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[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

So anybody can confirm that Matthew Fox will indeed star as Shepard?

[DIrishB]

Marah_Fayne wrote...

DIrishB wrote...


But seriously, people, can we use a little common sense and logic, here?

Not likely - too much fantasy, and fandom 'round these parts.  People don't seem to understand how/why movies get made, or what kinds of movies studios want to make.  The biggest thing that people can't seem to understand is that the movie is NOT for the people on this board - that would be an utter financial failure (there's not enough of us).  

But, I think you are absolutely right: the story will be the story from ME1 (maybe even all three - depending on when the screenplay is written, although I hope not) in some derivative  or condensed form.

Kudos.  And I completely agree...we need to look outside just the fans on this board and look at movie-going audiences in general and answer the question: what would the audience want to see?  What made Mass Effect so epic as a video game, which of those qualities can be translated cinematically (damn near all of it if done right, with the exception of making choices specific to your Shep like in the games), and figuring out how to to do successfully.  It might sound simple, but its quite a daunting and challening task, especially with as dedicated and unforgiving a fanbase as ME has.


Despite the fact that most movies based on video games suck, I'm pretty optimistic about this.  First of all, Bioware being involved in the production is a great thing...it'll mean we probably won't see a lot of random changes to the existing stories or characters based on nothing more than the whims of studio execs, or what might or might not be more marketable.  I think Bioware and their writers (the ones directly involved with helping move production of the movie along) will keep a tight reign on upholding the sanctity of the characters and universe.

Also, given the huge acceptance and money making potential of super-hero/sci-fi/fantasy films over the last ten years, studios and execs are more willing to let directors/writers take more pronounced risks in terms of bringing their visions to the big screen, hoping for a better film and bigger pay-off.  It only took Hollywood almost a century to figure it out, but sometimes its best to actually let the artist tell the story intended, as opposed to tell the story which sells the most action figures.  After all, a blockbuster like the Dark Knight broke box office records and sailed past a billion in box office sales while retaining the nature of the character and universe and resulting in an incredible film.  And the merchandise sold well too, so for the studios it was a win-win.  I think that can be continued with Mass Effect.

The biggest challenge to this movie is the writing.  That may seem obvious to some, but to others it might not be.  What makes the ME universe so rich is the incredible story-telling Bioware puts into their games.  When writing a script for an ME movie, what do you include?  What do you ignore?  What do you expand upon?

See, you can't just adapt ME from the game word for word based on the game script, as that sacrifices a movie's pacing and beliveability.  And since ME is such an extensive game, it has to be condensed, meaning the story only allows for the major plot points of the first game.

And again, I really doubt the ME movie will focus on the First Contact War.  I think that'd be great, but they won't go that route as thats TOO untried and untested, whereas the plot of the first ME game is pretty much universally accepted as video game story-telling gold.  So, they're going to go the safe route and adapt the first game.  And yes, that means they'll have a canonized Shepard, which will be different from the canonized video game Shepard (from the trailers and box art), which is still different from yours and my version of Shep.  Alternate timelines would be my explanation. 



And no, its pretty unlikely they'll cast an actor to play Garrus' body, then have the guy from the video game lip-sync his voice, just to have it match up to the game.  Also, the actor who played Garrus in the game is unlikely to play the actual Garrus in the movie, since he's a voice actor and not a screen actor.  And even if they were willing, the studio would never pay two separate actors for a role that could just as easily have been performed by one actor.  Remember, just because a movie has a multi-million dollar budget, thats not an excuse to flush money down the drain.

[T7nowhere]

I know I'm kinda late to this one. but wth! Why do we need a Mass Effect movie. Hollywood that hard up for new Ideas.

Others said said this and I agree. I really hope that the movie has nothing to do with the Games story.

[upsettingshorts]

T7nowhere wrote...

I know I'm kinda late to this one. but wth! Why do we need a Mass Effect movie. Hollywood that hard up for new Ideas.
Others said said this and I agree. I really hope that the movie has nothing to do with the Games story.

Hollywood has adapted fiction from different mediums since the dawn of film.  It's nothing new - they're not "running out" of ideas.  Next time you're on IMDb check out how many different Cleopatra or King Kong movies have been made.

[stewie1974]

I don't know if it's been suggested before.... but rather than a big screen movie... why not a televison series? How are you going to cram all of mass effect into one big movie... how are you going to cram mass effect 2 into a movie? given even on a speed run completing all the missions takes at least 24 hours.... and most of the stories are episodic anyhow?

Isn't it better suited to television?

Truth is each episode could focus on particular characters , the movie most if not all of the characters bar shepard will have very little to do...

It could run for three seasons... each clocking in around 24 episodes... that should be the entire game trilogy... the season final of the first would be the attack on the citadel, season finale  of season 2 the collector base...etc... I just think the game is better suited to televison..... but too late now I guess.

Despite biowares convictions that they won't allow it to be ruined... it will be ruined by "screen time" or lack of...

I mean it's great bioware won't allow the universe to be "changed" but yeah, theres gonna be a hell of a lot missing....  can't have 12 strong characters in a single movie after all... so ME2 will be weird....

Modifié par stewie1974, 15 septembre 2010 - 12:51 .

[T7nowhere]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

T7nowhere wrote...

I know I'm kinda late to this one. but wth! Why do we need a Mass Effect movie. Hollywood that hard up for new Ideas.
Others said said this and I agree. I really hope that the movie has nothing to do with the Games story.

Hollywood has adapted fiction from different mediums since the dawn of film.  It's nothing new - they're not "running out" of ideas.  Next time you're on IMDb check out how many different Cleopatra or King Kong movies have been made.

Were talking about a story that was writen for an interact game. Not a retelling of an old story.

I don't want to see Sheperd in a movie becuase it will not be my Sheperd.

Movies based on games has not worked well. we all know that the majority of games based on movies are terrible. I'm more concerned about being disapointed by another crap movie/game tie in. 

[Marah_Fayne]

Recon911PDW wrote...

So, how long do you guys think it will be untill we get actual information about the movie? It has been what, 4 months?

No way to know, really.  Movies can languish in Hollywood for years - all it takes is a studio exec who's not quite sure it's "the right time" for the movie and there it sets.

You might find more information at internet movie sites.

[theBioticGod]

The Mass Effect universe is great and expansive, allowing something such as a movie become possible. Seeing that Legendary Pictures is creating it gives me a big spark of hope. Good luck.

Modifié par theBioticGod, 15 septembre 2010 - 02:20 .

[upsettingshorts]

T7nowhere wrote...

Were talking about a story that was writen for an interact game. Not a retelling of an old story.

I don't want to see Sheperd in a movie becuase it will not be my Sheperd.

Movies based on games has not worked well. we all know that the majority of games based on movies are terrible. I'm more concerned about being disapointed by another crap movie/game tie in. 

Guess what, Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings looked nothing like what I imagined in my mind when I read Tolkein.

Granted, I posted earlier that I don't want a Mass Effect movie to have much to do with Shepard.  Direct adaptations of video games fail for this reason:  They try to condense the plot and characters that we experienced or were meant to be experienced over 20-40 hours into 2.  I think they should do an original story in the same universe, with some of the same characters, but not try and adapt the story of the actual games released thus far.

[blondie shepherd]

if the shepperd is a bloke then i`ll not bother .. blondie shep been my friend far too long

[blondie shepherd]

i really hope they dont do one , it will be rubbish

[Aradace]

blondie shepherd wrote...

if the shepperd is a bloke then i`ll not bother .. blondie shep been my friend far too long

seeing as how they market ME with a MALE shepard it is VERY unlikely that if Shepard is in the movie at all that it will be a female.  Not saying that to be sexist, or an arse, or anything else.  Im just saying that from a "logical" standpoint.

[GuardianEdens]

I don't think they should use any known actors as shepard. any known actor would just play shepard as the same character they have played in every other movie. A completely unknown actor should play him, or you should get the voice actor for shepard to play shepard.

[upsettingshorts]

Again I return to my "the movie shouldn't be about Shepard at all" argument, for much the same reasons.

[YuriMk.III]

Mark Vanderloo anyone?

[upsettingshorts]

He's a model, not an actor.

[Aradace]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Again I return to my "the movie shouldn't be about Shepard at all" argument, for much the same reasons.

precisely, it should, if anything, be a prequel to ME1 centering around the First Contact War and other conflicts that shaped the ME universe.

[upsettingshorts]

Eh, the First Contact War doesn't strike me as particularly dramatic. And the galaxy, aside from Terra Firma, seems to have moved on - so it isn't compelling as a prequel either.

I'd prefer if they write an original story that takes place in the Mass Effect universe, but is new and purposely written as a 2-hour movie screenplay. Otherwise you're asking to run in to the same issues other video game adaptations do.

As fans, we're going to see the Mass Effect movie regardless. The challenge is making the story independently appealing on its own, with roles that can bring in big name actors. The latter is equally important to the story because there are lots of people out there who will only see a movie after receiving a satisfactory answer to "Oh, who is in that?"

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 15 septembre 2010 - 04:40 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Why does it matter if shep is in it?



It will just be "MOVIE Shepard". It wont step on anyones toes, anymore than watching a Lets Play on youtube ruins your Shepard's story.

[upsettingshorts]

For me it matters because that mean's they'll be trying to fit the story of a 20-30 hour game - or multiple 20-30 hour games into 2-hour films.



I've never seen a game adaptation do that and work as a movie. Fans of the game get annoyed by skipped over content, and people who didn't play the game are confused by the half-arsed story.

[Aradace]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Eh, the First Contact War doesn't strike me as particularly dramatic. And the galaxy, aside from Terra Firma, seems to have moved on - so it isn't compelling as a prequel either.

I'd prefer if they write an original story that takes place in the Mass Effect universe, but is new and purposely written as a 2-hour movie screenplay. Otherwise you're asking to run in to the same issues other video game adaptations do.

As fans, we're going to see the Mass Effect movie regardless. The challenge is making the story independently appealing on its own, with roles that can bring in big name actors. The latter is equally important to the story because there are lots of people out there who will only see a movie after receiving a satisfactory answer to "Oh, who is in that?"

I can personally count on one hand the amount of game-to-movie translations that didnt just flat out suck.  That doesnt mean they were good, it just means that they didnt suck as bas as say Double Dragon or Super Mario Brothers.  Even Prince of Persia sucked.  I know people are "hoping" the Mass Effect movie doesnt blow but let's face facts here, the liklihood of it NOT being bad is VERY slim at best.  I'll probably end up watching it just out of principle to say I watched it.  But I have absolutely no expectations nor delusions that it's going to be good even in the slightest

[upsettingshorts]

Indeed, I can hope against hope though that they'll break the trend and try out the original story angle.

[Aradace]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Indeed, I can hope against hope though that they'll break the trend and try out the original story angle.

To be honest, I think the true reason that Im going to go see it is just to see how much of a train wreck it ends up being.  Now, dont get me wrong.  Somewhere, someday, there WILL be a Game-to-Movie translations that hits big.  However, I dont believe Mass Effect will be it.  To be even more Frank, Halo has a better chance of actually being "good" than the Mass Effect Movie does (and I absolutely HATE Halo lol.)

[Willthisdo]

Male or Female?

Paragon or Renegade?

Single movie or trilogy?



Probably male. All game advertising is the male, right?

Most likely renegade. Bad good guys sell better than just good guys.

Only a trilogy can tell the game story, so let`s hope it`s something else...like the Blitz or First Contact War or the Arachni War.



Or..maybe the movie is a Post-Reaper invasion\\war setting to continue the Mass Effect franchise.



Whatever the answers, i`ll go see it once at least.

[darkangelx5-81]

that would be great but is it to much to ask for a female shepard if that involves the story please female.