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[Cpl_Facehugger]

Thinking about it, I don't really think the Turians are in the right at all. Moreover, I think this because I think the council's laws are foolish in the extreme. Yes, the rachni war happened because people opened up mass relays. But how can you know whether some other race (we'll call them super duper rachni) wouldn't open up their relay and invade? At least by exploring the relay network, you can *know* there's a threat out there, rather than sticking your head in the sand and hoping the hypothetical threat species doesn't open their relay and begin expanding aggressively.

[Spartas Husky]

no biggie. We can always kill the merchant after we get the merchandise...the we get the money back, and the weapon. Everyone wins.....well mostly

[mosor]

Turians obviously.



1. No attempt at communication.



2. No warning shots



Lets face it. A turian solution to a problem is to shoot at it.

[lovgreno]

Spartas Husky wrote...

no biggie. We can always kill the merchant after we get the merchandise...the we get the money back, and the weapon. Everyone wins.....well mostly

From a commercial point of wiev: Today profit, tomorrow we will be at the wrong side of a turian dreadnought. But I will leave military decisions to the professionals of course.
The volus weapon merchants was probably the only ones who could truly be counted as winners the 314 conflict. That's how it usualy goes.

[Spartas Husky]

True. But like it said in dark corners, Is not your fault unless you get caught. dreadnaught is a big target, but very very clunky. I would surely take my chances with one, after all my plan is to outrun it not to outgun it

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 25 mai 2010 - 12:50 .

[shoulderfish]

I think it was mostly the turians' fault. Like someone on the first page said -- you can take the gun away from the child, but you don't shoot them with it. I disagree with the people who say humans were at fault for opening the mass relay, though. You don't find something like that and ignore it just because it maybe could be dangerous. Like what Shepard said about Grunt. It's either a time bomb or an asset. It's a gamble, but a necessary one.

[lovgreno]

It's not your fault unless you get caught, yes that is a popular strategy among us suits (as the recent financial crisis clearly proves). But not nearly as usefull as minimising risks of course. I would rather have a turian dreadnought aiming at my enemies rather than at me though. Especialy if I can sell element zero to fuel it.

[GreenDragon37]

Even though both sides are at fault to some degree, I think the Turians were more in the wrong. I can understand the Scout floatilla, but was Shanxi really necessary?! No attempt to communicate, no plans for peace, just go in and kill, kill, kill! The Turians were kinda douchebags in this regard. They were too brutal.

Plus, everytime I think about Shanxi, I can't stop thinking about this:

http://www.halowars....pt08_2_1024.jpg 

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 25 mai 2010 - 01:22 .

[Spartas Husky]

lovgreno wrote...

It's not your fault unless you get caught, yes that is a popular strategy among us suits (as the recent financial crisis clearly proves). But not nearly as usefull as minimising risks of course. I would rather have a turian dreadnought aiming at my enemies rather than at me though. Especialy if I can sell element zero to fuel it.

True, but certainly the audacity of saying...yes I did it but I aint going to return it (as recent financial people have), go towards the problem, make its advantage and turn it upside down.
Outrunning a dreadnought is easier if your heading for it, than away from it.

But why get rid of the enemies. If they see your in trouble they'll come out of their hidie holes on their own, like moles ready to be wacked. Saves me the trouble later to go hunting.

[lovgreno]

Spartas Husky wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

It's not your fault unless you get caught, yes that is a popular strategy among us suits (as the recent financial crisis clearly proves). But not nearly as usefull as minimising risks of course. I would rather have a turian dreadnought aiming at my enemies rather than at me though. Especialy if I can sell element zero to fuel it.

True, but certainly the audacity of saying...yes I did it but I aint going to return it (as recent financial people have), go towards the problem, make its advantage and turn it upside down.
Outrunning a dreadnought is easier if your heading for it, than away from it.

But why get rid of the enemies. If they see your in trouble they'll come out of their hidie holes on their own, like moles ready to be wacked. Saves me the trouble later to go hunting.

I admit its very tempting to make your own rules like that. But sadly it's almost always (certanly in finance) just pure incompetence. If you should "miss" some terrorists heading for those numbskulls I sure wouldn't complain, you would be doind us all a favor in the long run. Taking things slow, safe, bending the rules as little as possible and especialy keep the popularity HIGH is the way to to win in trade and finance. But things are different in the military of course, I know very little about how you work.
It wouldn't suprise me if the turians hides stealthed Normandy type of frigates around their dreadnoughts. The turian military is simply so good it's not worth the risk messing with them.
How about hiding a frigate behind a merchant ship in the Terminus system? And do some batarian pirate whack a mole. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

[Spartas Husky]

I, dont worry about how I work. I never actually have had any field experience, all I have had have been training excersices, simulations........kind a got lots of bad points for disregarding ROE....always got extra luggage for checking my targets but....not giving a damn about them. For the higher ups, shooting a hostage is a no no. Then again the pals to my right and left dont seem to care, so is all good .



ANyways, last time I check, normandy is recently been made, like 2 yrs on the field??....takes a cruisers money to be built. Dont think the conservative non risky venture of the turian culture would allow them to field a normandy like vessel at least for a decade. They owe their financial power only to the Volus....which now that I think of it, is easier to attack something is not actually fully under your control. Volus are merchants at heart... like pups their loyalty lie where the meat is being held .



But no, I dont really am the flying or navy type, I rather prefer long range rifles....only weapon I know you can be sure not to hit somebody by accident, and it doesn't leave a crater or something else lying around...

[lovgreno]

Well what else can higher up do? Everything is political, for good or worse. A little "constructive" way of reading the rules are often a good thing though. But it's probably best if we don't talk about it in most situations. Politics, politics politics.



True but the Normandy project was as much turian as it was human. When it comes to military things the turians are certanly skilled if anyone is. And their close allies the asari and salarians makes up for the conservative sides of the turian culture. Partly to volus but also to asari and salarians. The turians holds a piece of meat way bigger and reliable than anything the humans can offer. I realy wouldn't mess with the volus anyway, the world of ME is ruled by money and information rather than guns, quite like our real world. Volus can realy use that against you. Politics.



Saving ammo and keeping a low profile sounds like a good long run strategy. And when you think about what planes and boats costs compared to what they actualy do I would say that long ranged rifles are the better investment.

[Spartas Husky]

Yawn...just woke up after a nice 11 hr sleep...damn that is good.



Yep everything is politicis, and those boynd by it will suffer more casualties than they need. Total war is the only war that soldiers have their lives in their own hands, anything besides that, soldiers are just there to maintain public support.



m3h duno about the turians, going as far as to get anothe race to be your account consultant is pretty extreme. But who knows. Still they got no carriers, so muhahahaha lol