DarthCaine wrote...
We already went through this and I couldn't convince you since you are biased and hate the ME2 characters, so you think what you like
Ironically, I don't have a ME1 LI, and I do have a ME2 LI, in 100% of ME3 imports.
Should I cheat on Liara?
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:17
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Ironically, I don't have a ME1 LI, and I do have a ME2 LI, in 100% of ME3 imports.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:20
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she dumped you for Feron..I say screw her
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:20
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DarthCaine wrote...
Why do you think Liara was just a cameo in ME2?
Because... [drumroll...] she needs to be in ME3. None of ME2 SMs need to be in ME3, so they are available for the "suicide mission".
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:21
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I recommend you to don´t cheat, as it is likely to be awarded somehow in the future. If you want to cheat you can do it easily with a new character (or imported).
If you stay loyal, you may get some kind of reward later on for it. If you don´t, you will just get the normal thing.
My advice is to have at least one savegame when you don´t cheat, and another when you do. If i had to pick only one savegame, i would pick the one i didn´t cheat, mainly looking forward to the "award" of it. If you only keep one savegame when you cheated liara, then you will be missing any possible awards and your game will be nearly the same as if you had not romanced liara in ME1.
If you stay loyal, you may get some kind of reward later on for it. If you don´t, you will just get the normal thing.
My advice is to have at least one savegame when you don´t cheat, and another when you do. If i had to pick only one savegame, i would pick the one i didn´t cheat, mainly looking forward to the "award" of it. If you only keep one savegame when you cheated liara, then you will be missing any possible awards and your game will be nearly the same as if you had not romanced liara in ME1.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:22
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crimzontearz wrote...
she dumped you for Feron..I say screw her
More like she dumped Feron for your sake.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:26
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Yeah, sure if that was the case they never would have made Tali a squad mate in ME2Zulu_DFA wrote...
DarthCaine wrote...
Why do you think Liara was just a cameo in ME2?
Because... [drumroll...] she needs to be in ME3. None of ME2 SMs need to be in ME3, so they are available for the "suicide mission".
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:31
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DarthCaine wrote...
Most people don't see it as cheating. Liara's moved on, she doesn't care about you anymore. The ME1 romances were just a fling IMO
It should have negative consequences (emails) in ME3 only if you want to get back together with your ME1 LI (which nobody what "cheated" actually wants since the new LIs are much better)
EDIT: If you want to be with Liara in ME3, don't "cheat". If you like Miranda more, then go ahead, dump Liara
This is the most ridiculous garbage I've read in a while on this forum. It's full of nothing but opinion and has absolutely no evidence to back it up. You can feel like the ME2 LIs were better, but don't go around saying that the first romances were a fling. If you didn't like them, then you didn't like them. Fine.
What part of "I loved you" (Horizon) and Liara risking her life to get Shepard's body do people not get? There's absolutely nothing that indicates that the ME1 LIs were flings.
And you honestly think there should be negative consquences in the form of an email if someone wants to get back together with their ME1 LI? Why? Because you assume that it was only a fling and that people that liked the first romances should be punished?
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:33
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Not enough info. "Horny" is NOT a character description. You are really suck at RP-ing, aren't you?
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:34
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What the...fortunesque wrote...
DarthCaine wrote...
Most people don't see it as cheating. Liara's moved on, she doesn't care about you anymore. The ME1 romances were just a fling IMO
It should have negative consequences (emails) in ME3 only if you want to get back together with your ME1 LI (which nobody what "cheated" actually wants since the new LIs are much better)
EDIT: If you want to be with Liara in ME3, don't "cheat". If you like Miranda more, then go ahead, dump Liara
This is the most ridiculous garbage I've read in a while on this forum. It's full of nothing but opinion and has absolutely no evidence to back it up. You can feel like the ME2 LIs were better, but don't go around saying that the first romances were a fling. If you didn't like them, then you didn't like them. Fine.
What part of "I loved you" (Horizon) and Liara risking her life to get Shepard's body do people not get? There's absolutely nothing that indicates that the ME1 LIs were flings.
And you honestly think there should be negative consquences in the form of an email if someone wants to get back together with their ME1 LI? Why? Because you assume that it was only a fling and that people that liked the first romances should be punished?
? You were expecting more than peoples opinions? He is entited to his opinion. The LI's in ME1 were kind of flingy but i think that has more to do with game restraints than anything.Sheesh lighten up dude.
Also he was being sarcastic about the emails....considering the fact that is the prime way of seeing any consequences to the choices you make in ME2.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:36
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Or he's really good at trolling.Chickenaut wrote...
Not enough info. "Horny" is NOT a character description. You are really suck at RP-ing, aren't you?
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:37
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Darth Jayder wrote...
What the...fortunesque wrote...
DarthCaine wrote...
Most people don't see it as cheating. Liara's moved on, she doesn't care about you anymore. The ME1 romances were just a fling IMO
It should have negative consequences (emails) in ME3 only if you want to get back together with your ME1 LI (which nobody what "cheated" actually wants since the new LIs are much better)
EDIT: If you want to be with Liara in ME3, don't "cheat". If you like Miranda more, then go ahead, dump Liara
This is the most ridiculous garbage I've read in a while on this forum. It's full of nothing but opinion and has absolutely no evidence to back it up. You can feel like the ME2 LIs were better, but don't go around saying that the first romances were a fling. If you didn't like them, then you didn't like them. Fine.
What part of "I loved you" (Horizon) and Liara risking her life to get Shepard's body do people not get? There's absolutely nothing that indicates that the ME1 LIs were flings.
And you honestly think there should be negative consquences in the form of an email if someone wants to get back together with their ME1 LI? Why? Because you assume that it was only a fling and that people that liked the first romances should be punished?
Sheesh lighten up dude.
I'm not angry as much as I'm bewildered...
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:37
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DarthCaine wrote...
Yeah, sure if that was the case they never would have made Tali a squad mate in ME2Zulu_DFA wrote...
DarthCaine wrote...
Why do you think Liara was just a cameo in ME2?
Because... [drumroll...] she needs to be in ME3. None of ME2 SMs need to be in ME3, so they are available for the "suicide mission".
If they hadn't made Tali recruitable in ME2 there wouldn't be many people intetionally getting her killed during the "suicide mission", so that no matter what, she wasn't going to be in their ME3, even as a cameo.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:38
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Hey OP, maybe you should go with this to the Liara and Miranda thread, there you can get answers concerning the two characters if you want to know something and also you don't attract haters who just pop in here to say "DOOD SRSLY DONT CH00SE LAIRA/MRIANDA SHE SUXX".
My opinion? If you have such doubts and second thoughts about cheating on Liara you rather shouldn't do it.
My opinion? If you have such doubts and second thoughts about cheating on Liara you rather shouldn't do it.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:38
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@OP
Again, do what you want. A thread such as this will always be full of people giving their opinions as 'fact'. Both Liara and Miranda are legit romances and neither are 'flings' unless you want them to be.
Again, do what you want. A thread such as this will always be full of people giving their opinions as 'fact'. Both Liara and Miranda are legit romances and neither are 'flings' unless you want them to be.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:38
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You really shouldn't get his hopes up,most likely there won't be a reward for not doing the deed with someone other then your ex. In fact there shouldn't a reward or punishement for ether action unless you try have both at the sametime thats a different story all together. If you get puinshed it's pretty much a punishment for playing me1and not kowning you were going to have better range of choices me2. That would be a reward for those how didnt buy or play me1and wouldn't make much sense, being reward for not playing a game.Mykel54 wrote...
I recommend you to don´t cheat, as it is likely to be awarded somehow in the future. If you want to cheat you can do it easily with a new character (or imported).
If you stay loyal, you may get some kind of reward later on for it. If you don´t, you will just get the normal thing.
My advice is to have at least one savegame when you don´t cheat, and another when you do. If i had to pick only one savegame, i would pick the one i didn´t cheat, mainly looking forward to the "award" of it. If you only keep one savegame when you cheated liara, then you will be missing any possible awards and your game will be nearly the same as if you had not romanced liara in ME1.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:39
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DarthCaine wrote...
Most people don't see it as cheating. Liara's moved on, she doesn't care about you anymore. The ME1 romances were just a fling IMO
It should have negative consequences (emails) in ME3 only if you want to get back together with your ME1 LI (which nobody what "cheated" actually wants since the new LIs are much better)
EDIT: If you want to be with Liara in ME3, don't "cheat". If you like Miranda more, then go ahead, dump Liara
Which part of IMO didn't you understand? (in my opinion)This is the most ridiculous garbage I've read in a while on this forum. It's full of nothing but opinion and has absolutely no evidence to back it up. You can feel like the ME2 LIs were better, but don't go around saying that the first romances were a fling. If you didn't like them, then you didn't like them. Fine.
Liara does it regardless of whether she's your LI. And she specifically says "friend" in the comicWhat part of "I loved you" (Horizon) and Liara risking her life to get Shepard's body do people not get? There's absolutely nothing that indicates that the ME1 LIs were flings
The email thing was a joke (as in most "consequences" are just crappy emails).And you honestly think there should be negative consquences in the form of an email if someone wants to get back together with their ME1 LI? Why? Because you assume that it was only a fling and that people that liked the first romances should be punished?
I think you misunderstood me a bit. I see it like this:
If you had a ME1 and you sleep with someone in ME2, and you decide to stay with your ME2 LI, then it's not cheating. You just dumped your ME1 LI for a ME2 LI.
If you slept with a ME2 LI and you want to get back together with your ME1 LI, then it's sort of like cheating. But, you were on a break, so it doesn't count . Your ME1 basically said screw you in ME2
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:39
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Facts for the OP:
1. The devs have stated that there will be consequences for "cheating"
2. "Cheating" was a term that the devs have used to describe moving on
3. We do not know what the consequences for choosing a new LI will be
If you're that worried about what could happen, then don't do it. If you don't care that much, then do it.
1. The devs have stated that there will be consequences for "cheating"
2. "Cheating" was a term that the devs have used to describe moving on
3. We do not know what the consequences for choosing a new LI will be
If you're that worried about what could happen, then don't do it. If you don't care that much, then do it.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:44
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1. Consequences in the form of emailsfortunesque wrote...
Facts for the OP:
1. The devs have stated that there will be consequences for "cheating"
2. "Cheating" was a term that the devs have used to describe moving on
3. We do not know what the consequences for choosing a new LI will be
If you're that worried about what could happen, then don't do it. If you don't care that much, then do it.
2. call it whatever you want......
3. Again email from the scorned lover.
IMO
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:45
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DarthCaine wrote...
DarthCaine wrote...
Most people don't see it as cheating. Liara's moved on, she doesn't care about you anymore. The ME1 romances were just a fling IMO
It should have negative consequences (emails) in ME3 only if you want to get back together with your ME1 LI (which nobody what "cheated" actually wants since the new LIs are much better)
EDIT: If you want to be with Liara in ME3, don't "cheat". If you like Miranda more, then go ahead, dump LiaraWhich part of IMO didn't you understand? (in my opinion)This is the most ridiculous garbage I've read in a while on this forum. It's full of nothing but opinion and has absolutely no evidence to back it up. You can feel like the ME2 LIs were better, but don't go around saying that the first romances were a fling. If you didn't like them, then you didn't like them. Fine.
Liara does it regardless of whether she's your LI. And she specifically says "friend" in the comicWhat part of "I loved you" (Horizon) and Liara risking her life to get Shepard's body do people not get? There's absolutely nothing that indicates that the ME1 LIs were flings
The email thing was a joke (as in most "consequences" are just crappy emails).And you honestly think there should be negative consquences in the form of an email if someone wants to get back together with their ME1 LI? Why? Because you assume that it was only a fling and that people that liked the first romances should be punished?
I think you misunderstood me a bit. I see it like this:
If you had a ME1 and you sleep with someone in ME2, and you decide to stay with your ME2 LI, then it's not cheating. You just dumped your ME1 LI for a ME2 LI.
If you slept with a ME2 LI and you want to get back together with your ME1 LI, then it's sort of like cheating. But, you were on a break, so it doesn't count . Your ME1 basically said screw you in ME2
The comic is meant to be gender neutral and romance neutral. I don't think it's a particularly good basis for interpretation of Liara's relationship with Shepard.
The relationship seems to be 'on the rocks' to me. Even if you're out of touch with the other person and/or you had a fight, it doesn't mean you've broken up; it just means that you have stuff to iron out. In my interpretation, it's cheating. They were still together when Shepard died and when Shepard awakes, he/she hasn't had those two years that the LI had.
That being said, I feel that BW is trying to force drama by not giving people an option to break up with the ME1 LI. It's like there is some kind of scene/scenario that they want folks to have for one reason or another. It seems underhanded to me, though I did not "cheat" on my LI.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:52
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I don't see that at all. The option is there. It is just a difficult choice to make..... as it should be. If it wasn't tough and there was going to be no drama then it would all be shallow and pointless.fortunesque wrote...
That being said, I feel that BW is trying to force drama by not giving people an option to break up with the ME1 LI. It's like there is some kind of scene/scenario that they want folks to have for one reason or another. It seems underhanded to me, though I did not "cheat" on my LI.
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 05:55
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C9316 wrote...
Yes I romanced Liara with my Paragon Vanguard class Sheperd named Joshua. However I RPed Joshua to be kinda horny(which might be why he and the consort had some romance) so when Liara wouldn't rejoin his squad I might have unintentionally rped that he kissed Miranda and she is currently waiting for me to talk with her oh noes. What should Joshua do I like both Liara and Miranda but my biggest fear is that there will be some huge confrontation in ME3 that I would have to deal with
Or you know, you could just have 2 difrent playthroughs?
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 06:24
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If you would go as far as to actually create this topic, I'd say that you've already made your choice.
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 20 mai 2010 - 06:24 .
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 06:30
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C9316 wrote...
What should Joshua do I like both Liara and Miranda but my biggest fear is that there will be some huge confrontation in ME3 that I would have to deal with
Joshua cheats on Liara
Liara and Miranda have a confrontation scene, but end up kissing eachother (and probably a lot more)
Joshua has no girlfriend in ME3
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Posté 20 mai 2010 - 07:10
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ok, this is freaking ridiculous
the Liara apologists need to wake up. I do not care what the excuse is for Bioware, Liara flat out chose NOT to go with Shepard. yes, Shepard, the man she wanted to bring back from the dead because in spite of Asari Phylosophy she could not get over him. He came and told her basically "I am gunning for the colloector in a near suicide mission that could be my last I need you at my side" and she very much said "I am sorry but avenging Feron and finding out if he is still alive is more imposrtant than coming with you even if your life could be at stake"
that is not a relationship "on the rocks" that is Liara being a twit and showing Shepard something matters to her a lot more than him ( perhaps because of incredibly poor writing). And please do not give me the "Oh but Liara is a complex character, she felst guilty about it and stuff" because AFTER the heart to heart talk in which Shepard Forgives her she still refuses to go with him or even warm up a little aknowledging their relationship as still existing. and according to the Audio Files labeled "liara DLC" she STILL refuses to go after killing the shadow broker because she wants to take his place
the Liara apologists need to wake up. I do not care what the excuse is for Bioware, Liara flat out chose NOT to go with Shepard. yes, Shepard, the man she wanted to bring back from the dead because in spite of Asari Phylosophy she could not get over him. He came and told her basically "I am gunning for the colloector in a near suicide mission that could be my last I need you at my side" and she very much said "I am sorry but avenging Feron and finding out if he is still alive is more imposrtant than coming with you even if your life could be at stake"
that is not a relationship "on the rocks" that is Liara being a twit and showing Shepard something matters to her a lot more than him ( perhaps because of incredibly poor writing). And please do not give me the "Oh but Liara is a complex character, she felst guilty about it and stuff" because AFTER the heart to heart talk in which Shepard Forgives her she still refuses to go with him or even warm up a little aknowledging their relationship as still existing. and according to the Audio Files labeled "liara DLC" she STILL refuses to go after killing the shadow broker because she wants to take his place
