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Mars Nova wrote...

kyle924, please tell me that list is a joke, because it has some of the worst casting decisions I've ever seen.

Maleshep: Robert Downey Jr., Johnny Depp, Christian Slater, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Matthew Fox, Samuel L. Jackson, Vin Diesel, Keanu Reeves, Jason Statham, Freddie Prinze Jr., Dwayne Johnson, Sean Connery, Will Smith, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Daniel Craig, Viggo Mortensen, Heath Ledger, Bruce Williss, Matt Damon, Chris O'Donnel, Woody Harrelson, Jackie Chan, Kurt Russell, Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe, Rowan Atkinson, Orlando Bloom, Brendan Fraser, Jack Black, Charlie Sheen, Zac Efron, Chuck Norris, David Beckham, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Keifer Sutherland, Ben Affleck, John Travolta, Morgan Freeman, George Clooney, Michael Cera, Christopher Walken, Jet Li, Gene Wilder

Femshep: Charlize Theron, Kate Winslet, Angelina Jolie, Megan Fox, Whoopi Goldberg, Jessica Alba, Sigourney Weaver, Geena Davis

Kaidan: Keanu Reeves, Lou Diamond Philips, Dwayne Johnson, Stevan Seagal, Robert Downey Jr., Ashton Kutcher, Matt Damon

Ashley: Carrie-Ann Moss, Jessica Alba, Mila Kunis, Angelina Jolie, Lucy Liu, Megan Fox, Sigourney Weaver, Charlize Theron, Zoe Saldana, Hilary Swank, Yvonne Strahowski

Liara: Angelina Jolie, Dakota Fanning

Tali: Jessica Alba, Ellen DeGeneres, Charlize Theron, David Prowse

Anderson: Robert Downey Jr., Gary Oldman

Udina: Sidney Pointier, Samuel L. Jackson, Harrison Ford, James Woods, Julian McMahon, Morgan Freeman

Joker: Taylor Lautner, Tim Allen

Conrad: Bruce Willis

If those roles go to any of the people listed next to them, I will boycott the movie.

Unfortunately, this list is not a joke. Posted ImagePosted Image

I have been on this website since pg. 35. Trust me.

Long have I been pissed and have shouted "What the ****?!?!?!" too many times in this list. I had hated half the choices myself - like Matt Damon, Megan Fox, Robert Downey Jr., Charlize Theron, Angelina Jolie, Jessica Alba, Taylor Lautner, and Bruce Willis - it was as lousy as ****. In all the time the list was created, THANK YOU for arguing about it.

Part of the reason the list was created was to show to everyone (including myself) how intelligent or ridiculous the choices of actors/actresses were for these roles. But no matter how stupid or serious the person believed, the list needed to continue, or otherwise none of us would have a clear idea of who Shepard or any of the cast might be -except for those who are writing a script, Legendary Pictures, and Bioware.

If anyone looking at this demands to see a better or refined version of The List, there will be one soon. But patience is a virtue. A second part of the list will be coming soon. That part of this is much less than the The List Part 1.

And I would like to join the boycott if Talyor Lautner or Tim Allen ever get picked as Joker.

Modifié par kyle924, 09 août 2010 - 12:39 .


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Mars Nova wrote...

kyle924, please tell me that list is a joke, because it has some of the worst casting decisions I've ever seen.

Maleshep: Robert Downey Jr., Johnny Depp, Christian Slater, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Matthew Fox, Samuel L. Jackson, Vin Diesel, Keanu Reeves, Jason Statham, Freddie Prinze Jr., Dwayne Johnson, Sean Connery, Will Smith, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Daniel Craig, Viggo Mortensen, Heath Ledger, Bruce Williss, Matt Damon, Chris O'Donnel, Woody Harrelson, Jackie Chan, Kurt Russell, Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe, Rowan Atkinson, Orlando Bloom, Brendan Fraser, Jack Black, Charlie Sheen, Zac Efron, Chuck Norris, David Beckham, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Keifer Sutherland, Ben Affleck, John Travolta, Morgan Freeman, George Clooney, Michael Cera, Christopher Walken, Jet Li, Gene Wilder

Femshep: Charlize Theron, Kate Winslet, Angelina Jolie, Megan Fox, Whoopi Goldberg, Jessica Alba, Sigourney Weaver, Geena Davis

Kaidan: Keanu Reeves, Lou Diamond Philips, Dwayne Johnson, Stevan Seagal, Robert Downey Jr., Ashton Kutcher, Matt Damon

Ashley: Carrie-Ann Moss, Jessica Alba, Mila Kunis, Angelina Jolie, Lucy Liu, Megan Fox, Sigourney Weaver, Charlize Theron, Zoe Saldana, Hilary Swank, Yvonne Strahowski

Liara: Angelina Jolie, Dakota Fanning

Tali: Jessica Alba, Ellen DeGeneres, Charlize Theron, David Prowse

Anderson: Robert Downey Jr., Gary Oldman

Udina: Sidney Pointier, Samuel L. Jackson, Harrison Ford, James Woods, Julian McMahon, Morgan Freeman

Joker: Taylor Lautner, Tim Allen

Conrad: Bruce Willis

If those roles go to any of the people listed next to them, I will boycott the movie.


Are you HIGH!!!!! If Seth Green doesn't play Joker, Im out. I don't care who plays Shepard, but Joker... seriously, I would be pissed.

And no - I'm not high. The List is. Like I said, it was produced to show everyone how ***ed up half of these choices are. If you want to look at the choices that were talked about from pg. 35, be my guest.

Otherwise, I humbly THANK you and B34TINGU1 and Mars Nova for arguing with The List when hundreds of these people on this damn forum didn't.

And yes, Seth Green should be the ONLY actor playing Joker for the ME Movie. Posted Image

Modifié par kyle924, 09 août 2010 - 12:34 .


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Man Im glad, for a second there, I thought you lost it. But if they go with this cast for the movie...



APOCALIPSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PWENER wrote...

How about George Lucas & Steven Spilberg? They can do to Mass Effect what they did to Indiana Jones.

(Why is Lucas so obsessed with aliens???).


Jones was an original idea. ME is not. It will be an adaptation.

PWENER wrote...

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I think I'm, like, 1 of 12 ppl that actually liked Lady in the Water. LOL. I guess it's because I went into it with no expectations.


Me too. I loved the book guy getting mauled because he wouldn't shut up.


That was a wonderful movie.

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Look people, having a movie about Shepard is just like watching someone else play the game. They may define the character differently, but it's just their interpretation. The games came first, so a movie won't create a "Canon Shepard," it will just be the filmmakers telling one version of the story.


I agree with that but here comes the other problem, if the director's vision differs from the viewer's vision, the viewer will not be pleased. The example of this is the infamous "Han Solo Shot First" -incident (you know, the one where George Lucas put Greedo shot first so Han would be better role model for kids in EP4:SE and the audience were not pleased about it.). So imagine if they made Shephard paragon and the viewer preferes renegade Shep he would be mad if they make Sheppard look like honest boy scout. And then there is gender which is problematic because in games he/she can be either male or female, so that annoys fans too if Shep is he or not she (or other way around). And third there is change when the someone who haven't played the games liked the movie and buys the game he'll be disappointed because there isn't the direct director's vision in the game, rather than roleplay like choises. And when that viewer tells how ****ty and nerdy the game is the reputition of all games in the series suffers (if he don't change his mind and give the game a change). And plus there is also the fact that movie is 3 h maximum when game takes 12 hours to beat (if you don't do anything else than play the main quest that is), so it is pretty hard to make it to a feature film.


Then just about everyone will be disappointed, because, everyone has a different version of Shep whether they are male or female.  I know I have 5 different male shepards and 5  female shepards.  Some follow paragon and some follow renegade, their choices are always different.  The movie will be the same, a different Shepard than what we have now.  I think that is point, we get to see another Shepard and that is what excites me.  Mass Effect without Shepard to me is not Mass Effect.  We learn about the Mass Effect universe through him/her.  The movie is just another way that we will get to see Mass Effect play out.


Exactly my thoughts. If you have 3 different Shepards then what harm does it do to have another one in the movie?


Well everyone don't like different variatons, for instance I know one player (who is actually a game reviewer) that once played Shep as paragon but thought he- sh- that one was an weak covard so he did end up playing as renegade from that poin on (or so I read from his review). If this movie is not crushed at least it will get mixed oppinions. With this kind of movie adaption it is impossible to end up results that will please anybody. Even more so if the movie ends up being like random scenes without a decent plot to warp it up, because this is like trying to fit whole Lord of the Rings in one 3 hour lenght movie. So if you think it still would has the "whole" story without any plot holes, then you should write a novel with each 2 from 3 chapters missing (I doup it would be critically acclaimed and gain best seller status).


You don't think it would please anybody??? Nobody at all??? I could understand you saying: "Not everyone will be pleased" or "some will not like it"  but your saying nobody will be pleased with a movie on ME1, ok buddy.

Obviously they would only keep the main plot and would have to change a few things here and there, it would still be a lengthy movie - like 2.5 hours long. It can be done, it has been done before. You act it's set in stone that it would fail.

Modifié par B34TINGU1, 09 août 2010 - 04:04 .


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I just hope they don't mess it up

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The movie is totally going to rock, everyone needs to stop thinking negatively about how it might not be good. Everyone needs to think of how epic the movie is going to be and just wait till it comes out, its as simple as that.

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I'm sure this will have been echoed in this thread, but since I haven't posted here yet (I dont think...) I'll voice my main concern.



To put simply, budget. Budget budget budget. Mass Effect, as an intellectual property, is one that demands a high budget if its going to be live action. Its sci-fi, set across numerous space locals, starring a cast of alien species, sci-fi equipment, etc etc etc.



To accomplish those special effects, in live action, you're going to need a mix of props and CGI. Budget starts going up because, well, these things are expensive if you want to do them well.



And that is my main concern; this is a videogame film. Historically, videogame films have been given the shaft by production companies. Even at their best, production companies wont invest an immense amount of financial resources into the project, as its too high risk. That means the Mass Effect film runs the risk of getting 'cheap' low budget (comparitively) special effects, in CGI and props. For Mass Effect, this is an issue, as the whole bloody thing is science fiction.



Essentialy, the entirety of what is Mass Effect demands a lot of props and CGI. Its not like other sci-fis grounded in realism, or using familiar locals (such as Earth), where you can get away with using every day locations, settings, and props. The whole thing needs to be a fabrication.



So yeah, those are my concerns. I'd rather no Mass Effect movie at all over a Mass Effect movie that looked like a cheap B-grade production. Unfortunately, I just dont see the production company investing all that much into videogame movie, at least not the amount I would like.



Fingers crossed BioWare and co can prove me wrong.

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SETH GREEN HAVE TO ,NO... MUST TO PLAY JOKER.

If the movie is going to be about shepard ofcourse, but i vote for First Contact War!!!!

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B34TINGU1 wrote...

VVP wrote...

B34TINGU1 wrote...

sdunn01 wrote...

VVP wrote...

DarthSlim108 wrote...

Look people, having a movie about Shepard is just like watching someone else play the game. They may define the character differently, but it's just their interpretation. The games came first, so a movie won't create a "Canon Shepard," it will just be the filmmakers telling one version of the story.


I agree with that but here comes the other problem, if the director's vision differs from the viewer's vision, the viewer will not be pleased. The example of this is the infamous "Han Solo Shot First" -incident (you know, the one where George Lucas put Greedo shot first so Han would be better role model for kids in EP4:SE and the audience were not pleased about it.). So imagine if they made Shephard paragon and the viewer preferes renegade Shep he would be mad if they make Sheppard look like honest boy scout. And then there is gender which is problematic because in games he/she can be either male or female, so that annoys fans too if Shep is he or not she (or other way around). And third there is change when the someone who haven't played the games liked the movie and buys the game he'll be disappointed because there isn't the direct director's vision in the game, rather than roleplay like choises. And when that viewer tells how ****ty and nerdy the game is the reputition of all games in the series suffers (if he don't change his mind and give the game a change). And plus there is also the fact that movie is 3 h maximum when game takes 12 hours to beat (if you don't do anything else than play the main quest that is), so it is pretty hard to make it to a feature film.


Then just about everyone will be disappointed, because, everyone has a different version of Shep whether they are male or female.  I know I have 5 different male shepards and 5  female shepards.  Some follow paragon and some follow renegade, their choices are always different.  The movie will be the same, a different Shepard than what we have now.  I think that is point, we get to see another Shepard and that is what excites me.  Mass Effect without Shepard to me is not Mass Effect.  We learn about the Mass Effect universe through him/her.  The movie is just another way that we will get to see Mass Effect play out.


Exactly my thoughts. If you have 3 different Shepards then what harm does it do to have another one in the movie?


Well everyone don't like different variatons, for instance I know one player (who is actually a game reviewer) that once played Shep as paragon but thought he- sh- that one was an weak covard so he did end up playing as renegade from that poin on (or so I read from his review). If this movie is not crushed at least it will get mixed oppinions. With this kind of movie adaption it is impossible to end up results that will please anybody. Even more so if the movie ends up being like random scenes without a decent plot to warp it up, because this is like trying to fit whole Lord of the Rings in one 3 hour lenght movie. So if you think it still would has the "whole" story without any plot holes, then you should write a novel with each 2 from 3 chapters missing (I doup it would be critically acclaimed and gain best seller status).


You don't think it would please anybody??? Nobody at all??? I could understand you saying: "Not everyone will be pleased" or "some will not like it"  but your saying nobody will be pleased with a movie on ME1, ok buddy.

Obviously they would only keep the main plot and would have to change a few things here and there, it would still be a lengthy movie - like 2.5 hours long. It can be done, it has been done before. You act it's set in stone that it would fail.

Yeah, I had typo there,  I did really mean everybody. Just try your self wrote flawless message in forgein language at middle of the night.

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Why wouldn't they just focus the movie on someone besides Shepard, so that everyone doesn't flip... They could make it a 3 hour epic about the Turian Ambassador dismissing claims, with bullets!

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I'm quite new to this topic and did not have the nerves to go through all 151 pages. ;)

Basically all videogames to movies deals were bad......I don't know how many of you remember Wing Commander game under Chris Roberts. And when he was dumped he made Wing Commander The movie starring Freddie Prince something...it was terrible, a complete disaster:sick:. Then we have Doom with The Rock starring...also disaster.:sick:

Now, one movie did make a huge success...Final Fantasy Spirits within. It was completly animated and top quality (even by todays standards), with some great voice acting.

My question is....why not make animated ME movie, it is much cheaper than making a zillion dollar project like Avatar, and you can make a much better experience for the audience. Also you get a few celebrities to do the voice acting (and to attract investors), and KPOW...you get a great quality movie.

*remember ME2 cinematic trailer?*
http://www.youtube.c...HCA8tK117c:lol:

I don't think that Bioware would do something crazy like making the movie about Shepard :whistle:(because of the choises each individual player made, that made the game their story). I think that it will, most likely, be about some previous events reffered in the game (First contact war, Arachni wars, Skyllian Blitz etc.).

In any case, hoping for the best :D

Modifié par B-Man_N7, 09 août 2010 - 09:18 .


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wonder what the story line will be if they follow the games or something else

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I'm happy for Bioware to make 'some' money for the copyrights but I don't think that this movie is going to be any good. Making a movie of a videogame, that clearly functions as a cinematic experience already - with its inspirations from older sci-fi movies, just seems...yeah, stupid. Unless they do some postmodern stuff like Tarantino ;-)

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B-Man_N7 wrote...

My question is....why not make animated ME movie, it is much cheaper than making a zillion dollar project like Avatar, and you can make a much better experience for the audience. Also you get a few celebrities to do the voice acting (and to attract investors), and KPOW...you get a great quality movie.


Absolutely. Animating saves budget on live action special effects, and has a much better chance of keeping the vision.

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If you ask me this should be a full length CGI film using the original voice actors. Kinda eliminates the possibility of a crappy choice of who would play Shepard.

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Gecrap wrote...

If you ask me this should be a full length CGI film using the original voice actors. Kinda eliminates the possibility of a crappy choice of who would play Shepard.


The point is not to make a movie about Shepard. Shepard's story is every players personal story. :blink:
It would be great to make CGI film placed in the ME universe, but not to interfere with the story of the game, only fulfill it. :happy:

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EatChildren wrote...

I'm sure this will have been echoed in this thread, but since I haven't posted here yet (I dont think...) I'll voice my main concern.

To put simply, budget. Budget budget budget. Mass Effect, as an intellectual property, is one that demands a high budget if its going to be live action. Its sci-fi, set across numerous space locals, starring a cast of alien species, sci-fi equipment, etc etc etc.

To accomplish those special effects, in live action, you're going to need a mix of props and CGI. Budget starts going up because, well, these things are expensive if you want to do them well.

And that is my main concern; this is a videogame film. Historically, videogame films have been given the shaft by production companies. Even at their best, production companies wont invest an immense amount of financial resources into the project, as its too high risk. That means the Mass Effect film runs the risk of getting 'cheap' low budget (comparitively) special effects, in CGI and props. For Mass Effect, this is an issue, as the whole bloody thing is science fiction.

Essentialy, the entirety of what is Mass Effect demands a lot of props and CGI. Its not like other sci-fis grounded in realism, or using familiar locals (such as Earth), where you can get away with using every day locations, settings, and props. The whole thing needs to be a fabrication.

So yeah, those are my concerns. I'd rather no Mass Effect movie at all over a Mass Effect movie that looked like a cheap B-grade production. Unfortunately, I just dont see the production company investing all that much into videogame movie, at least not the amount I would like.

Fingers crossed BioWare and co can prove me wrong.

I second you on this subject. Lately I've been thinking maybe it'd be better to make the movie using CGI instead of live-action, but then I think about how awesome this movie can be if only it has good people working on it and (which is your main point, and once of my main points of concern) enough funding.

Though.... I've been watching Star Trek: Voyager lately, or rather re-watching, and they did make all Star Trek series pretty well. Something I'm usually all riled up about when it comes to sci-fi movies is that it's so obvious the stuff they use are, well, if not impossible, so at least very hard to imagine as 'real', while Star Trek has made their tech more or less believable. I'd like that element in the ME movie.

And if that's impossible, I'd rather see it made with the same CG they use to make the trailers.

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B-Man_N7 wrote...

I'm quite new to this topic and did not have the nerves to go through all 151 pages. ;)

Basically all videogames to movies deals were bad......I don't know how many of you remember Wing Commander game under Chris Roberts. And when he was dumped he made Wing Commander The movie starring Freddie Prince something...it was terrible, a complete disaster:sick:. Then we have Doom with The Rock starring...also disaster.:sick:

Now, one movie did make a huge success...Final Fantasy Spirits within. It was completly animated and top quality (even by todays standards), with some great voice acting.



Where are you getting your info from? Spirits Within was a great success?! LMAO! In what universe? I agree that most g2f movies are bad, but there are a few good ones.

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If the Shepard is male I am not watching it period. I do NOT want Shepard canonized as male. If they do I will not even recognize the movie existence. personally I would like the movie to revolve around some other protagonist that Shepard's actions effected.

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Tali better have her real voice!!!

And I hope Thane will be in the movie

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Eludajae wrote...

If the Shepard is male I am not watching it period. I do NOT want Shepard canonized as male. If they do I will not even recognize the movie existence. personally I would like the movie to revolve around some other protagonist that Shepard's actions effected.

Cool story, bro.

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Any updates from Chris Priestly, or someone else @ Bioware?

Don't feel like going thru ~151 pages of nonsense.:unsure::)

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kp- wrote...

Any updates from Chris Priestly, or someone else @ Bioware?

Don't feel like going thru ~151 pages of nonsense.:unsure::)


you can click on the bioware tag under a thread title in the main forum perspective to just display the OP and any post by "bioware tagged" people. :)

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I think it would be interesting to have the movie be a ME side story, sort of like the second ME book. It didn't really have a major impact on the storyline, Shepard was mentioned but only as a sort of shadowy, perhaps heroic icon that repelled Saren's Geth invasion.



I think it would be best to have something between ME 2 and ME 3. Unless you guys are really sure you can do well in a movie (recall the many past so-so at best attempts), I just don't see it being wise to start at around the ME 1 timeline.



It should be noted that I don't have any issues with other characters from ME 1/ME 2 appearing in the movie, bring in whoever you guys think is appropriate to the movie, but keep Shepard at a distance. Simply because thats the only one that really depends on who is playing the game. Seems most of the issues with game to movie is having the playable characters featured in the movie, or poor sci-fi to movie conversions.



Well good luck to you guys. You did great with ME 1 and ME 2, lets see if you can keep it up in the movie.