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[PARAGON87]

cachx wrote...

There used to be a great videogame saga set in space that got a movie adaptation

I don't care about what anybody thinks of this film, I played the old Orion Systems games and I still liked the movie.  Pretty underrated if you asked me.

[Morbo]

A Mass Effect film could be good I guess as long as it's a fairly loose adaptation. Can't see a more direct adaptation ending up as anything other than horrible.
Have a Shepard-like main guy on a Normandy-like ship and a Reaper-y threat (ah yes, "Reapers"), and then just spin a fun story of its own around those. Well that or have the film be about Blasto!

And as for the Prince of Persia film which a few people mentioned here...saw it last week and it's the first game based film that I actually love. It may not be best film award winning stuff, but it's great old-fashioned popcorn-munching fun. So maybe there's hope.

[AirborneMind]

smore006 wrote...

AirborneMind wrote...

This announcement makes me very nervous, and it'll make me more so if they decide that the film should feature the same story as the video games. Shepard is a lot of things to me, and (s)he's a lot of things to other people on this forum. And because of that, I think there's a lot of dangerous potential to alienate our experience with the video game. Let me explain. (this post is going to get very philosophical, so if you aren't into that, skip it)

So often when we are told a story--whether it be through film, print or videogame--everything is in the hands of the storytellers. When I read a book, all the intellectual property belongs to the author: the mythology, the story, everything. When I play a Final Fantasy game, all the characters--even the ones I'm playing--belong the the folks at Square Enix; they are not mine. 

But Bioware does something I feel is revolutionary. They entrust me with the main character. And with that main character, I can change the events of the story as I see fit. They've said it themselves: when they make games, it's the player's story. It's what makes all of their games special. In Mass Effect, many things belong to Bioware. The technology, the species, all of those are theirs. Characters like Garrus and Joker look and behave as the good people at Bioware have determined they will--they are also theirs. But Shepard is different, Shepard says what I want Shepard to say, looks how I want Shepard to look. There is an unspoken contract between me and Bioware that Shepard is mine.

But if they go out and make a movie and do so little as to assign Shepard a gender, they will have taken that away from me, they will have broken that contract. Suddenly Shepard will be their character. And I will never feel the same about my Shepards because of it.

While i can understand the attitude, i still have to disagree. Bioware does not give you the control over the character as you describe. You can't have Shepard do whatever you want and he won't do exactly what you (or i) would. What Bioware does (and does well) is that they create the illusion of control for the player. Be not mistaken that the story of the Mass Effect games is pre-fixed one, with a few more or less different endings, and the player able to change some variables in order to create said illusion.

It doesn't matter which squadmate died on Virmire, if you took the Renegade way or if you spared the Council. The end is the same.
It doesn't matter which squadmate dies during the assault of the Collector base, whether or not you allied yourself with TIM, the end is the same again, with a few variables. You might and (most probably do) lock yourself out of some story branches of ME3, you might (and won't) not meet some people again, but the end will be the same one which Bioware wants to tell us. 

The question is not what will Shepard do, it's rather how s(he) will do it and only that's what ultimately matters from a gamers' perspective.

As for the movie, i don't care what it will be about, as far it's done right. Even in the games it's enough variables to mix up, they can tell Shepard's story once again and it can still be unique. True, we would all know how it ends, but wouldn't we know that if it was a prequel? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie] 
Don't we know the end of most every movie we watch? Of course we do, but we watch them anyway. Why? Because in these cases, it's not the end, the means is what matters. Not the 'what?', but the 'how?' [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie] 

I never said Shepard can do whatever you or I want. I'm fully aware that all of my choices are given within the confines of the game. For too many reasons, a player will never have full control of a character: the technology is limited, there's only so many hours that can be spent on writing and voice acting, and not to mention you could never tell any kind of story if a player could make Shepard sit on his ass and drink beer saying "I give up" (although the game has damn near given you that option too). So of course there are limits. But that doesn't mean they haven't given me a lot of freedom to define Shepard's psychological profile (well beyond the whole ruthless/suvivor/hero choice).

And I'm well aware that this control is an illusion. All of fiction is based on illusion. But there is an agreement between storytellers and those experiencing the story to pretend otherwise. Bioware is creating a story--one of many in fact--and trying to make it all as real as possible. And we, the gamer, while we're playing the game, are going to pretend that these people are real, that the events in the story actually did happen to them. Without that pretense, why would we care? As a reader (books, comics, whatever) and a viewer (television, film), I want characters I can care about, engage with, believe in. If I don't find them in the work, I'm going to lose interest very quickly. Even though I know such creations are just fictions, I will nonetheless begin to care very deeply.

So you're arguing that these decisions don't matter because our different roads lead us to the same destination. But I disagree. It matters to the characters in the narrative, and because I care about them, all of those decisions matter to me. And of all those things that matter to me, who Shepard "is" is the one that's most personal.

Modifié par AirborneMind, 25 mai 2010 - 11:57 .

[Icinix]

PARAGON87 wrote...

cachx wrote...

There used to be a great videogame saga set in space that got a movie adaptation

(Image of Wing Commander - Edited out for spam)

I don't care about what anybody thinks of this film, I played the old Orion Systems games and I still liked the movie.  Pretty underrated if you asked me.

I like Saffron Burrows, does that count?

[Valad Amolen]

Wouldn't it be great if they actually took the opportunity to make this into part of the Mass Effect canon. Except I'm pretty certain we can all be sure it's just going to be another rubbish game adaptation.

[Burdokva]

Why, BioWare?! Really, why, an absolutely serious question? Do we need yet another flopped live-action movie based on a fantastic game series? And, really, what's this obsession with live-action and cramming "stars" in it?!

Am I the only one who would prefer a CGI movie (either way, the "live-action" piece will have a tremendous amount of CGI and greenscreen sets in it) with the original cast? I don't and can't care for any actors playing the characters, regardless of whether or not they're excellent, or I'm their fan - they're just not Shepard, Ashley, Garrus, Miranda, Liara... take whoever else you'd like.

I would like to see Mass Effect as a movie. Correction, I would love to. To be able to share the story with friends who rarely or do not play games. But if it's not going to be fateful to the games... meh, there's no point.

Finally, I think this is against the concept that Mass Effect was going to be our personal adventure. That each Shepard is unique, yet "canon" in his/her own way. That there's not necessarily "bad" or "good" players, only different ways they resolve the problem. So, what now? A canon story, against everything you said previously? 

The IGN article certainly made me fee that this is going to be yet another superhero movie that will choke down simplified moral superiority and values, worthy of a fifth grader, down my throat...

Modifié par Burdokva, 25 mai 2010 - 12:32 .

[Tyreal42a]

I hope the movie is about the adventures of the turian councilor, air quoting his way across the galaxy.

[Thomas9321]

This will only be good if it's a Garrus biopic. Also, I just became terrified for Dragon Age. I just hope Mass Effect 3 comes out first, before the franchise is ruined.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Ecael wrote...

The producers behind The Dark Knight and Spider-Man are teaming for Mass Effect, a live-action, big screen adaptation of the Electronic Arts-BioWare videogame.

Shepard superhero film? Epic trilogy incoming...

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I seriously want to see the movie if it comes out.

[birdland 1115]

I just hope it occurs outside of the Commander Shepard story arc. If it's not MY SHEPARD on screen I don't want to see it.



I'd be cool with something akin to the novels though

[Armatyr]

i hope this perhaps tells the prequel of the story where they discover the relays on mars. of course that may ruin a future prequel release as a game

[JellyfishCommando]

I hope it's about the first contact war and humanity discovering the prothean ruins on Mars...and stuff.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Armatyr wrote...

i hope this perhaps tells the prequel of the story where they discover the relays on mars. of course that may ruin a future prequel release as a game

maybe not. could do a prequel release of the game even after a movie's setting as a prequel, but it'd be really interesting to see the Galactic Alliance Citadel in a movie (unless they can work that into the whole prequel theme of a movie... humans first usage of a Mass Relay with the Citadel as the first destination... could do some type of 60years later feat within the movie's prequel story; as the Citadel become more diversely populated with human settlement, to have the Citadel as a main scene or something).

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 25 mai 2010 - 01:30 .

[Fredvdp]

This could be great or this could suck. Either way it doesn't ruin the video games so if does end up sucking, just ignore it ever existed. No one likes the game Far Cry any less just because Uwe Boll made it a movie with dick jokes.

[Armatyr]

please just dont be as bad as doom

[danitiwa]

NO! I do not want this to happen, I hope they run out of money or something, it completely demolishes the meaning of RPG! Shepard will no longer feel our own, I'll end up feeling like the one on screen is the "right" one, which is plain stupid.They always screw up games when making them into movies. At least don't let Shepard be in the movie, no Shepard. I think this is an absoloutely awful idea.

Modifié par danitiwa, 25 mai 2010 - 01:38 .

[Armatyr]

danitiwa wrote...

NO! I do not want this to happen, I hope they run out of money or something, it completely demolishes the meaning of RPG! Shepard will no longer feel our own, I'll end up feeling like the one on screen is the "right" one, which is plain stupid.They always screw up games when making them into movies. At least don't let Shepard be in the movie, no Shepard. I think this is an absoloutely awful idea.

well lets hope this time they dont and prove that games can be turned into something decent

[Armatyr]

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[danitiwa]

OMG IMAGESHACK SUCKS YOU SHOULD USE TINYPIC. ._______. (Herp derp)

Yeah my comment was a bit extreme, but it's one of the few Mass Effect things I don't approve of, next to Ashley Williams.

Modifié par danitiwa, 25 mai 2010 - 02:42 .

[TheCrakFox]

JellyfishCommando wrote...

I hope it's about the first contact war and humanity discovering the prothean ruins on Mars...and stuff.

This would indeed be pretty swanky.

[danitiwa]

TheCrakFox wrote...

JellyfishCommando wrote...

I hope it's about the first contact war and humanity discovering the prothean ruins on Mars...and stuff.

This would indeed be pretty swanky.

Yes, just keep it far away from the game plots and I won't mind the movie.

Modifié par danitiwa, 25 mai 2010 - 03:11 .

[PARAGON87]

I want them to say faithful to the original ME1 plot.  Eden Prime to the Battle of the Citadel.

I say that because usually video games-turned movies try to start something completely different with the original characters while trying to stay in the same universe, and they end up screwing it the hell up.

If they keep it like a novel adaptation, and maybe tweak a few (I mean very few) things for the sake of keeping the plot moving, I would be alright with that.

Aside from that, I can't see this movie being less than two hours long.  If it's an hour and a half "off-the-shelf" Hollywood movie, I won't even bother to go see it.

EDIT:  It will be interesting how they will portray turians, salarians, hanar, volus, geth and elcor.  I can't see them using extensive makeup other than the asari, quarians and possibly the husks.

Modifié par PARAGON87, 25 mai 2010 - 03:24 .

[Kreid]

Guys, it's obviously going to be about Shepard it's an adaptation of the videogame franchise not a production based on the in game's universe.



I, for one hope Hollywood can do it right, having mr.Muzyka, mr.Zeschuk and mr.Hudson as producers give me hope along with Arad senior and junior.

[Alex_SM]

I hope they follow the original plot too.



And they better introduce talimance in the movie...