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[Alex_SM]

InvaderErl wrote...

This is the main reason they won't take a risk with female Shep. There is simply too much money to lose if something goes wrong (assuming that they put money into this and don't go cheap in which case the movie's more doomed than I already think it is).

It's hard to make a Mass Effect movie with less than 100 Million $. Just to show the siege on Eden Prime, the Citadel, the siege of the Citadel, the amounts of makeup and CGI modifications of characters... everything seems to be very expensive.

But let's remember Serenity, Wheddon made it with just 39 Millions. For Hollywood standards it was like the beers of the weekend. Unfortunately the movie failed at the box office, when it was one of the best of the year and one of the best sci-fi - adventure films in years. 

Of Disctrict 9, just 30 Millions (while I think they reused some of the material from the failed Halo project).

Really this is easy, the day we know who writes it and who directs it we will probably know if it is going to be good or bad.  

[Alex_SM]

Wynne wrote...

You're being too American. As if Hollywood cares where the money came from. Vol. 1 made $180,949,045 worldwide, Kill Bill Vol. 2 $152,159,461 worldwide. Technically they were both the same movie, but yeah, I guess they should be counted apart, but they shouldn't just be looked at domestically for a discussion like this.

It's not the same of one movie with 300+ worldwide box office. Everyone who went to see Vol2 went before to see Vol1.

If it where just one movie they wouldn't have paid twice. 

And there was one advantage, Tarantino's name. 

If they are able to get one superstar director to the ME movie then they could just make a 2 hours elevator screen and it surely succeeds. 


By the way, I prefer a Male shep with Tali as the main female character, but I won't mind if is a Female Shep with Tali as the other main female character lol 

Modifié par Alex_SM, 29 mai 2010 - 07:37 .

[Wynne]

Jon Favreau is a well-known actor/screenwriter/director who had already done the first Iron Man movie, so his name is comparable to Tarantino's and I don't think it makes a difference.



And yeah, I have already agreed that the separate parts shouldn't be added together for profits. I stated pretty clearly that I was saying *worldwide* profits should be counted rather than merely US profits.

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Wynne wrote...

You're being too American. As if Hollywood cares where the money came from. Vol. 1 made $180,949,045 worldwide, Kill Bill Vol. 2 $152,159,461 worldwide. Technically they were both the same movie, but yeah, I guess they should be counted apart, but they shouldn't just be looked at domestically for a discussion like this.

Iron Man 2 had a much bigger budget than Kill Bill--30 mil vs. 170-200 mil. Try comparing movies that actually had the same budget. As it stands, that's ridiculously unfair. Ever heard that old saying, "You have to spend money to make money"? Of course Kill Bill didn't make as much money as Iron Man 2--Iron Man 2 also had a Marvel comic book following, which is another huge advantage.

The only way we're going to find out if this works is to have somebody actually try it for once. And nobody's going to have the balls to bring in a female lead for a project with a budget like Iron Man 2, not in this decade. Maybe for Mass Effect, but it's incredibly doubtful, as basically everybody is saying.

The same applies for a Hispanic or Latin-American lead, Asian-American lead, Arab-American lead, or a Ferelden-Qunari lead. Yet they do not complain of their place in society.

Dwelling over these things will only lead to frustration, mage.

[InvaderErl]

Wynne wrote...

You're being too American. As if Hollywood cares where the money came from. Vol. 1 made $180,949,045 worldwide, Kill Bill Vol. 2 $152,159,461 worldwide.

Wynne wrote...
Technically they were both the same movie, but
yeah, I guess they should be counted apart, but they shouldn't just be
looked at domestically for a discussion like this.

While a massive overseas box office is nothing to scoff at, traditionally studios are interested in the US domestic box office first and foremost.

To take your Kill Bill example its overseas intake is larger than what is normal due to Tarantino's
appeal abroad.

Take Trek for example, the foreign intake is 33% of its total box office whereas Kill Bill's is 61%.

Wynne wrote...
Iron Man 2 had a much bigger budget than Kill Bill--30 mil vs. 170-200 mil. Try comparing movies that actually had the same budget. As it stands, that's ridiculously unfair. Ever heard that old saying, "You have to spend money to make money"? Of course Kill Bill didn't make as much money as Iron Man 2--Iron Man 2 also had a Marvel comic book following, which is another huge advantage.

A Mass Effect movie unless it ends up looking like crap is going to have a much larger budget than Kill Bill. This is going (to look any good) have to be an effects filled film, not just for the action and space elements but for the sheer volume of aliens on screen.

So we're likely looking at a huge budget just for the effects alone.

Wynne wrote...
The only way we're going to find out of this works is to have somebody actually try it for once. And nobody's going to have the balls to bring in a female lead for a project with a budget like Iron Man 2, not in this decade. Maybe for Mass Effect, but it's incredibly doubtful, or at least that's my two cents.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. Lord knows I'd like to see more female superhero films come out, but the studio with this kind of risk is going to be extremely sheepish. They are going to want certainties and casting a female lead introduces a unnecessary element of risk.

I'm not saying this is how it SHOULD happen but this is how it is likely going to happen.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 29 mai 2010 - 07:44 .

[Alex_SM]

Wynne wrote...

Jon Favreau is a well-known actor/screenwriter/director who had already done the first Iron Man movie, so his name is comparable to Tarantino's and I don't think it makes a difference.

I don't think so. At least here (Spain) you say "John Favreau" and the answer is "Who?". Instead you say "Tarantino" and everyone knows what movies did he made and who he is.

Tarantino has reached a point where his name is very important for his movies. Like Spielberg, James Cameron, George Lucas, JJ Abrams (thanks to Lost), the Scott brothers,  Michael Bay, Tim Burton...

You attach the name of everyone of them to a movie and it doubles the box office of the movie.

Modifié par Alex_SM, 29 mai 2010 - 07:48 .

[Getorex]

Sam Worthington of Avatar, Clash of the Titans, Terminator: Salvation for Shepard.

[Getorex]

Movie MUST be made with intent of a trilogy behind it. The game/universe is way too big to fit it all into a single 2 hour movie. This will take a trilogy of 2 to 2.5 hour movies to do it right (and do it as with Avatar with 3D too).

[InvaderErl]

Getorex wrote...

Sam Worthington of Avatar, Clash of the Titans, Terminator: Salvation for Shepard.

*goes into convulsions.

Please

no.

No.

NOOOOOOO.

[Cij]

Fragment from the fan film on Mass effect - www.youtube.com/watch
full version 290 minutes
Translated from the gold edition

Modifié par Cij, 29 mai 2010 - 11:19 .

[InvaderErl]

slimgrin wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Sam Worthington of Avatar, Clash of the Titans, Terminator: Salvation for Shepard.

*goes into convulsions.

Please

no.

No.

NOOOOOOO.

Please, not Worthington. The guy just can't act and he like 5 feet tall. They need to pick unknown actors imo.

He's got one emotion.

And that's TALKING THROUGH CLENCHED TEETH WHEN HE'S ANGRY.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 30 mai 2010 - 02:46 .

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Is Drew Karpyshian (sp??) not involved with the script?? didnt he mostly create the mass effect universe?

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slimgrin wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Sam Worthington of Avatar, Clash of the Titans, Terminator: Salvation for Shepard.

*goes into convulsions.

Please

no.

No.

NOOOOOOO.

Please, not Worthington. The guy just can't act and he like 5 feet tall. They need to pick unknown actors imo.

ironic, Sam worthington was an unknown for Terminator Salvation.

[Eddo36]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

Is Drew Karpyshian (sp??) not involved with the script?? didnt he mostly create the mass effect universe?

He better be involved in it. Not much of a book writer, but as a screenwriter he's kapow.

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Eddo36 wrote...

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

Is Drew Karpyshian (sp??) not involved with the script?? didnt he mostly create the mass effect universe?

He better be involved in it. Not much of a book writer, but as a screenwriter he's kapow.

I agree, not much of a writer in terms of describing a scene but he has some great ideas and comes up with interesting plots and decent characters.

[KalosCast]

This movie needs to not happen.

Can somebody name 5 good movie adaptations of video games? ("so bad it's good" doesn't count)

How about three?

One? No?

I rest my case.

[InvaderErl]

KalosCast wrote...

This movie needs to not happen.
Can somebody name 5 good movie adaptations of video games? ("so bad it's good" doesn't count)
How about three?
One? No?
I rest my case.

Agreed. I honestly forgot who said it but what is the fascination with taking something when it is sucessful and transplanting it across every medium known to man?

Mass Effect is already movie-ish.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 30 mai 2010 - 06:14 .

[KalosCast]

InvaderErl wrote...

Mass Effect is already movie-ish.

Yes. I'm pretty sure the Devs are on record as saying that they were trying to base the setting off of every cheesey hollywood/B-move space opera trope and then flesh it out into a believeable world. So, sending it back to Hollywood will just mean that we'll get a bunch of cheesey played out sci-fi tropes and a completely forgettable (if not outright horrible) movie.

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KalosCast wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Mass Effect is already movie-ish.

Yes. I'm pretty sure the Devs are on record as saying that they were trying to base the setting off of every cheesey hollywood/B-move space opera trope and then flesh it out into a believeable world. So, sending it back to Hollywood will just mean that we'll get a bunch of cheesey played out sci-fi tropes and a completely forgettable (if not outright horrible) movie.

I agree and share a lot of misgivings about all of this.  But I do want to point out that comic book movies before the 90s were never good as well.

[InvaderErl]

You mean comic movies during the 90's.



You're forgetting Superman 1 & 2 as well as Burton's Batman.

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InvaderErl wrote...

You mean comic movies during the 90's.

You're forgetting Superman 1 & 2 as well as Burton's Batman.

youre right

[KalosCast]

InvaderErl wrote...

You mean comic movies during the 90's.

You're forgetting Superman 1 & 2 as well as Burton's Batman.

Even those don't hold up to the test of time very well. Comic Book movies are still pretty hit or miss in modern time as well. Wanted was an adaptation in name only, and as a guy who loves corny action movies I still thought it was horrible. Your reaction may vary on Kick-Ass since they pretty much reversed the entire tone of the comic book and re-wrote a lot of major characters. The Spiderman movies after the first one were trash. The new Batman trilogy is kicking ass though. X-men have been going steadily downhill from a good first movie as well.

However, EVERY video game movie has consistently been pure garbage. Uwe Boll or no.

Modifié par KalosCast, 30 mai 2010 - 07:56 .

[Eddo36]

Spiderman 2 was the best.

And I loved Resident Evil (especially the 2nd one) and Silent Hill.

Modifié par Eddo36, 30 mai 2010 - 07:58 .

[billywaffles]

I'm afraid the ME movie will score 20-30% on RT. Unless they do a masterpiece, which won't happen...