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[Jedi0309]

I've been a big fan of Bioware ever since Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic.  They've always put out great quality games with impressive storylines, lovable characters, witty and entertaining dialog, and content.  However, things started changing.  It was subtle at first, but now I can't lie to myself about it and neither should any of you.

I simply love Mass Effect 2, but I feel like my bank account is being taken for a ride.  When the game was released, it had very little content in the way of guns and armor.  Sure, this didn't effect gameplay much, but the inventory felt empty compared the amount of weapons and armor options of the first Mass Effect.  ME2 added special content for people who preordered the game, and if you bought the special edition or collector's edition, even more free and unique weapons and armor.  Members of the Cerberus network are also privy to free content as well, but this feels like a ploy to get you hooked on new equipment and content.  Now, they've started offering new weapons and armor.... for a price.  Like most players, I'm torn between just sticking with the freebies, or spending the $5 on points so I can buy the DLC content.  Expanding an already tiny arsenal should be free, while gameplay DLC content like Stolen Memory is worthy of your $5.  At first, this was the case.  But, now I'm not so sure.

Of course this is just my opinion, and I'm sure this post is going to be flamed to hell and back.  Just don't say obvious things, like "If you don't like it, don't buy it.... blah blah blah....".  try to add some perspective instead of ignorance.  What I'd like to hear is confirmation that others feel the same way.  I'd like to think I'm not the only one who feels like we're being farmed for cash, but if I am so be it.

I know it'll probably happen, so..... Troll away

[Onyx Jaguar]

No you are right for the most part.



Some of it wasn't balanced correctly/finished in time for launch. Balance issues are an issue with the equipment. I bet Kasumi's DLC wasn't even planned for a gun for instance but then they realized they need a SMG alternative so they designed that one. etc.



7 Bucks is a bit much considering Point Lookout for Fallout 3 is 10 bucks, but then again if you compare it to OP:A it seems like a better deal.



Granted its 700 megabytes and new VA/Sound Score. And sound score is something that even Bethesda's DLC don't implement.



And the CN is copy protection, nothing more, nothing less. You really are not missing out on much but there is enough there that is worth getting.

[Dougdh]

I hear Bioware is secretly plotting with Mythic to break the shackles of their enslavement to the beast known as EA. Allegedly.

[Collider]

Mass Effect 1: Hordes of recolored weapons. Once you have enough money you just buy Spectre gear which is better than everything else.



ME2 as was released on day one was an amazing game (inb4 ME1 fans disagreeing). If there was no DLC whatsoever either no one would mention or some people would ask for more ME2 content in the form of DLC.



I do think we are getting farmed, but that's to be expected. Bioware is a business.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Dougdh wrote...

I hear Bioware is secretly plotting with Mythic to break the shackles of their enslavement to the beast known as EA. Allegedly.

You should just buy EA.  Problem solved.

Granted then to make your money back you'd probably have to liquidate some offices.  SO HARD

[Nivenus]

Collider wrote...

Mass Effect 1: Hordes of recolored weapons. Once you have enough money you just buy Spectre gear which is better than everything else.

ME2 as was released on day one was an amazing game (inb4 ME1 fans disagreeing). If there was no DLC whatsoever either no one would mention or some people would ask for more ME2 content in the form of DLC.

I do think we are getting farmed, but that's to be expected. Bioware is a business.

Indeed. BioWare's prices have so far been fairly reasonable for what you get. Well, except for the alt appearances, which really should be free.

But none of the DLC is required. Plenty of people played ME1 without buying Bring Down the Sky or Pinnacle Station. If you don't want the DLC, don't buy. Simple as that.

[kraidy1117]

Dougdh wrote...

I hear Bioware is secretly plotting with Mythic to break the shackles of their enslavement to the beast known as EA. Allegedly.

Rather have EA own Bioware then Activison.

[AntiChri5]

Yeah this is a pretty common complaint.



They do deserve to be compensated for their work so i wont blink at forking out for things like Overlord but charging for two helmets is a bit much.

[Dougdh]

Ya know what? I think I WILL buy EA. Hell, I'll buy Microsoft too. But I'll do it secretly, and I'll leave the president/CEO of the companies there so that people will still think it's up to them what happens. Like that bank that bought America in the 50s. Allegedly.

[Mister Mida]

In general, DLC is overprized anyway so I'm not bothering myself with the prizes anymore. The only time I really thought I was getting my money's worth was with the Raising Hell expansion for Overlord. But I'll admit Bioware is more generous on pricing their DLC compared to most developers. I do think Bioware made a mistake with putting prices on items for a game that has a big focus on storytelling. That's why I don't buy the dress up stuff and only the story content.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 19 mai 2010 - 08:39 .

[kraidy1117]

Nivenus wrote...

Collider wrote...

Mass Effect 1: Hordes of recolored weapons. Once you have enough money you just buy Spectre gear which is better than everything else.

ME2 as was released on day one was an amazing game (inb4 ME1 fans disagreeing). If there was no DLC whatsoever either no one would mention or some people would ask for more ME2 content in the form of DLC.

I do think we are getting farmed, but that's to be expected. Bioware is a business.

Indeed. BioWare's prices have so far been fairly reasonable for what you get. Well, except for the alt appearances, which really should be free.

But none of the DLC is required. Plenty of people played ME1 without buying Bring Down the Sky or Pinnacle Station. If you don't want the DLC, don't buy. Simple as that.

People don't relise that, they think they need to have all the DLC. ME2 is not like a FPS where you need the map packs to play, all DLC in ME2 is not required.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Dougdh wrote...

Ya know what? I think I WILL buy EA. Hell, I'll buy Microsoft too. But I'll do it secretly, and I'll leave the president/CEO of the companies there so that people will still think it's up to them what happens. Like that bank that bought America in the 50s. Allegedly.

I cannot comment on rumor or speculation

[Dougdh]

Soon.....I will OWN all game developers........And then I will have the power.

[Nivenus]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Dougdh wrote...

Ya know what? I think I WILL buy EA. Hell, I'll buy Microsoft too. But I'll do it secretly, and I'll leave the president/CEO of the companies there so that people will still think it's up to them what happens. Like that bank that bought America in the 50s. Allegedly.

I cannot comment on rumor or speculation

Onyx runs the world? It all makes sense now.

[Collider]

Armor in ME2 is better than ME1 - literally the only thing different among armor of the same weight in ME1 was the coloring and the stats. By endgame everyone is dressed in Predator or Colossus armor. I very much prefer the unique outfits of ME2.

[Dougdh]

Yes....That guy.....Onyx...I will not comment on this thread further lest my plan be foiled.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

scyphozoa wrote...

The weapons argument I would say I disagree with. In ME1 you had hundreds of weapons that didn't really feel unique. At best, the classes of guns had their own feel, but within those classes, the guns all functioned the same, and the only reason to upgrade was higher DPS, accuracy or shots fired before overheating.

ME 1 allowed people to tailor their armor and weapons according to their play style. ME 2 made us stick to the default armor and weapons unless we spent more of our money to get the variations that we could previously upgrade in ME 1. ME 1's weapon and armor system absolutely trumps ME 2s; it gave us more options and infinite customization for less money.

Modifié par Dr. Peter Venkman, 19 mai 2010 - 08:45 .

[Nivenus]

Collider wrote...

Armor in ME2 is better than ME1 - literally the only thing different among armor of the same weight in ME1 was the coloring and the stats. By endgame everyone is dressed in Predator or Colossus armor. I very much prefer the unique outfits of ME2.

I kind of feel mixed about this. Overall, I like armor in ME2 better insofar as customization and unique-ness is concerned, but I wish we had more variety than N7 custom plus three or four un-alterable suits.

Plus, some of the ME1 suits looked awesome.

However, I agree entirely on the weapons. We didn't have hundreds of weapons in ME1. We had four. With upgrades and two alterable skins. And a secret weapon.

[Dualfinger]

Can't we leave the poor bastards alone, sure they've made same mistakes and some things arn't as perfect as we hoped for. But don't forget that they didn't just pump this out, they care about this game as much, or even more so than the rest of us.
I'm quite confident that if they were really intending on fleecing us of our hard earned cash they'd have done it. And although I have no evidence other than gut instinct methinks the EA may have had some negative influence.

Although in all fairness I haven't gotten any DLC due to the lack of live, I'm just working off what other people say.

Modifié par Dualfinger, 19 mai 2010 - 08:53 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Dualfinger wrote...

Can't we leave the poor bastards alone, sure they've made same mistakes and some things arn't as perfect as we hoped for. But don't forget that they didn't just pump this out, they care about this game as much, or even more so than the rest of us. T
I'm quite confident that if they were really intending on fleecing us of our hard earned cash they'd have done it. And although I have no evidence other than gut instinct methinks the EA may have had some negative influence.

Although in all fairness I haven't gotten any DLC due to the lack of live, I'm just working off what other people say.

its not that serious. great production company.

[kraidy1117]

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

The weapons argument I would say I disagree with. In ME1 you had hundreds of weapons that didn't really feel unique. At best, the classes of guns had their own feel, but within those classes, the guns all functioned the same, and the only reason to upgrade was higher DPS, accuracy or shots fired before overheating.

ME 1 allowed people to tailor their armor and weapons according to their play style. ME 2 made us stick to the default armor and weapons unless we spent more of our money to get the variations that we could previously upgrade in ME 1. ME 1's weapon and armor system absolutely trumps ME 2s; it gave us more options and infinite customization for less money.

You enjoyed picking up twenty of the same ARs? I did't I prefer my unique weapons in ME2. Quality over quanity anyday.

[Collider]

On the subject of weapons, I wish we were given in-game stats for each.

[Nivenus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

The weapons argument I would say I disagree with. In ME1 you had hundreds of weapons that didn't really feel unique. At best, the classes of guns had their own feel, but within those classes, the guns all functioned the same, and the only reason to upgrade was higher DPS, accuracy or shots fired before overheating.

ME 1 allowed people to tailor their armor and weapons according to their play style. ME 2 made us stick to the default armor and weapons unless we spent more of our money to get the variations that we could previously upgrade in ME 1. ME 1's weapon and armor system absolutely trumps ME 2s; it gave us more options and infinite customization for less money.

You enjoyed picking up twenty of the same ARs? I did't I prefer my unique weapons in ME2. Quality over quanity anyday.

I like this part. It has weight.

EDIT:

Collider wrote...

On the subject of weapons, I wish we were given in-game stats for each.

Yeah, as it is you have to decipher their utility through reading the lore (which isn't always completely reflected by gameplay) and practice.

Modifié par Nivenus, 19 mai 2010 - 08:53 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

There are hints but no real information.



For instance in regards to AR's its easy to tell that the Avenger does moderate damage/full auto/highly inaccurate while the Vindicator does high damage/burst fire/fairly accurate



But when we get to Collector AR/Geth Pulse there needs to be an indication of the differences.



Same with Locust/Tempest (I think it was the tempest)