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Sten wrote...

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You're being too American. As if Hollywood cares where the money came from. Vol. 1 made $180,949,045 worldwide, Kill Bill Vol. 2 $152,159,461 worldwide. Technically they were both the same movie, but yeah, I guess they should be counted apart, but they shouldn't just be looked at domestically for a discussion like this.

Iron Man 2 had a much bigger budget than Kill Bill--30 mil vs. 170-200 mil. Try comparing movies that actually had the same budget. As it stands, that's ridiculously unfair. Ever heard that old saying, "You have to spend money to make money"? Of course Kill Bill didn't make as much money as Iron Man 2--Iron Man 2 also had a Marvel comic book following, which is another huge advantage.

The only way we're going to find out if this works is to have somebody actually try it for once. And nobody's going to have the balls to bring in a female lead for a project with a budget like Iron Man 2, not in this decade. Maybe for Mass Effect, but it's incredibly doubtful, as basically everybody is saying.

The same applies for a Hispanic or Latin-American lead, Asian-American lead, Arab-American lead, or a Ferelden-Qunari lead. Yet they do not complain of their place in society.

Dwelling over these things will only lead to frustration, mage.


Did your really say "their place in society"?    I can't beleive I actually read this. 

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mopotter wrote...

Sten wrote...

Wynne wrote...

You're being too American. As if Hollywood cares where the money came from. Vol. 1 made $180,949,045 worldwide, Kill Bill Vol. 2 $152,159,461 worldwide. Technically they were both the same movie, but yeah, I guess they should be counted apart, but they shouldn't just be looked at domestically for a discussion like this.

Iron Man 2 had a much bigger budget than Kill Bill--30 mil vs. 170-200 mil. Try comparing movies that actually had the same budget. As it stands, that's ridiculously unfair. Ever heard that old saying, "You have to spend money to make money"? Of course Kill Bill didn't make as much money as Iron Man 2--Iron Man 2 also had a Marvel comic book following, which is another huge advantage.

The only way we're going to find out if this works is to have somebody actually try it for once. And nobody's going to have the balls to bring in a female lead for a project with a budget like Iron Man 2, not in this decade. Maybe for Mass Effect, but it's incredibly doubtful, as basically everybody is saying.

The same applies for a Hispanic or Latin-American lead, Asian-American lead, Arab-American lead, or a Ferelden-Qunari lead. Yet they do not complain of their place in society.

Dwelling over these things will only lead to frustration, mage.


Did your really say "their place in society"?    I can't beleive I actually read this. 

Oh, don't let Sten get to you. He tries to act tough on the outside, but on the inside he's just a big softie.

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Movie's based on a games has sucked BIG! time. At least i don't recall ever seeing a good one. But hopefully a Mass Effect movie will change all that, it certainly has the ingredients to be a great Sci Fi Film. And with Ray Muzyka, Greg Zeschuk and Casey Hudson on board it should at least bring a level of authenticity and stay faithul to the game.

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Well that's terrible. Video game movies are always failures. Honestly I hope it never gets finished and gets cancelled.


I will only support a mass effect movie if it goes aginst the main trillogly of the game maybe the book or first contact war

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Chill 0078 wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Well that's terrible. Video game movies are always failures. Honestly I hope it never gets finished and gets cancelled.


I will only support a mass effect movie if it goes aginst the main trillogly of the game maybe the book or first contact war


A movie based on the first contact war would be a cool idea

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I'm not sure I even want a mass effect movie. Even if it does actually come out it will probably not be any good. And in all likely-hood it will languish in development hell for 6 or 7 months and then never be spoken of ever again.



If it does go forward though I think that the First Contact war or maybe Anderson's initial specter candidacy would be good choices for subject matter. If they do a Shepard story people will get PO'd no matter how they work it.

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Leliana wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Sten wrote...

Wynne wrote...

You're being too American. As if Hollywood cares where the money came from. Vol. 1 made $180,949,045 worldwide, Kill Bill Vol. 2 $152,159,461 worldwide. Technically they were both the same movie, but yeah, I guess they should be counted apart, but they shouldn't just be looked at domestically for a discussion like this.

Iron Man 2 had a much bigger budget than Kill Bill--30 mil vs. 170-200 mil. Try comparing movies that actually had the same budget. As it stands, that's ridiculously unfair. Ever heard that old saying, "You have to spend money to make money"? Of course Kill Bill didn't make as much money as Iron Man 2--Iron Man 2 also had a Marvel comic book following, which is another huge advantage.

The only way we're going to find out if this works is to have somebody actually try it for once. And nobody's going to have the balls to bring in a female lead for a project with a budget like Iron Man 2, not in this decade. Maybe for Mass Effect, but it's incredibly doubtful, as basically everybody is saying.

The same applies for a Hispanic or Latin-American lead, Asian-American lead, Arab-American lead, or a Ferelden-Qunari lead. Yet they do not complain of their place in society.

Dwelling over these things will only lead to frustration, mage.


Did your really say "their place in society"?    I can't beleive I actually read this. 

Oh, don't let Sten get to you. He tries to act tough on the outside, but on the inside he's just a big softie.


Just made me flashback to highschool and everything I disliked about it.  As much as I do not want a movie about Shepard, if it were staring Jet Lee, yep I'd go.  

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Leliana wrote...

Oh, don't let Sten get to you. He tries to act tough on the outside, but on the inside he's just a big softie.


We're all kinda soft and squishy on the inside darlin' 

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I just hope they do it right.

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GothamLord wrote...

Leliana wrote...

Oh, don't let Sten get to you. He tries to act tough on the outside, but on the inside he's just a big softie.


We're all kinda soft and squishy on the inside darlin' 


Truer words were never spoken.  :)

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OK if some1 wants 2 create a movie fine ... but in my Opinion clear and straight ! = NO from game characters ... i only wanna see reapers and kollektors ... use unknown Actros ! make a good story that does NOT envolve the game STORY ! for example a colony has been destroyed or dissappeared or a whole planet or something ... and then make a group of charakters fight the enemys responsible ! ... and make some funny dialog ... and also some "Kodex" information ... THATS how i would want a movie !!! and DONT MAKE MORE THAT 1 Mass Efffect MOvie ! ... if i get to see TO be continued ... ill throw my popcorn at the screen xD

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What I would really like to know is if Bioware just signed over the rights to a Mass Effect movie to the studio, or if they have retained some creative control over their property. 99% of the horrible adaptations have been when the creators do not retain control over their characters. Just look at the Earthsea crud that SciFi produced a couple of years ago

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There is absolutely no way this can deliver, if it actually tries to adapt the stories of the games. If it's an original story then ok. But that would require them to actually do something, you know, original, so where's the point in that?

I don't get what the games need adapt to. People who want less dialogue, story, and characters?

Modifié par jonnyblueballs, 01 juin 2010 - 07:59 .


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I'm on the fence here about this...something tells me this movie won't do the series justice, and yet I want to believe that everything will fall into place, and we'll get a decent, if not enjoyable, Mass Effect film.



If it isn't good...I hope it's like Resident Evil/LoTR. Entertaining movies (in my opinion) on their own, but poor representations of the series. If it ends up like Eragon...I'm going on a rampage.

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Being selfish about it;

I hope reeally hope they avoid adopting the games` story arc.. I mean, I already saw it.. played it

- and there`s NO WAY it could measure up..

And there`s just so much more of ME universe and it`s history (prequels, yay) that I wanna see.




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if the movie is like this cinemtaic trailer, i wouldn't mind it





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I think they could make a good movie, Just need the right actors.

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I really do not like the idea of a film adaptation of Mass Effect. I just see too many opportunities to short change the story and characters in the name of cutting cost and maximizing profits.

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 The most reliable path to follow would have to be a mix of live action and CGI like Beowulf. You simply can't replicate the intricateness and beauty of the Mass Effect Universe without it.

I am really hoping Bioware can extend their prowess of making amazing games to making a great movie as well.

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 They should make the movie exactly how they made the promotional cinematic trailers for the game, those were great.

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I think that a lot of your
concerns over the track record of video game movie adaptations from
Hollywood are warranted, to say the least. It is frustrating to see
Hollywood repeatedly ruin great IP's and rich detailed worlds over
and over again. And most definitely in the coming years we will,
unfortunately, expect to see many more cinematic disasters that will
be titled Half-Life, Fallout, The Legend of Zelda, Grand Theft Auto,
etc, etc. There are many cherished and beautiful game worlds just
waiting to be raped and pillaged by the bland, beige monetary
demi-urge that is Hollywood. Just you wait and see: Gordan Freeman is
going to be played by Shea Lebuff, so you might as well get used to
the idea now.

I think of all the spectacular failures of the
past, be it a video game or comic book adaptation, how the movie is
terrible and why it seems counter-intuitive that they turned out to
be bad movies in the first place when you consider that the setting,
plot, characters, conflict- everything that makes a movie a movie-
has already been laid out, worked over, tried tested and true. All of
the pieces are already there. Not to mention already loved by a mass
number of people in the millions.

The predominate failure of
video game adaptations are not a symptom of the video game medium but
of Hollywood and the American film-going public at large. There is no
need to turn The Prince of Persia into a white American to sell the
story: the character already works wonderfully as a Persian in a game
series that is, most likely, predominately played by white people
anyways. Why did they do that? The world is not lacking Iranian
acting talent (watch any movie by Abbas Kiarostami if you want to see
genuine human emotion portrayed on the screen.) American pride has
always been allergic to portraying foreigners as heroes or main
protagonists in their own movies; which is a whole other off-topic
discussion on it's own.

I don't want to give the
impression that Jake Gyllenhaal most likely got the role because he
is white, although my gut tells me being white was always a
prerequisite for the role from pre-production. He got the role
because he already cut his teeth with nerdy cinema on Donnie Darko so
obviously he is a great choice for a video game movie. There lies the
thought process going on with video game movie adaptations and why
they always fail.

As it has been pointed out in other replies
above, most of the blame for all the terrible video game movies lies
on Uwe Boll's shoulders. The man seems intent on ruining the image of
good games with millions of fans. However, this is only a small
fraction of the problem (and yes, Uwe Boll is the platonic ideal of a
hack, maybe even a archetype.)

If you follow IMDB and look at
the rest of the cast and crew on these movies you will see many of
the same names involved in every video game movie. There are a number
of go-to guys and girls in Hollywood for writing, set design,
costumes, effects, make up, producers, and of course actors who are
tapped on the shoulder to work on the next video game movie
adaptation seemingly every time. This also applies to comic book
movies as well. In fact you can look at the entire Sci-Fi/Fantasy
genre in movies this way. Well, actually this applies to all movies.
People find work within the genres they worked in the past. This is
how the industry works, and it works from an emotional state of fear
of failure.

Let's take a look at Francis Ford Coppola.
Undeniably he sits at the top of a small list of international
director auteurs, who are still living, with a degree of enviable
respect and a record of very high quality movies in the past which
have made a lot of money. If he wants to make a drama about anything
it will be greenlighted on his name alone. But, did you know he tried
to make a science fiction movie called Metropolis for decades and he
never got funding for it? It would have required a large budget,
state of the art special effects and would be very ahead of the curve
in terms of what the American movie going audience expects from a big
budget science fiction movie. He never got the money for it because
Coppola does not make science fiction movies. You do not associate
his name with it, so it's a bad marketing idea. Even if his movies
consistently make money, it doesn't matter. That's Hollywood.

David Fincher is another interesting director in this way. He started as an
junior FX guy on Return of the Jedi and got his break directing
commercials which in turn got him the job of making Alien 3, which
financially was a failure (but a really good sci fi movie in my
books, anyways.) He is of course immensely talented and brilliant so
he got to make more movies regardless which I'm sure you have on your
DVD shelf and watch over again every now and then. But, he always
wanted to go back to making another sci fi movie and redeem himself
this way (like Rendezvous with Rama) yet these projects always linger
in development for years until they finally disappear.

Hollywood
is very much like the Mafia and you do what you are told. Video game
movies, and comic book movies as well, are 98% always terrible (this
is a very scientific number, btw ;-) because 98% of the time
they utilize the same "talent." 

Now, back to
the Mass Effect movie.

I actually have a little more faith
already in this movie than all the other video game movie adaptations
combined. Two reasons:

1. Legendary Pictures. They definitely
are not perfect (Spider Man 3 is a ****ing abomination) but they do
respect their source material. Zach Synder is no Kurosawa (he's not
even a Sam Fuller) but the movies he's been involved with that
Legendary have funded do show they fully get behind the universe of
the property they are making. The Watchmen certainly nailed the look
of a Watchmen movie, even if it didn't end up feeling like one. Not
to mention the massive success of Dark Knight has shown them the
value of not diluting a cinematic experience with kid friendly vibes.
Action movies can be successful when they are made only for adults
only. Leave the kid movies to Studio Ghibli and Pixar, they do it
best anyways.

2. Bioware are executive producers. I don't
really need to inform anyone on the Bioware forums of their
commitment to their fans, do I? And as a Cinephile, I Heart
Bioware in a major way.

Like I said above, all the
pieces are already in place for a fantastic, epic Mass Effect movie
because Bioware have already laid out all the groundwork for one in
the Mass Effect games.


Who do I think would be the
best Director for this film? Chris Cunningham. You want someone
who would NAIL the look and feel of the Mass Effect universe with a
high degree of success and realism then this is your man. Of course
this would never happen.

And I prefer Sheppard as a
woman.

Modifié par postretro, 05 juin 2010 - 12:48 .


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jrv200108 wrote...

 The most reliable path to follow would have to be a mix of live action and CGI like Beowulf. You simply can't replicate the intricateness and beauty of the Mass Effect Universe without it.

I am really hoping Bioware can extend their prowess of making amazing games to making a great movie as well.


...only that BioWare isn't making it. They are "producers" on the project and are giving the movie direction, but much of that movie-making part is going to be handled by a firm called Legendary Pictures. 

I don't have much faith in film adaptations of video games, so my expectations on such a film are pretty low.

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See here's the thing. Ever wonder why mass effect is such a great game?
Most would say because it's a great rpg and has one of the best storyline ever for a video game.

Now why is the story good?
Because it's immersive. Why is it immersive? Because we were there making every little decision for a 30+ hour experience.

Now imagine a 2 hour movie that has to include the following events:
-Introducing Shepard
-Battle of Eden Prime
---meeting kaiden and ashley
---introducing nihlus and saren
---vision of prothean artifact
-Report back to Council
---Fighting fist
---Finding evidence
-Meet 3 other team members
-Become a spectre
-Track down saren
---feros
---noveria
---therum
---virmire
---Illos
Final Battle

Even if you play through the game just doing the main plot it'd take you at least 15 hours (if you know what you're doing.)

Now squish that into 2-3 hours and say goodbye to immersion. Say goodbye to good storyline.

Modifié par facialstrokage, 05 juin 2010 - 07:28 .


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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Well that's terrible. Video game movies are always failures. Honestly I hope it never gets finished and gets cancelled.


With you all the way.


Please.
Don't ruin the ME universe with a MOVIE.
Both Mass Effect games are times better than any movie could ever be.EVER.

Please, Bioware.Please.Anything but that.

Modifié par UshiromiyaReiji, 05 juin 2010 - 07:59 .