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[BrunoB1971]

I am at the end and Saren is kicking my butt.

I guess i got a bad build....i got some decent weapons but when i start to do some decent damage, the weapon overheats and stays overheated more than usual which gives saren time to recharge his shields which in return make him almost impossible to beat.

I have wrex and garrus with me and they are not much help either.

I read that i would need some shield bypass rounds to help me which i discarded of course 

and to top it off i cant go back far enough to go buy stuff anymore....

I guess i am screwed...


anybody's advice?

[MarshalMeLee]

Switch weapons.



Rapid fire weapons are your friend against Saren and other highly mobile targets. Single-shot powerful weapons are not great (Sniper Rifle is probably the closest). Got a pistol with Marskman? Use it as often as you can, it is my favourite weapon against him.



Knowing what class you are will help too, and who your party members are. Use anything you have, particularly Barrier and Immunity, to survive.



Shield bypass rounds make it easier but you don't absolutely need them. Make sure you optimize your setups though, with ammo types that will at least do additional damage, if not the ideal bypass shields.

[ObserverStatus]

*edit* If you are on a lower difficulty, he will be vulnerable to lift. While under the effect of this ability, he is far easier to hit and goes down quickly.

Modifié par bobobo878, 20 mai 2010 - 12:16 .

[Chala]

I tell you the secret of haw I killed him:



just aim and shoot like if there is no tomorrow

[wolfsite]

Ya if you are at a difficulty level were he isn't immune to lift and you have enough Biotics he is an easy target.

If not use your pistol or Assault Rifle if you have the skill and and keep a good distance and stay mobile, pause if needed to find him when he moves off screen and keep overload and sabotage if you have them for added damage. The main thing is to keep your distance and keep moving especially if he is on the wall about to launch energy orbs, Don't bother with grenades unless he is stunned, he will just jump clear.

Modifié par wolfsite, 20 mai 2010 - 12:46 .

[thepiebaker]

use dampening and sabotage. it's so much easier. then have your squaddies use sniper rifles. i equipped with with scram rails and high explosive rounds

[Hahren]

Your weapons are overheating like that because Saren is using sabotage against you. You'll need to switch weapons for a bit while the duration runs it's course. Using Dampening if you have someone with it will slow him down from sabotaging your weapons. Overload his shields too if you can! Also keep moving and shooting. Fighting him from one position only is a good way to reload that fight over and over.

[Duncan1337]

Be sure to use cover and place your sqaudmates where they wont take a lot of damage as well.



When your weapon overheats switch weapons and just keep shooting. When his shields are down do as much damage as you can.

[soteria]

Is this fight really that much harder on the harder difficulties? My infiltrator sniped him down easily enough on veteran, first time ever. I just didn't think he was that hard to hit.



Does he still count as an organic (shredder rounds)?

[Eddo36]

He's cake. I beat him as an adept in Insanity, and biotic powers don't ever work on him on his hovercraft.

Coming to think of it, everything in this game is cake.

Modifié par Eddo36, 30 mai 2010 - 10:14 .

[Jestina]

Talk him into suicide.



If I have to fight him...I usually just pull out overload, sabotage, damping, and then shoot shoot shoot.

[Eddo36]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Eddo36 wrote...

He's cake. I beat him as an adept in Insanity, and biotic powers don't ever work on him on his hovercraft.

Coming to think of it, everything in this game is cake.

That's nice for you, but doesn't help him the slightest bit. So, unless you plan on playing for him, I suggest you actually help him or leave.


Neofelis Nebulosa

Maybe it could be that I was talking to the person above my post, who asked how difficult it was. So, unless you plan on paying attention to the whole thread, I suggest you leave.

[Devos]

I found him a nightmare the first time around. Lift will work on him, even on insanity. Damping stops him from using some of his attacks but not others, he still manages to use the sabotage beam ocasionally. Overload is good to keep pressure on his shields. But the first time around I pretty much had none of that stuff available.



He can be hard to hit but you can aim with the power wheel up. Its a bit cheap but when ever he lands you can bring up the power wheel and aim at him. As for being sabotaged pistols are the best weapon without point investment so even if you haven't put points in them it's better to use them to do some damage and prevent his shield recovering than just wait for your main gun to cool.

soteria wrote...



Is this fight really that much harder on the harder difficulties? My infiltrator sniped him down easily enough on veteran, first time ever. I just didn't think he was that hard to hit.

I haven't fought him on Veteran or lower since my first play but as I recall the fight, massively harder. He only takes a handful of hit with an SR on Insanity he takes a serious beating. Vetran and easier the Sniper Rifle is the best weapon because its damage is front loaded. The bump to health on higher difficulties makes that front loading much less useful and the higher DPS of pistols makes it king.



IIRC Glider Sarren is organic, Terminator Sarren is synthetic.

[Eddo36]

I didn't start.

[Beocat]

Hmm, he wasn't too bad for me to beat. It just took a while and I remember he was really annoying to me. I had Tali and Kaiden with me though, so not sure if that changes things any and I was an adept so even with the weaker guns and armor I was able to beat him. I think I used the marksman ability every time I could.

[KalosCast]

I had a really bad build on my first play through, it's... a hell of a grind. Just use whatever can hit him consistently and do some good damage and keep moving.

[Christmas Ape]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Eddo36 wrote...

Maybe it could be that I was talking to the person above my post, who asked how difficult it was. So, unless you plan on paying attention to the whole thread, I suggest you leave.

And I say, unless you want to derail this topic, to frickin' stay on topic!

Not worth it, man. Not. Worth. It.
It's like having a conversation with that Eliza chatbot, circa 1991.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Well um, i made saren kill himself since i had enough charm. But really there is nothing to it, just keep using biotics or have a squadmate use biotics and take him down with a bunch of heavy firepower while taking cover.

[soteria]

I haven't fought him on Veteran or lower since my first play but as I recall the fight, massively harder. He only takes a handful of hit with an SR on Insanity he takes a serious beating. Vetran and easier the Sniper Rifle is the best weapon because its damage is front loaded. The bump to health on higher difficulties makes that front loading much less useful and the higher DPS of pistols makes it king.

IIRC Glider Sarren is organic, Terminator Sarren is synthetic.

Well, that probably explains it. With Kaiden and Liara and myself, I had two overloads and two lifts to keep his shield down and cc him periodically. Too bad about the higher difficulties, though. I think the pistol is just really boring to use, and the sniper rifle is a lot of fun because it's more "twitchy." We'll see how my insanity run goes. Even with two rail extensions and tungsten rounds, will I not be able to get 1-shot kills with the sniper?

[Devos]

soteria wrote...



Even with two rail extensions and tungsten rounds, will I not be able to get 1-shot kills with the sniper?

I use a rail extension and frictionless or sometimes two scrams and I find even a standard geth will take two shots. I think I tried two rail extensions at some point and they still just about survived the first shot but it was a while ago I was testing this stuff out so I may be wrong. Still it's not that hard playing through insanity primarily using an SR as long as you have enough CC. The main difference in insanity is how much more damage you have to do but also you know what you are up against so you are less likely to be caught out without a critical power for an encounter. Pretty much any new game+ character shouldn't have a problem with insanity. Apart from a couple of early fights which you can get caught out on its not that hard even with a fresh character.

The only situation ME is hard is when you are caught out without the right set of abilities available, which it seems is what happened to the OP.

[tonnactus]

bobobo878 wrote...

*edit* If you are on a lower difficulty, he will be vulnerable to lift. While under the effect of this ability, he is far easier to hit and goes down quickly.

???
He is vulnerable to lift on all difficulties,even on insanity.

[tonnactus]

Eddo36 wrote...

He's cake. I beat him as an adept in Insanity, and biotic powers don't ever work on him on his hovercraft.
 

Stasis works.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

being a soldier class having Assault Rifle with frictionless material+frictionless material+inferno rounds = effective
plus Liara (biotics and Stasis)
and someone else complementary

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 02 juin 2010 - 11:52 .