas Husky]

Even if you were taught by monks, and suddenly you saw your family killed in front of your eyes coz one of your brothers sold you for a couple of dollars....it would be understandable if you suddenly turned into a revenge driven beast.



So not hard to see why alot of the good things garrus learned from Sheppherd, are still in his mind, but not currently driving his moral compass.

[lovgreno]

Garrus actions was quite understandable. But he deserves better than to become a bitter, selfpitying and single minded avenger. He is a good man (well turian) and one of Shepards few real friends (unless your Shepard is a racist), Shepard owes him that help.



Sidonis? I don't think he is worth Garrus and Shepards attention realy. Let it go and forget him.



Oh man I gotta admit that the Garrus bromance gets me.

[Mykel54]

I found it odd that shooting Harkins and killing Sidonis (don´t know if the Sidonis part is necessary related thought) makes Harkins not be caught by Csec. On the other hand if you stop Garrus from shooting Harkins later on EDI tells you that Csec have caught Harkins. Specifically because Garrus says that by shooting harkins, Csec would have it easier to caught him.