IGN: Mass Effect Movie Happening
#251
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 03:46
#252
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 03:47
Modifié par Tazzmission, 25 mai 2010 - 03:47 .
#253
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 03:58
I know this, because its reflected in nearly all the movies that get made nowadays, particularly sci-fi. Look at the recent 'Star Trek' film. Star Trek is barely the right word to use, its more like The O.C mixed with Desperate Housewives with a bit of Galaxy Quest on top. It ignores the interesting issues of the mysteries of the cosmos (which were always the most inspiring storylines in Star Trek) and focuses on the petty interactions between unrealistically sophomoric characters. I guess this is because people care about making money first and artistic integrity and intelligent and thoughtful storytelling second. Its a disgraceful practice, in my opinion. Obviously there is an audience out there for that dumbed-down crap, but in the interests of human progression, please don't pander to it... Education is the word.
Keep Mass Effect as it should be, a computer game with a deep story that plays out the way a player wants it, not it only one direction chosen by a screenwriter. If a movie is made, plenty of intelligent people (the majority of BioWare fans, I'd wager) will feel much less enthusiasm for Mass Effect if it cheapens the IP to a sci-fi action shoot-first-don't-ask-any-questions-ever fest - which is basically what 99% of modern 'sci-fi' films boil down to in my eyes.
Unless the movie is going to stay true to the Mass Effect universe and BioWare storytelling, and be made into a film on a par with the game for its philosophical concepts and intellectual depth, and takes place somewhere without Commander Shephard (to avoid players feeling that there is a 'lore' version of Shephard), I am wholly against the idea.
Modifié par BenXyan, 25 mai 2010 - 04:25 .
#254
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:05
Legenday Pictures have made some great films in recent years. The Dark Knight, 300, Where the Wild Things Are, and Watchmen shows their respect and good treatment of the source material. This is not a studio that takes a property and turns it over quicky to try to make a fast buck. They put the time and talent into the production to make sure that it is an awesome experience.
Sure, it is still early days when it comes to film development. Now they start writing scripts, hiring a director, scouting locations, building sets, getting a crew ready, casting, filming, music, special effects, editing, etc and al the stuff that goes into making a movie. I actually had a friend on Facebook who said they were looking forward to seeing this during the summer NEXT YEAR! (which made me laugh). Still, I will be watching my favorite movie gossip websites to see how things develop.
#255
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:07
#256
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:11
Chris Priestly wrote...
I am personally very psyched for this. I'm always a little leery when I hear that someone is taking one of our games and making something with it (the PnP Dragon Age game, the Mass Effect comics from Dark Horse, etc), but I think it comes down to the quality of the people behind the product.
Legenday Pictures have made some great films in recent years. The Dark Knight, 300, Where the Wild Things Are, and Watchmen shows their respect and good treatment of the source material. This is not a studio that takes a property and turns it over quicky to try to make a fast buck. They put the time and talent into the production to make sure that it is an awesome experience.
Sure, it is still early days when it comes to film development. Now they start writing scripts, hiring a director, scouting locations, building sets, getting a crew ready, casting, filming, music, special effects, editing, etc and al the stuff that goes into making a movie. I actually had a friend on Facebook who said they were looking forward to seeing this during the summer NEXT YEAR! (which made me laugh). Still, I will be watching my favorite movie gossip websites to see how things develop.
im pretty sure they can get the movie out by 2014 or 2016 if they take there time. mass effect is a film canidate that should NOT be rushed. i wouldnt mind waiting a few years so they can do a phenomanel job
#257
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:18
Tazzmission wrote...
im pretty sure they can get the movie out by 2014 or 2016 if they take there time. mass effect is a film canidate that should NOT be rushed. i wouldnt mind waiting a few years so they can do a phenomanel job
True. I said the same thing 2years ago when they started sending more info about TOR.
Still, by the time they make this movie, ME3 will be out.
I just hope they don't make any reference to Planet Scanning in this movie
#258
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:18
Though, if anybody other than Brandon Keener plays/voices Garrus, JESUS WILL WEEP.
#259
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:19
#260
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:21
JediHealerCosmin wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
im pretty sure they can get the movie out by 2014 or 2016 if they take there time. mass effect is a film canidate that should NOT be rushed. i wouldnt mind waiting a few years so they can do a phenomanel job
True. I said the same thing 2years ago when they started sending more info about TOR.
Still, by the time they make this movie, ME3 will be out.
I just hope they don't make any reference to Planet Scanning in this movie
what bioware could do is a prequal film based on the revelations novel that way they can introduce the story before the game that feats shepard. that way if the film is a success they can build part 2 with shepards first story being inducted into the spectres and hunting saren
#261
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:21
Everyone complaining about "cannon" or the loss of an "indie appeal" need to take a deep breath and then get some sunshine. You might have insufficient levels of vitamin D. And take a walk. Up your endorphin levels a bit.
#262
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:24
BenXyan wrote...
Argh... I really hope this doesn't happen. The only way a Mass Effect movie would get made is if it cut out all the intelligence and turned it into a shallow cheese-fest...
I agree about the industry, but...
We have to have a bit of faith, and hopefully intelligent conversation about it here on the forums will get heard by bioware. I just hope that the bioware devs involved have enough control, Mass Effect is their baby and I dont think they will stand by and watch it get bastardised.
I have no faith in the movie industry since about 95 (Sure there is the odd gem of a film), but I do have faith in Bioware.
And, Myself and 'Jackshepards' ideas should be heard so I'll post it again, in short.... rest a few pages back
This is obviously just our humble opinion and I believe that something like this could make for some excellent movies, and much better than a Shepard-related film.
"Movie (trilogy) should revolve around Anderson (My pref is chiwetel eliofor to be cast).
This would give way for the films to introduce Biotics, the races, the timeline and the feel of the universe in all its glory.
1st Film (Relay 314): Humanity discovers the prothean relic, andersons induction into the military, the Singapore accident, Arcturus station, and nearing the later part of the film, the start of the 314 incident.
Introduces biotics, humanity pre-contact, main characters.
2nd Film: Pick up nearing the end of the 314 incident. Humanity fights for it's place in the grand-scheme of the galaxy. Other races are introduced, anderson continues his career - Anti-Human turian sect, and saren are revealed. And anderson sooo has to meet a nubile asari merc commando here.
3rd Film: (Quoting Jackshepard XD) *ding ding ding* Anderson vs. Saren. Or Anderson vs. a whole
bunch of other Spectres. Either a straight adaptation of ME: Revelations
or a modified version. It ends with Hackett paying Anderson a visit:
Hackett: I hear you've been getting yourself into all sorts of trouble again, Anderson.
Anderson: No more than usual, sir. To what do I owe the pleasure, sir?
Hackett: I've got an N7 here that could help you
out the next time you get yourself into trouble. Reminds me of you in the old days.
Anderson: I'm not that old, but I'll take all the help I can get, sir.
Hackett: I thought so. Anderson, this is Shepard...
(turns to door, man sillouetted in the doorway, slings rifle over shoulder)
----- CUT TO BLACK - CREDITS -----
Shepard is cemented as the faceless icon he should be, and remain. And die-hard fans **** in their pants at how awesome that ending was.
Modifié par Axeface, 25 mai 2010 - 04:30 .
#263
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:24
BenXyan wrote...
Argh... I really hope this doesn't happen. The only way a Mass Effect movie would get made is if it cut out all the intelligence and turned it into a shallow cheese-fest.
I know this, because its reflected in nearly all the movies that get made nowadays, particularly sci-fi. Look at the recent 'Star Trek' film. Star Trek is barely the right word to use, its more like The O.C mixed with Desperate Housewives with a bit of Galaxy Quest on top. It ignores the interesting issues of the mysteries of the cosmos (which were always the most inspiring storylines in Star Trek) and focuses on the petty interactions between unrealistically sophomoric characters. I guess this is because people care about making money first and artistic integrity and intelligent and thoughtful storytelling second. Its a disgraceful practice, in my opinion. Obviously there is an audience out there for that dumbed-down crap, but in the interests of human progression, please don't pander to it... Education is the word.
Keep Mass Effect as it should be, a computer game with a deep story that plays out the way a player wants it, not it only one direction chosen by a screenwriter. If a movie is made, plenty of intelligent people (the majority of BioWare fans, I'd wager) will feel much less enthusiasm for Mass Effect if it cheapens the IP to a sci-fi action shoot-first-don't-ask-any-questions-ever fest - which is basically what 99% of modern 'sci-fi' films boil down to in my eyes.
Unless the movie is going to have limitless funds and be given unshackled creative freedom to make it into a film on a par with the game for its philosophical concepts and intellectual depth, and takes place somewhere without Commander Shephard (to avoid players feeling that there is a 'lore' version of Shephard), I am wholly against the idea.
Hi, do you have an example of a sci-fi film that fits your ideals?
Modifié par UHitMeInTheEar, 25 mai 2010 - 04:25 .
#264
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:25
Here's some tips.
1. Don't use awful puppets but then again don't do cheap looking cg either
2. Don't hire Freddie prince jr. or Mathew Lillard or some other wannabe moment of the year teen star. (unless as Conrad Verner so Shepard can kick him in the balls)
3. Focus on the characters and the story not on the effects.
4. Don't make up something stupid in the plot like the pilgrims in WC movie or midichlorians in Star Wars prequels *shudder*.
5. remember that many fans of the games will see and judge these movies.
Modifié par armass, 25 mai 2010 - 04:31 .
#265
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:25
#266
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:28
Mister Mida wrote...
Chris, why check for news on some unreliable site when the people who are working on it (Greg, Ray and Casey) are only a few doors away from your office?
I was wondering this myself :happy:
#267
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:30
#268
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:33
#269
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:34
Axeface wrote...
I have no faith in the movie industry since about 95 (Sure there is the odd gem of a film), but I do have faith in Bioware.
I have faith in their ability to write good videogames. But if the Redemption comic has taught me one thing, then it's that just because you can write good videogames doesn't mean you're also good at other forms of storytelling.
Also, while Mass Effect is way up there with the greatest videogame franchises of all time in terms of storytelling quality and depth, I'm afraid whatever movie comes out of this is at best going to be an above average space opera that will be panned for trying too hard to be either Star Trek or Star Wars or both.
Plus I worry this will negatively affect ME3, but I'm sure that's already been mentioned in this thread.
#270
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:37
spacehamsterZH wrote...
Also, while Mass Effect is way up there with the greatest videogame franchises of all time in terms of storytelling quality and depth, I'm afraid whatever movie comes out of this is at best going to be an above average space opera that will be panned for trying too hard to be either Star Trek or Star Wars or both.
It will only be panned as 'trying too hard to be' by people that are, well, irrelevant.
#271
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:46
'Ello.UHitMeInTheEar wrote...
Hi, do you have an example of a sci-fi film that fits your ideals?
There aren't very many. Its probable that a film as I've described has never been made. I would say 2001: A Space Odyssey has come closest. I also enjoyed the first three Star Wars films (as in IV, V and VI), even though they had their cheesy moments, those moments were juxtaposed by scenes containing themes of philosophy and mysticism. One thing that I Ieft out of my original post is that I felt the acting was very believable in those older films, something that is definitely missing from modern sci-fi that I've seen.
Films like the recent 'Star Trek', 'Sunshine' and 'Avatar' and less recent but countless examples of films about going to Mars, are more examples of what I don't like. As far as I'm concerned, those films pander to anti-intellectualism, by treating the audience like beings who can't handle actual intrigue, mystery or deep thought. They also have characters who seem extremely unlikely to be 'Astronauts' or 'Military space-farers', the kind of highly educated and trained, psychologically balanced people likely to be found in those jobs are replaced by people with severe emotional problems, insecurity and instability. By that I mean more than the usual amount for the average person.
The bottom line is, I like films (and all other media) that make people think and that riff honestly on something mysterious about our existence. I find those qualities in Mass Effect (even though it might not perhaps be as deep as 2001), but I fear they would be missing from a tie-in film which seems to be motivated by the possibility of captial alone.
#272
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 04:50
BenXyan wrote...
'Ello.UHitMeInTheEar wrote...
Hi, do you have an example of a sci-fi film that fits your ideals?
Films like the recent 'Star Trek', 'Sunshine' and 'Avatar' and less recent but countless examples of films about going to Mars, are more examples of what I don't like. As far as I'm concerned, those films pander to anti-intellectualism, by treating the audience like beings who can't handle actual intrigue, mystery or deep thought. They also have characters who seem extremely unlikely to be 'Astronauts' or 'Military space-farers', the kind of highly educated and trained, psychologically balanced people likely to be found in those jobs are replaced by people with severe emotional problems, insecurity and instability. By that I mean more than the usual amount for the average person.
Sorry, but Sunshine is utterly, utterly, fantastic.
And the supporting cast and their acting is absolutely outstanding. I do not agree that the characters appear 'unlikely to be astronauts'. They dont have severe emotional problems, but when people start dying what do you expect? Or when you make 1 fatal tiny mistake that could have killed your entire race? Wouldnt you be rather emotionally destroyed by it?
Star trek is rubbish, agreed.
Modifié par Axeface, 25 mai 2010 - 04:54 .
#273
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 05:07
Axeface wrote...
It will only be panned as 'trying too hard to be' by people that are, well, irrelevant.
If by "irrelevant" you mean more or less everyone but those who are already Mass Effect fans. Not to mention at least half the fanbase will hate it on general principle.
#274
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 05:23
spacehamsterZH wrote...
If by "irrelevant" you mean more or less everyone but those who are already Mass Effect fans. Not to mention at least half the fanbase will hate it on general principle.Axeface wrote...
It will only be panned as 'trying too hard to be' by people that are, well, irrelevant.
I actually mean the critics (Who even listens to them?) and to a lesser extent people that dont even like sci-fi (Irrelevant as they wont watch it anyway), to them if it's got aliens in it its a star wars copy. The critics wont listen to reason as they are akin to people involved in the famous fox news 'ME is porn' farse.
I really couldnt see any ME or Sci-fi fans seeing it as a star wars clone.
Modifié par Axeface, 25 mai 2010 - 05:28 .
#275
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 05:44
Everything you hear or read at this point is a rumor and probably not true.PetrySilva wrote...
I did read that the film will have Shepard and they will decide which personality they will use for him. I don't like this idea; Shepard can be many characters. Although i will give a chance to the movie...





Retour en haut




