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[Axekix]

Avilia wrote...

maxernst wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Maybe she just seduced him and didn't mention the ritual?

I think she'd have a hard time managing that given her codex.  She basically lol'd in his face the entire trip.

Unless... Alistair has a humiliation fetish?

That's a dangerously plausible idea. 

Well, Arl Eamon made him sleep with the dogs and Alistair still thinks he's an honourable man.  Perhaps we've hit on the truth ;-)

*shudder* Well that's disturbing. 

[Kryyptehk]

CaitlynRoe wrote...

Where in the game did it say that Alistair was sleeping with Leliana? I saw it mentioned here a couple times but missed the reference in the game.

In a codex in DC is mentions that there is a rumor that Leliana is Alistair's lover.

[Axekix]

CaitlynRoe wrote...



Where in the game did it say that Alistair was sleeping with Leliana? I saw it mentioned here a couple times but missed the reference in the game.

It's under Leliana's codex entry.

[CaitlynRoe]

Oh. For some reason Leliana didn't get a codex entry in my game. I thought it was odd at the time.

[Axekix]

Yeah you only seem to get the codex entry if someone in your party lands the KB. I missed Cauthrien and Barkspawn my first time through.

[CaitlynRoe]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

[Merilsell]

The reason is simple, really. Reading her Codex entry gives you the answer:

[sassperella]

nvm

Modifié par sassperella, 21 mai 2010 - 05:18 .

[Vicious]

She's in it for the lulz because he never outright booted her out the party. At the end she approached him with the ritual and since he had something to live for [Leliana] he took it.



Not that it helped him, really. But it was agaisnt him from the start.



There was no 'other' Warden except Riordan. Alistair was apparently so full of himself that he did not conscript any more Wardens, and also killed Loghain when the opportunity presented itself, leaving him as the only Grey Warden in Ferelden and thus painting a huge target on his head. It didn't help that he was the King as well. Literally, in those circumstances, all they had to do was kill him AND kill Riordan and that was it - Ferelden would fall.



And that's what would have happened.



Later on, the Orlesian Warden shows up and kills the Archdemon, and Ferelden becomes part of Orlais [again.] since the Theirin line was ended, and it lacked anyone who had an inkling of how to fight Orlesian armies, since, Alistair had killed Loghain to satisfy his need for revenge at an earlier point.



In short, Alistair literally screws up everything without the PC's help, and that's what the Darkspawn Chronicles represents.



That, and killing people for teh lulz.

[Sarah1281]

Alistair was apparently so full of himself that he did not conscript any more Wardens, and also killed Loghain when the opportunity presented itself, leaving him as the only Grey Warden in Ferelden and thus painting a huge target on his head.

Did Alistair have an opportunity to conscript anyone besides Loghain? He didn't know how to do the Joining and Riordan's supplies were commandeered.

[Lintanis]

Its not really going to have any bearing on the storyline lol, DC is just made up as a joke and think someone got bored and messed around with the Darkspawn graphics and thought wow this make a really good DLC

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Vicious wrote...


In short, Alistair literally screws up everything without the PC's help, and that's what the Darkspawn Chronicles represents.

That, and killing people for teh lulz.

More like it represents a universe that contains an Alistair, Morrigan, and others that are so far removed from our own, that they are unlikely even the same people.

I mean, Alistair saving the anvil, slaughtering the Dalish, kicking it with Howe as his new homeboy...Morrigan following him on a suicide mission for the lulz....

Me thinks not. If Alistair would have screwed this universe up, he would have done so in a very different way.

[old book]

Your PC would have died, Ser Jory would have survived, and Alistair would have let him take the lead. Then they'd have gotten lost in the Brecilian Forest until Ban Teagan sent someone to find them just before the Landsmeet.

[Tinxa]

Who says Morrigan even knows about the ritual in this alternate universe? I doubt Alistair would run around looking for her magic books and confronted Flemeth for her. He doesn't even find the ashes for the Arl.

[Costin_Razvan]

Morrigan knows about the Ritual since you leave Flemeth's hut.

[Nerdage]

old book wrote...

Your PC would have died, Ser Jory would have survived, and Alistair would have let him take the lead. Then they'd have gotten lost in the Brecilian Forest until Ban Teagan sent someone to find them just before the Landsmeet.

Or they find a dalish clan, Jory says something stupid and tactless and they fill him with arrows. Either way, I wouldn't trust Jory to find his way up a set of stairs...

[Kryyptehk]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Morrigan knows about the Ritual since you leave Flemeth's hut.

This. Also, I think the biggest hint that this DLC is fail is because Morrigan stayed the entire time. If Morrigan dislikes you and you don't kill her mother, she leaves. Why would she stay with a man who so utterly f-ed everything up? As the codex said, for the lulz. Which is not like Morrigan at all. She repeatedly says how incompetent Alistair is in regular DA, why would she think any different in DC? She could have left and then came back before the battle like she does in DA.

But I don't think DC is supposed to be taken seriously, so that's why I'm not facepalming.