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[AntiChri5]

I will absolutely love this.



So long as they stay the hell away from Shepard and the main trilogy.



That i will HATE



But something like Anderson during the first contact war, sweet.

[Terror_K]

I'm very dubious about this one. Aside from the fact that it's just so damn rare for an adaptation to be done well these days, to make a movie directly based on the games seems like a pointless step backwards. One of the great appeals of the game was the ability to create our own Shepards and actually effect the universe, and to turn this into a film and make it completely linear and interaction free comes across like leaving your modern day house to go and live in a cave. Mass Effect was a game that moved gaming forward and closer towards interactive cinema, but to go back and just make it cinema again seems counterproductive. Sure... if it was a movie set in the ME universe and set during the First Contact War or something with completely new characters and you tie it into the games, that's not so bad. To try and adapt ME directly though... no.



On top of that, how do we know this will be a quality movie and not just another case of Hollywood selling out and adapting something popular for the big screen for that quick buck? They have a habit of recently taking existing properties because they can't come up with something original themselves and then completely warping it into something else entirely as they mainstream it up to reach today's young people and lose most of what made the original property appealing to the original fans in the process.



It gives me a little hope that we've got Ray, Greg and Casey attached in important roles, as well as the fact that ME is a current property and not something from the past, but it still comes down to who they pick to direct and what "their vision" of Mass Effect will be. How much will be retconned, abandoned or outright changed entirely leaving us with a completely different Mass Effect universe than that of the established one? Even with Ray, Greg and Casey aboard, how do we know this will stay 100% true (and I DO mean 100%) to the source material? And why hire some Hollywood screenwriter with two decidedly average movies instead of bringing Drew in on this?

[Sigma Tauri]

RedTracer7 wrote...
In reality, none, which is kind of the point I'm making.  Comparing a Mass Effect movie to any other videogame movie will inevitably be wrong, as Mass Effect is far different from any other series ever adapted, and (if given the proper funding) it would have a significantly different production "system".

Inevitably? How did you receive the foresight that the series will be adapted any differently from any other video game movie?

To actually answer your question, however, I do have two "kind-of" examples.  The first is the Pokemon movies, which are technically based on a game adapted from a card game, but I'm splitting hairs at that point.  I have never been a fan of the franchise, but apparently, many fans believe the first movies stayed true to the series.

Pokemon's not exactly a classic even among animation fans. They also weren't targeting an adult Western audience.

Secondly, the Prince of Persia movie has a 55% in Rotten Tomatoes, meaning that most reviews have been positive.  Its the only game to movie that I really see as in any way comparable (and PoP's universe is far more shallow than MEs).

I should then take that as precedent that a PoP movie lived up to its potential, even if slightly more than half of those reviews gave it a bad rating? Or should I expect that after PoP, it only goes up from here? Eh, I can't believe that.

[RedTracer7]

slimgrin wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

RedTracer7 wrote...
Precedent says otherwise.  Batman, for example, has a rich history of nearly seventy years, with a deep backstory and far too many characters to count.  This did not stop it from being a great movie followed by an even better sequal (I'm talking of Batman Begins and Dark Knight).  Care must be taken, but I believe it will be good.  You seem to have no faith in Bioware's ability to keep the movie on something that the fans will love.

I don't have faith.

Especially when BioWare is probably going to be very far removed from actually making the movie.

Batman's actually pretty easy. He's a very simple character with a very simple premise. Shepard? Not so.

This will fail. Horribly.

Batman is far from a simple character, which is why it took someone with real ability ( Nolan) to get it right.

This movie will fail because it won't have the right talent behind it. It'll be popcorn and explosions, and too much CGI. I for one think it will be hard to have a number of main characters as non-humaniod aliens. Wrex will be CGI, so will Garrus. And they'll have to have near genius makup work to get Samara or Liara right without CGI. These characters are plausible for a game, but not for a live action movie.

CGI can do just about anything nowadays.

[Yakko77]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

It's going to be awful. I can't wait!

Indeed.  I'll likely be there regardless on opening night as well.

Seriously, how are they going to take a 40-60 epic and make it maybe 2 hrs tops?

It'll probably be a male Shepard though it would be an interesting twist if they did choose a female but I'm thinking the odds are 99% it's a male Shepard.  That being said, I hope they choose the right actor.  It can't be someone too young.  None of these pretty boys from teen movies.  It would have to be someone in their early-mid 30's as Shepard strikes me as someone with experience which usually comes witha fair number of years but somehow I  get the feeling it'll be some pretty boy who has no business in the role.

I  eagerly await if Bioware can buck the trend of so many video game movies doing a great game a great injustice.

[JackShepard]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...



I don't have faith.

Especially when BioWare is probably going to be very far removed from actually making the movie.

Batman's actually pretty easy. He's a very simple character with a very simple premise. Shepard? Not so.

This will fail. Horribly.

Batman is not easy.  Oh god no. It took them years (and a stint with Joel Schumacher) to get him right. If you want easy, go look at Superman (Yes, I went there). I say this as a comic book fan who has spent countless hours basking in Bat-mythology. And I love the Mass Effect universe almost as much. I assume that everybody posting here does as well.

The problem is, there's a high probability that they're not going to make the movie with pleasing fans of the ME universe (you know, us) in mind. They're making this movie to draw more people into the franchise. This means they're going to water it down to some extent the same way all comic book movies have been diluted to make them more palatable to the general public. The trick is finding the right balance that will please both the loyal fans and the general viewing audience. The Batman we see in film is watered down. It has to be to appeal to a wider audience. They will definitely do the same for Mass Effect. I mean come on, do you really want codex guy popping up in the Mass Effect movie every 30 seconds to explain about element zero and biotics? I don't think so.

Can they pull it off? Do they even want to? God, I hope so.

I doubt it, though. 

[Busomjack]

I think the chances of this movie being good are about as high as my chances of scoring with Kim Kardashian.

[RedTracer7]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Inevitably? How did you receive the foresight that the series will be adapted any differently from any other video game movie?

I will admit that Inevitably was a poor word choice.  What I mean is that Mass Effect is so incredibly different than every other intellectual property ever adapted to a movie that it is foolish to attempt to compare it to anything that has come before.  You can't really tell me that Lara Croft, Doom, or Bloodrayne has anywhere near the depth of universe that Mass Effect has.  And because Mass Effect has this depth, its ability to be changed into a movie must be better.  Once again, Batman or Spiderman stand as examples.

Pokemon Comment and:

I should then take that as precedent that a PoP movie lived up to its potential, even if slightly more than half of those reviews gave it a bad rating? Or should I expect that after PoP, it only goes up from here? Eh, I can't believe that.

As I said, those were "kind-of" examples.  You actually pointed out the flaws that I saw in them (thus making them "kind-of").  

[jlb524]

Busomjack wrote...

I think the chances of this movie being good are about as high as my chances of scoring with Kim Kardashian.

This.

[RedTracer7]

JackShepard wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...



I don't have faith.

Especially when BioWare is probably going to be very far removed from actually making the movie.

Batman's actually pretty easy. He's a very simple character with a very simple premise. Shepard? Not so.

This will fail. Horribly.

Batman is not easy.  Oh god no. It took them years (and a stint with Joel Schumacher) to get him right. If you want easy, go look at Superman (Yes, I went there). I say this as a comic book fan who has spent countless hours basking in Bat-mythology. And I love the Mass Effect universe almost as much. I assume that everybody posting here does as well.

The problem is, there's a high probability that they're not going to make the movie with pleasing fans of the ME universe (you know, us) in mind. They're making this movie to draw more people into the franchise. This means they're going to water it down to some extent the same way all comic book movies have been diluted to make them more palatable to the general public. The trick is finding the right balance that will please both the loyal fans and the general viewing audience. The Batman we see in film is watered down. It has to be to appeal to a wider audience. They will definitely do the same for Mass Effect. I mean come on, do you really want codex guy popping up in the Mass Effect movie every 30 seconds to explain about element zero and biotics? I don't think so.

Can they pull it off? Do they even want to? God, I hope so.

I doubt it, though. 

I swear, if I turn out right about this, I want a statue built in my honor.  And its title will read:

"He who foresaw the awesomeness that was Mass Effect: The Movie"

And if I'm wrong, and the movie sucks?  This conversation never happened...

[Sigma Tauri]

JackShepard wrote...
The problem is, there's a high probability that they're not going to make the movie with pleasing fans of the ME universe (you know, us) in mind.

How about simply making a good movie set in the ME universe? I frankly don't care if the moviemakers take some liberties on the game mythology so long as they have a vision where they feel the ME universe is the best way to convey it from. But, that's just me being delusional.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 25 mai 2010 - 04:17 .

[gethspy]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
For the record the pacing in mass effect would be horrible for a moive (that goes quadrupile for ME2)

[RedTracer7]

slimgrin wrote...

@ RedTracer

1. I doubt they'll have Cameron's budget or time frame to complete the project.

2. Mass Effect is a far better game than Avatar is a movie.

Then what of this?

I understand that the movie wasn't great, by life-like CGI is not only seen in the realm of the ricidulusly expensive.  I was amazed by Beowulf.

And ME is better than Pochahontas.  Oops, I mean Avatar.

[Busomjack]

RedTracer7 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

@ RedTracer

1. I doubt they'll have Cameron's budget or time frame to complete the project.

2. Mass Effect is a far better game than Avatar is a movie.

Then what of this?

I understand that the movie wasn't great, by life-like CGI is not only seen in the realm of the ricidulusly expensive.  I was amazed by Beowulf.

And ME is better than Pochahontas.  Oops, I mean Avatar.

Lol, you could do that with The Last Samurai and Dances with Wolves too.

[Yakko77]

slimgrin wrote...

@ RedTracer

1. I doubt they'll have Cameron's budget or time frame to complete the project.

2. Mass Effect is a far better game than Avatar is a movie.

ME draws inspiration from a host of sci-fi greats and draws on it's own originality and story telling as well.

Avatar is a pretty movie that pretends it's not Fergully meets Dances with Wollves starring really tall Smurfs.

Modifié par Yakko77, 25 mai 2010 - 04:24 .

[Dan the Man with a Plan]

I have a lot of hope for this and unlike many people here i hope they follow they main storyline making up anything else would ruin it.

[Axeface]

You know it makes sense. Quick photoshop

Chiwetel Ejiofor for main protag.

And make a SERIES not a film. Too much content for a short film...

Modifié par Axeface, 25 mai 2010 - 04:31 .

[TheJiveDJ]

Make it young Captain Anderson's story. Knowing BioWare, they won't give a big "ef you" to the fans by rehashing Shepard's story with their own canon version.

Modifié par TheJiveDJ, 25 mai 2010 - 04:30 .

[Yakko77]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

illerianna wrote...

I... Just...

No.

Could they make a good movie? Sure, why not. But I'm a pessimist and am going to cry now. If it sucks, I honestly don't think I'll look at ME the same again. :| Movies tend to ruin my image... Of everything.

What about Super Mario Bros?  Was that not an insanely awesome take on the video games?

Bloodrayne.

I  rest my case.

[Sigma Tauri]

RedTracer7 wrote...
I will admit that Inevitably was a poor word choice.  What I mean is that Mass Effect is so incredibly different than every other intellectual property ever adapted to a movie that it is foolish to attempt to compare it to anything that has come before.  You can't really tell me that Lara Croft, Doom, or Bloodrayne has anywhere near the depth of universe that Mass Effect has.  And because Mass Effect has this depth, its ability to be changed into a movie must be better.  Once again, Batman or Spiderman stand as examples.

Just because ME has a detailed setting does not mean it translates into a hour and a half movie. The type of depth you're looking for would've been most appropriate for a TV sci-fi series than an hour and a half movie. Games and shows like Babylon 5 have the leisure to show you world. ME does, but not especially a movie adapation of the Shepard arc. While you see a detailed world, the general audience might not. And a setting like ME won't make it any less incapable of a sucky movie.

Edited from doesn't to does.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 25 mai 2010 - 04:32 .

[ObserverStatus]

Now Mewtwo Strikes Back, that was a good movie.

[RedTracer7]

Axeface wrote...

You know it makes sense. Quick photoshop

*IMGSNIP

Well, it would make no sense besides the fact that Shepard loves Colt 45s, but I would like to see Shepard played by....



Billy Dee Williams!!