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[RyanLimTL]

I have a Fujitsu S series 6311B Notebook with a Mobile Intel ® 945GM Express Chipset Family Display Adapter, the requirement to play Dragon Age Origins is a NVIDIA Geforce 6600 GT 128 MB or greater graphic card, short of buying a new computer, is there a way to install a grapic card into a laptop or some software to meet the requirement? Thanks in advance.

Ryan

[SethisKai]

Depends on the Laptop, but im not really into "pocket-pc's". Software cannot simulate missing grafic adapters. At least i never heard of it.

[jayheld90]

short answer, no. you cannot augment it with any software...that just shows you dont know anything about pc's to begin with. secondly, the likelyhood of being able to install an aftermarket graphics card into a laptop is very slim (as only certain ones can do that). so, short of a new desktop...(or comparable laptop) you wont be able to play.

[ZootCadillac]

jayheld90 wrote...

short answer, no. you cannot augment it with any software...that just shows you dont know anything about pc's to begin with. secondly, the likelyhood of being able to install an aftermarket graphics card into a laptop is very slim (as only certain ones can do that). so, short of a new desktop...(or comparable laptop) you wont be able to play.

So because the gentleman is not knowledgeable about laptop hardware this is a reason for you to jump on him with belittling statements? Are we to assume that because you obviously are so much more knowledgeable that you are infinitely 'better' than the rest?

You might want to consider how childish your 'position of superiority' that you have adopted here looks th the grown-ups amongst us.

For the OP. Unfortunately the integrated intel GPU chipset is not a gaming gpu and will not run intensive, 3D games.
You will have to find another machine to play the PC version of te game on. Sorry.

[Gorath Alpha]

Dell and Sager are both lenient about video card upgrades, *WHEN* youy already have some sort of actual video card installed in their laptops.  Even they cannot upgrade what the OP has.  If there is nothing other than an onboard video chip, there isn't even an empty space inside where a card might go now. 

TTBOMK, not one of the three proposed external video card expansion boxes have made the jump from engineering and preview samples into full scale production.  The one that came closest was going to cost almost as much as a Netbook (not including the cost and inconvenience of tying down the laptop to a desktop system's display), and I think that the response from the potential buyers was so small that the project was cancelled. 

P. S. I have in the past come upon a tech forum of hobbyists who enjoy assembling circuits and accessories, and are working toward accumulating a few parts with which to build such an expansion box themselves, very inexpensively.  I believe it is or was their intention to figure out how to import the signal from the exnsion box's video card back to the laptop's own screen.  Any laptop owners who are also handy with a soldering iron may want to run some searches to try to find the hobbyist site that was involved in that project.

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 09 novembre 2009 - 03:12 .

[jayheld90]

ZootCadillac wrote...

jayheld90 wrote...

short answer, no. you cannot augment it with any software...that just shows you dont know anything about pc's to begin with. secondly, the likelyhood of being able to install an aftermarket graphics card into a laptop is very slim (as only certain ones can do that). so, short of a new desktop...(or comparable laptop) you wont be able to play.

So because the gentleman is not knowledgeable about laptop hardware this is a reason for you to jump on him with belittling statements? Are we to assume that because you obviously are so much more knowledgeable that you are infinitely 'better' than the rest?

You might want to consider how childish your 'position of superiority' that you have adopted here looks th the grown-ups amongst us.

For the OP. Unfortunately the integrated intel GPU chipset is not a gaming gpu and will not run intensive, 3D games.
You will have to find another machine to play the PC version of te game on. Sorry.

you are so hilarious, i wasnt belittling him in any way. a simple search in google and he wouldnt have had to embarass himself. dont make this into a flame war, just because i may have told him in a condescending way. just for the record, i dont think i am better than anyone else, but it helps to have common sense.

[ZootCadillac]

jayheld90 wrote...



you are so hilarious, i wasnt belittling him in any way. a simple search in google and he wouldnt have had to embarass himself. dont make this into a flame war, just because i may have told him in a condescending way. just for the record, i dont think i am better than anyone else, but it helps to have common sense.

Oh so now he's embarrassed himself eh? Can't you just offer whatever help you think you have without trying to big up your position?

I've never mentioned before that I have 2 BSc Honours, one being in computer installation, networking and software support because you know? It does not matter what people think of me or what I know. If I can help I will. I'll not try and humiliate somebody because they don't know as much as I do about certain subjects.

As for flame war? I'm 44 years old. I 'm not interested in such things, I'm just telling you to grow up.

[SethisKai]

ZootCadillac wrote...

jayheld90 wrote...



you are so hilarious, i wasnt belittling him in any way. a simple search in google and he wouldnt have had to embarass himself. dont make this into a flame war, just because i may have told him in a condescending way. just for the record, i dont think i am better than anyone else, but it helps to have common sense.

Oh so now he's embarrassed himself eh? Can't you just offer whatever help you think you have without trying to big up your position?

I've never mentioned before that I have 2 BSc Honours, one being in computer installation, networking and software support because you know? It does not matter what people think of me or what I know. If I can help I will. I'll not try and humiliate somebody because they don't know as much as I do about certain subjects.

As for flame war? I'm 44 years old. I 'm not interested in such things, I'm just telling you to grow up.

Well, you do flame now though. Either way, this topic has gotten kind of pointless since the OP already got his answer.

[jayheld90]

ZootCadillac wrote...

jayheld90 wrote...



you are so hilarious, i wasnt belittling him in any way. a simple search in google and he wouldnt have had to embarass himself. dont make this into a flame war, just because i may have told him in a condescending way. just for the record, i dont think i am better than anyone else, but it helps to have common sense.

Oh so now he's embarrassed himself eh? Can't you just offer whatever help you think you have without trying to big up your position?

I've never mentioned before that I have 2 BSc Honours, one being in computer installation, networking and software support because you know? It does not matter what people think of me or what I know. If I can help I will. I'll not try and humiliate somebody because they don't know as much as I do about certain subjects.

As for flame war? I'm 44 years old. I 'm not interested in such things, I'm just telling you to grow up.

if you weren't interested in "such things" you wouldnt have made that post. i believe you are in denial...also, i wasnt posting stats or schooling or my age. i WAS trying to help and if you didnt like my way of helping, which in no way tried to show that i had some kind of "status" above him/her, i really dont care.

[RyanLimTL]

Thanks for all the replies, I'll ask fujitsu if a graphic card slot is available in the mother board and if a graphic card can be inserted into it. If not, i guess i'll have to find a better PC.

[Gorath Alpha]

RyanLimTL wrote...

Thanks for all the replies, I'll ask fujitsu if a graphic card slot is available in the mother board and if a graphic card can be inserted into it. If not, i guess i'll have to find a better PC.

Although I don't want to either come across as overly pessimistic, I also don't want to be carelessly optimistic, and the real facts are that only a tiny percentage of the total of laptops out there can accept a video upgrade, so don't bet the mortgage on it, OK?  Meanwhile, a caution:

You need to be much more SPECIFIC, really, since just any video card at all is as likely to be useless as it is to be useful.  Mainline gaming cards have a performance code number in the name of "600" or more (such as HD 4650). Ordinary business graphics cards have slow core speeds, slow RAM, and only a limited number of shader processors.  That's why a "400" or "500" card is too slow for gaming use. 

P> S.  I see the late-added comment about running the game with an Intel IGP device. 

Generally, it is my attitude that the
very best that the most advanced Intel video chip can do simply
isn't good enough.  That is a personal opinion, but it comes from a
game player and system builder with experience pre-dating any desktop
computer release.  However, there's a whole new video rendering world
on the horizon.  This is from my discussion in another message thread:

ATI's Xpress1100 (and 1200) were both based on the same X300 that the
Xpress200 was, and none of them offered SM3 pixel shader functions,
which are at least required in part by this game (the high end Xn00
cards did have the "first notch" of SM3, not the full level). 

Similar
to almost any other "IGP" (Integrated Graphics Processor), even if the
OP's onboard chip was the Radeon X1270 device, based on the X1300, it
would be too slow, whether it had the SM3 shaders or not.  Ordinary
IGPs are basically the bare minimum. 

The reason that the word
"ordinary" was used just now is the comparatively imminent arrival of a
variety of new types of video devices that differ from either ordinary
onboard chips or from the current add-on circuit board "cards".  Intel
has been first to market, but isn't really offering much. 

Both
AMD and Intel will be selling what AMD refers to as an APU (Accelerated
Processing Unit), which integrates a full power GPU into the CPU
itself.  Those will be available for end-user purchase in about two
years.  Intel currently sells i5s with a different onboard
arrangement.  The video chip isn't integrated at all; it shares the
packaging with the CPU.  It was upgraded somewhat, and with the
improvement in CPU to video device communication, is able to match the
ATI and nVIDIA IGPs on some benchmarks, for the first time. 

But it's not at all a full power GPU. 


Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 14 février 2010 - 05:21 .

[ThrakenSal]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

RyanLimTL wrote...

Thanks for all the replies, I'll ask fujitsu if a graphic card slot is available in the mother board and if a graphic card can be inserted into it. If not, i guess i'll have to find a better PC.

Although I don't want to either come across as overly pessimistic, I also don't want to be carelessly optimistic, and the real facts are that only a tiny percentage of the total of laptops out there can accept a video upgrade, so don't bet the mortgage on it, OK?  Meanwhile, a caution:

You need to be much more SPECIFIC, really, since just any video card at all is as likely to be useless as it is to be useful.  Mainline gaming cards have a performance code number in the name of "600" or more (such as HD 4650). Ordinary business graphics cards have slow core speeds, slow RAM, and only a limited number of shader processors.  That's why a "400" or "500" card is too slow for gaming use. 

Gorath
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Unfortunately, I have to agree. Most laptops are so proprietary that there isn't a real chance of putting a new video card into it to make it a gamer. The lower end the laptop the higher the probability it isn't going to be able to upgrade. I myself have an Alienware m5500 Laptop that is 4 years old and has an MxM slot with a GeForce 6600 GT go in it, but that is the only card compatible to fit this particular laptop. and believe me it still won't handle DA:O just not enough juice in the 6600gt to be able to play well.

[GenDragonArm]

All Ican say is I'm running the game just fine on a Dell Inspiron 1525 with an integrated Intel video card. Yeah, some parts are a bit laggy, but I'm on my 3rd play through, so I'm not having any serious issues.