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[Aradace]

darkangelx5-81 wrote...

that would be great but is it to much to ask for a female shepard if that involves the story please female.

Again, you guys can hope all you want but why would they "market" a male shepard but put a female shepard in a movie?  Once again, not trying to be "sexist" just trying to be logical.  Hope is good sometimes but keep logic at the forefront.

[darkangelx5-81]

i now but i can stil hope would be nice

[BigBody26]

I have seen a bunch of people mention the First Contact War and I am not reading through 160+ pages to see if anyone else has suggested this.



People have argued against the First Contact War and against following the games plot for obvious reasons. Now, they have created Mass Effect books. One, Revelations, centered around Captain Andersons mission he went on with Saren that he mentions in the first game. In that book you learn how Saren comes to learn about Sovereign and if made into a movie could be an excellent lead-in to a ME movie that does follow the video game story. We would get to see a couple of characters we are familiar with while also seeing a different story that sheds light on events leading up to the first video game. Could work.

[DIrishB]

Aradace wrote...

I can personally count on one hand the amount of game-to-movie translations that didnt just flat out suck.  That doesnt mean they were good, it just means that they didnt suck as bas as say Double Dragon or Super Mario Brothers.  Even Prince of Persia sucked.  I know people are "hoping" the Mass Effect movie doesnt blow but let's face facts here, the liklihood of it NOT being bad is VERY slim at best.  I'll probably end up watching it just out of principle to say I watched it.  But I have absolutely no expectations nor delusions that it's going to be good even in the slightest

The crappy video game to movies you mentioned (Super Mario Bros and Double Dragon) were terrible for a variety of reasons:  the first is that they had no business being made.  Super Mario Bros was changed from a light-hearted, fun kids' game of running and jumping into a movie about two brothers transported to a dystopian future and battling an evil dictator.  Talk about changing the basics. 

And thats why it failed...because the studio execs and writers apparently thought they could improve on the property by changing it almost completely...and then they wonder why it was viewed as a failure.

And Double Dragon is a pure beat 'em up...a guy's girl gets kidnapped and he goes after the kidnappers, kicking ass all the way...how do you add anything new or worthwhile to such a cliched, worn out, shallow story?

Mainly, the point was neither of those movies really had a story to tell...Mass Effect does.  It fact, it has many stories to tell.

In thinking all video game based movies suck, you're making a blanket statement which is mostly true, but not entirely.  You're also overlooking the fact that Bioware will be heavily involved in this movie, from the writing, storyboards, general direction, and hell, probably even the casting, meaning they'll hopefully bring the level of quality we're used to in their games to the first movie based on those games. 

Therefore, it can be reasonably assumed the studio and director will probably listen to Bioware's input regarding all those issues.  Granted, Bioware is a gaming company, not a movie studio, so there's that.  But, Bioware knows how to tell a damn good, compelling story with fully-fleshed out and believable characters.  Combining those talents with a studio (Legendary Pictures) who have a decent record of adaptations to film:  Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Watchmen, and 300 are all pretty good examples--that isn't to say all were great films, but each had merit and was fully backed by the studio to get the job done right. 

Watchmen is a perfect example of my point.  Legendary didn't think twice about the fact that one of the main characters of the film was a naked blue God who's naughty bits would be visible a fair portion of the time he was on screen.  Most studios would've forced the character into pants or a speedo, but Legendary didn't.  While thats a shallow example, it does show Legendary is willing to bow to the wishes of the filmmakers to make a better product, even in something as eye-brow raising as a blue penis in a superhero deconstructionist movie.

Hence, I think that with a studio like Legendary allowing a modicum of freedom for the writers, director(s), and actors, combined with bringing in the architects of the universe from Bioware to work in conjunction with them will result in a much better movie than most of us cynics expect.  I have faith in both Bioware and Legendary Pictures, so at this point there's no reason to be a pessimist, despite history's lessons.

Why do people overlook key factors when working out logic?  It defeats the purpose.

BigBody26 wrote...

I have seen a bunch of people mention the First Contact War and I am not reading through 160+ pages to see if anyone else has suggested this.

People have argued against the First Contact War and against following the games plot for obvious reasons. Now, they have created Mass Effect books. One, Revelations, centered around Captain Andersons mission he went on with Saren that he mentions in the first game. In that book you learn how Saren comes to learn about Sovereign and if made into a movie could be an excellent lead-in to a ME movie that does follow the video game story. We would get to see a couple of characters we are familiar with while also seeing a different story that sheds light on events leading up to the first video game. Could work.

It could work, sure, but it'd be boring.  Its not the main show (the main show being the introduction of the Reapers/Sovereign and their plan to wipe out all intelligent life in ME).  Thats the big seller.  Thats the milkshake that brings all the boys to the yard. 

Revelations is a nice lead-in to that, but on its own there's not much exciting or incredible or new that Revelations brought to the table.  It was a good read, but it'd probably be a very disappointing movie, especially to fans of Mass Effect who already have certain expectations pertaining to the game itself.

The novels are at best interquel adventures, tiding us over between game releases until the big, main adventures comes out in the games.  Why would you want to see a movie that doesn't focus on the big bad enemy, or the ultimate threat, with the best, most compelling story? 

Modifié par DIrishB, 15 septembre 2010 - 09:49 .

[Aradace]

@DIrish - Prince of Persia actually had a story too but it still sucked at the box office lol...My point still stands though. It is VERY unlikely that the Mass Effect Movie will be the one to "break the mold"

[DIrishB]

Aradace wrote...

To be honest, I think the true reason that Im going to go see it is just to see how much of a train wreck it ends up being.  Now, dont get me wrong.  Somewhere, someday, there WILL be a Game-to-Movie translations that hits big.  However, I dont believe Mass Effect will be it.  To be even more Frank, Halo has a better chance of actually being "good" than the Mass Effect Movie does (and I absolutely HATE Halo lol.)

I don't think a Halo or Mass Effect movie by definition will be better than the other.  I think there's a huge amount of potential in both universes, its just a challenge figuring out what material to use and how to make it work in a 2 hour movie.


I don't understand the Halo hate thats so prominent on message boards nowadays.  I guess its the cool think to do?

I love Halo, have ever since I played the first one.  I'm not a Halo fanatic (I'm only fair to middling in terms of skill level in the actual games), but I have read the majority of the spin-off material (novels and comics). 

I love the lurking aspect of Halo which pertains to the cost of creating the Spartans.  The whole story revolves around our military organization kidnapping 5-7 year old children, flash cloning them to replace them, and forcing the children to endure extreme hardships, violence, and potentially lethal operations to make them better soldiers.  Its a scary proposition that forces the audience to ask "What is survival worth?  Is it worth selling your soul?".  There's a lot of worthwhile gray-area story material to be mined in the Halo universe which could be used to make a gritty, hard sci-fi war movie.  The biggest test for a Halo movie would be finding just the right balance between the hardcore action and the few emotional character moments.

I won't go into it with Mass Effect, since I already have on several instances already and would probably only be saying stuff you already know.

But both potential movies have a lot going for them...I just hope they pull it off.

[DIrishB]

Aradace wrote...

@DIrish - Prince of Persia actually had a story too but it still sucked at the box office lol...My point still stands though. It is VERY unlikely that the Mass Effect Movie will be the one to "break the mold"

But why is it unlikely (besides past history)?  As I said, there are more than a few reasons why it could in fact break that mold. 

Right now, you're basically saying that because Batman & Robin (the 1997 movie) sucked, then Batman Begins or The Dark Knight should also have sucked.  That would be a safe presumption, but a presumption made without taking into account WHO is making the movie.  Joel Schumaker was a terrible choice to direct a super-hero movie, so his super-hero movie sucked.

I've already laid out why Bioware and Legendary working together should (based on past experience) result in a pretty decent flick.  I've only been blown away by one Legendary movie (The Dark Knight), but otherwise they have a very respectable track record in putting out quality movies, especially quality movies based on comics.  I don't doubt they could continue or even surpass that with the Mass Effect movie, especially with the Bioware team (Casey Hudson, etc) holding the reins.

[Aradace]

Firstly, no, I dont hate Halo "out of principle" like some do. I played the first one and just couldnt "get into it." Nothing wrong with it on a system or mechanical level or w/e, it just isnt my "cup 'o tea" I guess. But, I do agree and never contested your end point to begin with. I agree that both movies "have the potential" to be great especially Mass Effect. However, Im looking at it from a "statistical" PoV in that the liklihood of history repeating itself (yet again) and producing yet another craptastic Game to Movie translation is pretty high. I "hope" it does well but as I stated in my post you quoted me on, Im ultimately going to see it just to see how much of a trainwreck it ends up being. If it ends up being good then hey, I was wrong lol...But the liklihood of me being wrong about this, isnt very high because the "statistics" are with me unfortunately.

[Aradace]

DIrishB wrote...

Aradace wrote...

@DIrish - Prince of Persia actually had a story too but it still sucked at the box office lol...My point still stands though. It is VERY unlikely that the Mass Effect Movie will be the one to "break the mold"

But why is it unlikely (besides past history)?  As I said, there are more than a few reasons why it could in fact break that mold. 

Right now, you're basically saying that because Batman & Robin (the 1997 movie) sucked, then Batman Begins or The Dark Knight should also have sucked.  That would be a safe presumption, but a presumption made without taking into account WHO is making the movie.  Joel Schumaker was a terrible choice to direct a super-hero movie, so his super-hero movie sucked.

I've already laid out why Bioware and Legendary working together should (based on past experience) result in a pretty decent flick.  I've only been blown away by one Legendary movie (The Dark Knight), but otherwise they have a very respectable track record in putting out quality movies, especially quality movies based on comics.  I don't doubt they could continue or even surpass that with the Mass Effect movie, especially with the Bioware team (Casey Hudson, etc) holding the reins.

other than past history? there is no reason.  I can respect the "batman and robin" comparison but then again, those movies werent originally video games being translated to movies.  And that seems to be the only "genre" of movies that are actually "consistantly" bad.  Im not saying the movies IS going to suck, Im saying that it is very likely that it will.  Meaning I COULD be wrong.  I hope it isnt TBH, but the likelihood that it will is high unfortunately.

[DIrishB]

I completely agree about the chances of it sucking being pretty good (based on the history of videogames adapted to movies). I just have an inordinate amount of respect for Bioware and hope they'd put as much quality into their end of making the movie as their games, and offer suggestions/direction on how best to tackle certain challenges which might arise while making the movie. I'm just optimistic in this instance...

[Aradace]

DIrishB wrote...

. I'm just optimistic in this instance...

And I am unfortunately a cynical, and skeptical person by default that is a little bit of what I like to call an "Optimistic Pessimist" in terms of this movie: "Hope for the best, but expect the worst." lol

Modifié par Aradace, 15 septembre 2010 - 10:33 .

[Templar_Highlord]

Don't be so down folks about the movie folks. It could be a lot worse. Uwe Boll could have gotten his grubby hands on the rights. If he did, God help him!

[Aradace]

Templar_Highlord wrote...

Don't be so down folks about the movie folks. It could be a lot worse. Uwe Boll could have gotten his grubby hands on the rights. If he did, God help him!

Oh Im not "down" about it, Im just being "realistic" about it's chances lol

[KKrogans rule]

I'm curious to see how excactly they plan to make this movie mainly because of the choices you are allowed in the game. I'd assume that they will go paragon so that he's more of a lovable character. And if they get Seth Green as joker i'm gonna flip for joy

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

I can't stand dumb badass characters. Where are the good old hereos like Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker ? Nothing is worse then Kratos or Marcus Pheonix. For one good characters like Nico Bellic, you have 5 bad characters.



I rather watch a movie with Femshep too, a movie that goes away from the badass stereotype. A movie can't be good if it focus on some generic hero with a careless attitude with big muscles, big guns and who is threatening everybody to get the job done.

[Aradace]

arafinwe_ingalaure wrote...

I can't stand dumb badass characters. Where are the good old hereos like Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker ? Nothing is worse then Kratos or Marcus Pheonix. For one good characters like Nico Bellic, you have 5 bad characters.

I rather watch a movie with Femshep too, a movie that goes away from the badass stereotype. A movie can't be good if it focus on some generic hero with a careless attitude with big muscles, big guns and who is threatening everybody to get the job done.

Uh huh....And there's just as many against the whole "White Knight Nice guy" type too.  Sorry to tell you but chivalry is dead ....Or at least in a coma with severe internal bleeding lol

Modifié par Aradace, 16 septembre 2010 - 08:43 .

[PeakMoonLight]

The best cast for the upcoming Mass Effect Movie should be as follows:

Mass Effect Cast list"

Commander Shepard: Timothy Olyphant

Kaidan Alenko: Jensen Ackels

Ashley Williams: Danielle Panabaker

Garrus Vakarian: Jared Padlecki

Urdnot Wrex: Kevin Grevioux

Liara T'soni: Jennifer Morrison

Tali'zorah Nar Rayya: Liz Sroka

Captain Anderson: Keith David

Jeff "Joker" Moreau: Seth Green

Saren Arterius: Hugo Weaving

Matriarch Benezia: Marina Sirtis





Nothing beats this list of actors that I've put together. With a cast like that for the first movie I know It'll be an epic movie. And for the second movie since it's a suicide mission get another great list like this:

Mass Effect 2 Cast List"

Commander Shepard: Timothy Olyphant

Jeff "Joker" Moreau: Seth Green

Garrus Vakarian: Jared Padlecki

Tali'zorah Vas Neema: Liz Sroka

Captain Anderson: Keith David

Illusive Man: Martin Sheen

Miranda Lawson: Yvonne Strahovski

E.D.I: Tricia Helfer

Jacob Taylor: Omar Epps

Samara: Nicollette Sheridan

Legion: D.C. Douglas

Thane Krios: Keanu Reeves

Urdnot Grunt: Steve Blum

Professer Mordin Solus: Zach Braff

Jack (Subject-Zero): Natalie Portman

Zaeed Massani: Robin Sachs

Kasumi Goto: Lucy Liu

Modifié par PeakMoonLight, 16 septembre 2010 - 09:32 .

[PeakMoonLight]

The best cast for the upcoming Mass Effect Movie should be as follows:
Mass Effect Cast list"
Commander Shepard: Timothy Olyphant
Kaidan Alenko: Jensen Ackels
Ashley Williams: Danielle Panabaker
Garrus Vakarian: Jared Padlecki
Urdnot Wrex: Kevin Grevioux
Liara T'soni: Jennifer Morrison
Tali'zorah Nar Rayya: Liz Sroka
Captain Anderson: Keith David
Jeff "Joker" Moreau: Seth Green
Saren Arterius: Hugo Weaving
Matriarch Benezia: Marina Sirtis


Nothing beats this list of actors that I've put together. With a cast like that for the first movie I know It'll be an epic movie. And for the second movie since it's a suicide mission get another great list like this:
Mass Effect 2 Cast List"
Commander Shepard: Timothy Olyphant
Jeff "Joker" Moreau: Seth Green
Garrus Vakarian: Jared Padlecki
Tali'zorah Vas Neema: Liz Sroka
Captain Anderson: Keith David
Illusive Man: Martin Sheen
Miranda Lawson: Yvonne Strahovski
E.D.I: Tricia Helfer
Jacob Taylor: Omar Epps
Samara: Nicollette Sheridan
Legion: D.C. Douglas
Thane Krios: Keanu Reeves
Urdnot Grunt: Steve Blum
Professer Mordin Solus: Zach Braff
Jack (Subject-Zero): Natalie Portman
Zaeed Massani: Robin Sachs
Kasumi Goto: Lucy Liu

[MEisthebestgameiveeverplayed]

PeakMoonLight wrote...

Nothing beats this list of actors that I've put together. With a cast like that for the first movie I know It'll be an epic movie. And for the second movie since it's a suicide mission get another great list like this:
Mass Effect 2 Cast List"
Commander Shepard: Timothy Olyphant
Jeff "Joker" Moreau: Seth Green
Garrus Vakarian: Jared Padlecki
Tali'zorah Vas Neema: Liz Sroka
Captain Anderson: Keith David
Illusive Man: Martin Sheen
Miranda Lawson: Yvonne Strahovski
E.D.I: Tricia Helfer
Jacob Taylor: Omar Epps
Samara: Nicollette Sheridan
Legion: D.C. Douglas
Thane Krios: Keanu Reeves
Urdnot Grunt: Steve Blum
Professer Mordin Solus: Zach Braff
Jack (Subject-Zero): Natalie Portman
Zaeed Massani: Robin Sachs
Kasumi Goto: Lucy Liu

KEANU-****ING-REAVES TO PLAY THANE-****ING-KRIOS?!? I WILL KILL A SMALL CHILD BEFORE THIS HAPPENS.

[CmdrKankrelat]

The above list looks pretty good. It's not unrealistically star-studded, and many of those actors hold promise. Timothy Olyphant is a possibility I have not heard name-dropped before (nice to see some variety, given that last time I checked in here the conversation seemed to be dominated by Matt Fox and Christian Bale). Judging by Olyphant's filmography and looks, I think he could be a contender. I like the fact that you included many of the games' VA's reprising their actual roles, and while my personal preference is that they CGI the aliens and use Panasonic's motion-capture technology for them, while keeping the original VA's, I respect your choices there. The only thing I disagree with is having the two leads from Supernatural playing two major characters.

[Wurble]

My prediction as to what they'll cut and so forth from the plotline.



1) Movie starts with Eden Prime. Tali found there on Pilgrimage, has recording of Saren. Might meet Ashley, or Ashley might be cut from cast. Kaiden definitely cut from cast.

2) Next segment in citadel. Skip whole segment where Shepard has to prove Saren guilty since he already has evidence. Meets up with Garrus who is assigned to go with him, Wrex likely cut from cast. Shepard made into first human Spectre.

3) They go to Therum to meet up with Liara who is Prothean expert. They save her and she points them to the relay to Ilos. Noveria skipped as will plot about Liara's mom. Feros DEFINITELY skipped. Virmire likely skipped as well since it requires the whole Krogan back story and Wrex.

4) Goes to Ilos, finds out about Reapers. Chases Saren back to Citadel for final sequence. Paragon Ending. Anderson Councilor.



If they cut Ashley, Liara may be love interest for Shepard. If they don't cut Ashley, either Ashley will be love interest or they might do love triangle thing.



Not sure if they will work Cerberus into the plot or not.

[JamesMoriarty123]

Paul Walker AKA The Wooden Man. **** that ****. Ed Norton or Nathan Fillion for Shepherd all day.

[Deturis90]

... I support Jorge Garcia as a Shepard in Mass Effect Movie !

[Ashii6]

Deturis90 wrote...

... I support Jorge Garcia as a Shepard in Mass Effect Movie !

No cookies for you, Deturis. Sorry.