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[Seagloom]

Dig up all those Atari 2600 cartridges of E.T. that were buried in the desert and use them to plug up the spill site. I'll donate my copy too! See how generous I am? 

Modifié par Seagloom, 25 mai 2010 - 09:25 .

[Dark Lilith]

Busomjack wrote...

-ßeta- wrote...

Anything BP would never do would probably do the trick.

BP will probably think of a solution.  They have subsidized risk management afterall so they don't have to worry about the cost of any clean up operation hurting their profits.  No, all that cost will just shift on the taxpayers.

BP has already said they will foot the bill,you dive down and do that swallow thingy,that will work, right?

[FutureBoy81]

How about investing in alternate energy source's and severly limiting the use of fossil fuel's leading to less drilling ......

[Loerwyn]

FutureBoy81 wrote...

How about investing in alternate energy source's and severly limiting the use of fossil fuel's leading to less drilling ......

Sadly, that doesn't stop an oil spill that's already occured/is occuring.

[FutureBoy81]

Busomjack wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Leave it alone. Obviously if God didn't want the oil to keep gushing out he'd miracle the hole shut.

I agree, we should leave it alone.  We should just let the free market regulate itself.  Hell, we should give BP another tax break.
Who cares if they made 67 billion dollars in profit last year?  If we had cut their taxes more then maybe they would've self-regulated themselves to impose the safety standards on their oil rigs which they successfully lobbied against for years.
We really should lay off BP's back.  I mean, sure they don't hire American workers and pollute our coastlands but that is the price we pay for the luxury of driving our Hummer H2's with "drill baby drill" bumper stickers.

What I would do is I would relieve BP of any financial culpability and have the government subsidize all risks and damages that BP and every other oil company takes so that the price of the damage they cause is shifted onto the taxpayers rather than the oil companies.

Oh wait...we already do that.  So ok, yeah we shouldn't do anything.

Ohhh Busomjack, the voice of reason Brilliant post ....

[FutureBoy81]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

FutureBoy81 wrote...

How about investing in alternate energy source's and severly limiting the use of fossil fuel's leading to less drilling ......

Sadly, that doesn't stop an oil spill that's already occured/is occuring.

Well it would prevent future occurence's, and if had been in place prior probably would have prevented them from drilling with shoddy equipment because the rig would have been shut down, i say just set some dynamite off to callapse the dirt around the pipe's but that would shut them down and prevent them from making money sad for them  ......

[Dark Lilith]

[Loerwyn]

FutureBoy81 wrote...
Well it would prevent future occurence's, and if had been in place prior probably would have prevented them from drilling with shoddy equipment because the rig would have been shut down, i say just set some dynamite off to callapse the dirt around the pipe's but that would shut them down and prevent them from making money sad for them  ......

No, it would prevent it happening in places that aren't already drilled.
Oil, as it stands, is a vital resource in the modern world. For right or for wrong, that's the unavoidable truth and as such it's going to be harvested. No one wants nuclear power because they think Chernobyl will happen again even though that was a steam explosion caused by various avoidable factors.

[Busomjack]

Dark Lilith wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

-ßeta- wrote...

Anything BP would never do would probably do the trick.

BP will probably think of a solution.  They have subsidized risk management afterall so they don't have to worry about the cost of any clean up operation hurting their profits.  No, all that cost will just shift on the taxpayers.

BP has already said they will foot the bill,you dive down and do that swallow thingy,that will work, right?

You actually believe them?  They already have lobbyists and politicians fighting on their behalf against efforts to make them fully pay for the oil spill.
Current cap holds them liable for only 75 million even though the extent of the damage coule be over 20 billion dollars or more.

http://tpmmuckraker....ke_industry.php

Not exactly sure what the oil industry did to earn your sacred trust.

[Busomjack]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

FutureBoy81 wrote...

How about investing in alternate energy source's and severly limiting the use of fossil fuel's leading to less drilling ......

Sadly, that doesn't stop an oil spill that's already occured/is occuring.

This isn't just about our addiction to fossil fuels, it's also about private interest supersceding the safety of consumers, workers and our environment.
BP fought against safety measures and regulations including a remote system that would've allowed workers to clamp shut the wellhead even after a leak.
BP said themselves and I quote...

"We believe industry's current safety and environmental statistics
demonstrate that the voluntary programs…continue to be very successful."

We left these idiots in charge and thanks to our faith in their ability to self-regulate we have on our hands the worst ecological disaster in human history.
People have died and more people will die as a result of this oil spill so it is appropriate to call offshore drilling regulation a national security issue.  If ever government were to have just one role it is protecting the lives of it's citizens.  Even an Ayn Rand worshipper would agree with that.

Modifié par Busomjack, 25 mai 2010 - 11:52 .

[Dark Lilith]

Busomjack wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

-ßeta- wrote...

Anything BP would never do would probably do the trick.

BP will probably think of a solution.  They have subsidized risk management afterall so they don't have to worry about the cost of any clean up operation hurting their profits.  No, all that cost will just shift on the taxpayers.

BP has already said they will foot the bill,you dive down and do that swallow thingy,that will work, right?

You actually believe them?  They already have lobbyists and politicians fighting on their behalf against efforts to make them fully pay for the oil spill.
Current cap holds them liable for only 75 million even though the extent of the damage coule be over 20 billion dollars or more.

http://tpmmuckraker....ke_industry.php

Not exactly sure what the oil industry did to earn your sacred trust.

they paid me off to post here for them!

[Tirigon]

It is time for the oil age to end. Time to move on to alternative, regenerative energy.

[Loerwyn]

Busomjack wrote...
This isn't just about our addiction to fossil fuels, it's also about private interest supersceding the safety of consumers, workers and our environment.
BP fought against safety measures and regulations including a remote system that would've allowed workers to clamp shut the wellhead even after a leak.
BP said themselves and I quote...

"We believe industry's current safety and environmental statistics
demonstrate that the voluntary programs…continue to be very successful."

We left these idiots in charge and thanks to our faith in their ability to self-regulate we have on our hands the worst ecological disaster in human history.
People have died and more people will die as a result of this oil spill so it is appropriate to call oil rig regulation a national security issue.  If ever government were to have just one role it is protecting the lives of it's citizens.  Even an Ayn Rand worshipper would agree with that.

Please. Please. PLEASE stop posting. You're like Michael Moore on acid.

[Tirigon]

Busomjack wrote...


This isn't just about our addiction to fossil fuels, it's also about private interest supersceding the safety of consumers, workers and our environment.
BP fought against safety measures and regulations including a remote system that would've allowed workers to clamp shut the wellhead even after a leak.
BP said themselves and I quote...

"We believe industry's current safety and environmental statistics
demonstrate that the voluntary programs…continue to be very successful."

We left these idiots in charge and thanks to our faith in their ability to self-regulate we have on our hands the worst ecological disaster in human history.
People have died and more people will die as a result of this oil spill so it is appropriate to call offshore drilling regulation a national security issue.  If ever government were to have just one role it is protecting the lives of it's citizens.  Even an Ayn Rand worshipper would agree with that.

It´s called CAPITALISM. Means, money is more important than people or the environment.

[FutureBoy81]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

FutureBoy81 wrote...
Well it would prevent future occurence's, and if had been in place prior probably would have prevented them from drilling with shoddy equipment because the rig would have been shut down, i say just set some dynamite off to callapse the dirt around the pipe's but that would shut them down and prevent them from making money sad for them  ......

No, it would prevent it happening in places that aren't already drilled.
Oil, as it stands, is a vital resource in the modern world. For right or for wrong, that's the unavoidable truth and as such it's going to be harvested. No one wants nuclear power because they think Chernobyl will happen again even though that was a steam explosion caused by various avoidable factors.

Thats not a fact, if regulations and standards were being kept this could have been avoided, its because of greed not need that we are over comsuming natural resources, there have been so many break throughs in alternative energy sources, its just that the government refuses to make them economically viable for the general public because of all the oil money tied into our economy and government  ..

Modifié par FutureBoy81, 25 mai 2010 - 11:55 .

[Dark Lilith]

Tirigon wrote...

It is time for the oil age to end. Time to move on to alternative, regenerative energy.

lets burn wood and re-instate nuclear power, also burn peat bogs

[Tirigon]

Dark Lilith wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

It is time for the oil age to end. Time to move on to alternative, regenerative energy.

lets burn wood and re-instate nuclear power, also burn peat bogs

No wood-burning.

Too inefficient. Nuclear energy, solar energy and wind energy. Also, we need more research in advanced technologies such as anti-matter.

[Busomjack]

FutureBoy81 wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

FutureBoy81 wrote...
Well it would prevent future occurence's, and if had been in place prior probably would have prevented them from drilling with shoddy equipment because the rig would have been shut down, i say just set some dynamite off to callapse the dirt around the pipe's but that would shut them down and prevent them from making money sad for them  ......

No, it would prevent it happening in places that aren't already drilled.
Oil, as it stands, is a vital resource in the modern world. For right or for wrong, that's the unavoidable truth and as such it's going to be harvested. No one wants nuclear power because they think Chernobyl will happen again even though that was a steam explosion caused by various avoidable factors.

Thats not a fact, if regulations and standards were being kept this could have been avoided, its because of greed not need that we are over comsuming natural resources, there have been so many break throughs in alternative energy sources, its just that the government refuses to make them economically viable for the general public because of all the oil money tied into our economy and government  ..

I agree.  As I stated earlier BP fought against the very safety measures which were designed to curtail disasters of this magnitude.
They have so much influence that congress cannot even raise their damage liability beyond 75 million.  75 million dollars is all they have to pay in a disaster that has already caused 20 billion dollars worth of damage?!

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?  This is a company which posted a record 67 billion dollars in profits last year and they only have to pay 75 million?!

Onlyshadow89.  Do not compare me to Michael Moore, I am a conservative.

Modifié par Busomjack, 26 mai 2010 - 12:01 .

[smecky-kitteh]

Dark Lilith wrote...

can I haz one in blue?

[Dark Lilith]

Tirigon wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

It is time for the oil age to end. Time to move on to alternative, regenerative energy.

lets burn wood and re-instate nuclear power, also burn peat bogs

No wood-burning.

Too inefficient. Nuclear energy, solar energy and wind energy. Also, we need more research in advanced technologies such as anti-matter.

watching the flames in a wood stove or fire place is relaxing and romantic,burn wood

[Busomjack]

Pertaining to the original poster's question, I believe the best thing we can do right now is drill a relief well. It's going to take weeks but it may be all we can do in the wake of this apocalypse.



I can't tell you how depressed I am over this situation. This I think is even worse than 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina.

I weep for my nation.

[Dark Lilith]

smecky-kitteh wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

can I haz one in blue?

[Tirigon]

Dark Lilith wrote...

watching the flames in a wood stove or fire place is relaxing and romantic,burn wood

True.


Also, make love, not war!