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[Titan1978]

Matthew Fox will HAVE to be AKA Commander Shephard!!!!

[Doveberry]

I would love a Mass Effect movie about the First Contact War. That could have the potential of becoming genuinely awesome in my opinion. I do hope that they don't just retell the story of the games, though. Too much room for screwups.

[Master_Anthony]

Doveberry wrote...

I would love a Mass Effect movie about the First Contact War. That could have the potential of becoming genuinely awesome in my opinion. I do hope that they don't just retell the story of the games, though. Too much room for screwups.

Wouldn't be a good movie. First, it would be just another humans mmeet aliens movie. Second, both sides come out looking like douchebags; that doesn't make for a good movie.

[ryu paladin1]

it is simple...kill the consort



to be honest, who really cares wqhen the movie is based, i dont expect much from this movie, nor will i have high hopes, legendary pictures are usually low budget, but if they put in as much work as those nobodies who created the movie 'Pandorum', i will not be disappointed, most likely you follow the events after mass effect 3 either as shepard or some usless idiot, prehaps if it isnt in ME3 you help retake the Quarian Homeworld. or unite the krogan?, meh it is up to biowares peeps to figure out the technicalities

[azerSheppard]

ryu paladin1 wrote...

it is simple...kill the consort

to be honest, who really cares wqhen the movie is based, i dont expect much from this movie, nor will i have high hopes, legendary pictures are usually low budget, but if they put in as much work as those nobodies who created the movie 'Pandorum', i will not be disappointed, most likely you follow the events after mass effect 3 either as shepard or some usless idiot, prehaps if it isnt in ME3 you help retake the Quarian Homeworld. or unite the krogan?, meh it is up to biowares peeps to figure out the technicalities

Pandorum ruled, the ending just made me go WTF?! I did not see that coming xd:alien:

[Reiisha]

The movie will be about Colonel Shepard on a remote colony on Mars. He finds a black monolith that sends him to Jupiter where he fights the original race that populated Earth and Mars, the Jovians. He then proceeds to have sex with one of them (the Jovians are a blue female-only race with tentacle heads) before he's launched towards an asteroid that is on a collision course to Earth. The asteroid is revealed to be a huge plot from a mad scientists who wants to take over the world (OF COURSE!), and the Jovians and Shepard stop it, day is saved and a sequel is foreshadowed by showing a Klingon Bird of Prey after the end credits entering the solar system.







I know it hurts, but as soon as Bioware makes a single concession, the movie will be Mass Effect in name alone. It will happen.

[Kurt M.]

Reiisha wrote...

I know it hurts, but as soon as Bioware makes a single concession, the movie will be Mass Effect in name alone. It will happen.

I second that advice. Be careful, Bioware.

As Garrus would say, it'll be either a movie to treasure, or a cross-interested (money/fans) ackwardness thing.

[Dannyyx]

If it is in the same mould as Watchmen, great. If its anything like Transformers or the Star Wars prequels,  it will be like being told Santa doesn't exist................... all over again. Please don't let George Lucas anywhere near it. This is  either going be brilliant or utterly cr@p.

Modifié par Dannyyx, 24 octobre 2010 - 01:32 .

[Kurt M.]

Ah, yes, and another suggestion from my part...(surely already said, but it's SO crucial that I don't bother on insisting):

Please, make EVERYONE who's minimally responsible and/or making the movie and/or on this project to play ME1 and ME2, AT LEAST 2 FULL playthoughs (ideally one Paragon and one Renegade), and insist on them reading all the Codex entries. Primary and Secondary ones.

Just an advice, though...

Modifié par Gladiador2, 24 octobre 2010 - 07:54 .

[Reiisha]

I wonder whether anyone has seen the 2010 Tekken movie. Honestly, that's the way i see the Mass Effect movie going.



And yes, that movie was even worse than.... Dragonball Evolution. *shudder*

[Astralify]

Persephone wrote...

Not surprising. The cinematic trailer is a movie trailer and the best trailer I've seen so far. But I do have to wonder about certain things:

1) Since there is no Shepard based canon (Unless I missed something?), what will the script be like? I prefer Fem Shep, as there are already billions of movies with Male Shep like über tough marines.

2) Based on the game itself, the story is amazing. How much power do LP have re: casting, writing & directing? Bioware did well with the game but Hollywood has an awful track record of trying to fix what ain't broken and the results are usually garbage.

3) Given that LP is huge in the biz, we'll probably have big names in the movie. Which can be good AND bad. Go for talent, folks, not fame. Jennifer Hale IS an actress too, *HINT* *HINT*

I'm really thrilled. This could be HUGE for Bioware, the franchise & us fans. Bioware, for the love of the Maker, don't squander this opportunity!!!

That. I prefer Fem Shep. Got tired of movies with male super hero bla-bla... A strong woman is the best choise for Shepard's role and Mass Effect story. And hell who said that it has to be just one movie? It could be a trilogy. And I also like the idea the movie to be based on the finding of the first mass relais and the first contact war. Interesting...Many ideas...

[PAYMO]

You know what will be really good about this? It is that this movie is NOT a game based motion picture. That's right. Instead base on the game, the movie should base on novel of expand universe. This way, it will receive a better review.

[Turkey Braveheart]

Dannyyx wrote...

If it is in the same mould as Watchmen, great. If its anything like Transformers or the Star Wars prequels,  it will be like being told Santa doesn't exist................... all over again. Please don't let George Lucas anywhere near it. This is  either going be brilliant or utterly cr@p.

Personally, I'd be happy with a Neil Blomkamp, JJ Abrams or Zack Snyder. As near as I can tell though there all busy so it'll probably just be a reliable action director. If it's any consolation, I don't think George will direct anything for a LONG time. Another reason why that's good, he probably won't ever make a KOTOR movie.

[Getorex]

Titan1978 wrote...

Matthew Fox will HAVE to be AKA Commander Shephard!!!!

He'd be OK but I'd also not mind a newcomer. In any case, NOT just some pretty boy.

My biggest desire/hope for the movie is that it is taken seriously, the way the Lord of the Rings was taken seriously. No camp, no cheese. Treat it as if the universe depicted is real, make the characters REAL, not cartoonish.

Do it right and it is the next Star Wars (multiple big movies, iconic). Do it wrong and it becomes just another video game turned B-movie without intending to be a B-movie. That's the worst possible outcome.

[Getorex]

PAYMO wrote...

You know what will be really good about this? It is that this movie is NOT a game based motion picture. That's right. Instead base on the game, the movie should base on novel of expand universe. This way, it will receive a better review.

And this bold statement about what garners a "good review" comes from where exactly? The game series is critically acclaimed. From this there is no basis to the claim that it wont get a good review if it follows the winning game story.

Making it about some obscure side portion of the story, or some background story, is a loser because ONLY the most major of the uber ME fans would even have a clue (or love) for what the movie is about. The game story itself is a winner because it has what ALL good stories have: a beginning, a middle, and end. It has a single overarching theme and enemy to go with it. A backstory movie would just hang there all by itself without any context for the vast bulk of the movie audience and lock the movie into a rather small audience of ONLY those who have played, and liked, the game itself.

The movie should be setup from day 1 the same way that LoTR was: a trilogy (at LEAST) with good parts of ALL three movies filmed nearly simultaneously so there is no long gap between releases and no danger of retcon being made essential to make them work together.

Only AFTER the main trilogy sets up the entire thing should backstory and side stories be considered. At that point you have tied the audience to the movie universe and gained their interest.

[Getorex]

AwesomeName wrote...

^Same, I think a strong female lead would be far more impressive... The only problem is that unless it's performance capture CG movie, I don't think they'd pull it off as well as the games. In the games, virtually all of femshep's animations are shared with the male's, so she doesn't punch unconvincingly like a spice girl... thanks to that, her commanding physicality seems more impressive coming from a woman.

With performance capture they wouldn't have to worry about a good female actress not being able to do all the action stuff, since they could just get someone else to do them - a guy even.

If they do performance capture and go female, I'd suggest Hilary Rhoda for the face, some female athlete for the body, jennifer hale for the voice/facial acting, and someone else to do the physical action

Women don't have "commanding physicality" in the way this role calls for. It is fine for cartoonish movies (Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, all the Underworld movies, etc, etc, etc - there is no shortage of cutsy/hotsy lead women adventure roles...but they all have the same thing in common - unbelievability but that's fine given the nature of the film. NONE of these movies takes itself seriously).

This is why I tend to shy away from this thread - because the oddball femshep fetishists lock on and keep going on and on about some hot bod shep that is nice to look at but totally unconvincing concerning believability. I want to BELIEVE the movie is real for the two hours or so I am there - I don't want to be shaking my head (overtly or inside) thinking side thoughts like "yeah right, she can do that" or "yeah, that huge tough guy/creature is going to be intimidated by little ole her". Ridiculous. Even the most physically fit yoga body chick isn't physically intimidating. Nice to look at, nice to touch, but scary/tough/intimidating? Nah. Still have small bones and weak muscles too, no matter how much steriods a chick might take. Can't escape the biology of sexual dimorphism.

Of course, it would also be fatally stupid and unbelievable to place some prime hollywood pretty boy in his twenties or early 30s into the Shep role too - commander's are never ever less than late 30s - doesn't happen, ever. A COMMANDER is invariably late 30s, early 40s at best.

[Getorex]

Astralify wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Not surprising. The cinematic trailer is a movie trailer and the best trailer I've seen so far. But I do have to wonder about certain things:

1) Since there is no Shepard based canon (Unless I missed something?), what will the script be like? I prefer Fem Shep, as there are already billions of movies with Male Shep like über tough marines.

2) Based on the game itself, the story is amazing. How much power do LP have re: casting, writing & directing? Bioware did well with the game but Hollywood has an awful track record of trying to fix what ain't broken and the results are usually garbage.

3) Given that LP is huge in the biz, we'll probably have big names in the movie. Which can be good AND bad. Go for talent, folks, not fame. Jennifer Hale IS an actress too, *HINT* *HINT*

I'm really thrilled. This could be HUGE for Bioware, the franchise & us fans. Bioware, for the love of the Maker, don't squander this opportunity!!!

That. I prefer Fem Shep. Got tired of movies with male super hero bla-bla... A strong woman is the best choise for Shepard's role and Mass Effect story. And hell who said that it has to be just one movie? It could be a trilogy. And I also like the idea the movie to be based on the finding of the first mass relais and the first contact war. Interesting...Many ideas...

Who cares what you think? Sheesh. You people who are so locked on femshep (unbelievable as an intimidating physical presence, sorry, just the facts in the real world) don't seem to get to the movies much. There are AT LEAST as many leading women superhero types as there are dudes. Hell, Jolie makes a near career out of it. So does Milla Jovovich, and a buttload of other hotties. That's what you want, actually, an unrealistic MILITARY commander/combatant who is a hot fem with tight ass and all who is also physically intimidating? Where is this creature? The old Soviet Union's female (steroided up) weightlifting team?

Jolie, Milla, etc, etc, can never ever be actually intimidating. Just hot to look at. It is gimmicky to use them in superhero roles. Hell, even with Alien and Aliens, Sigourney Weaver was fairly hot (and we got to see her in her undies!) The only time she was realistically PHYSICALLY intimidating was when she was in the mech loader gizmo. Otherwise, just a thin woman with nice muscle ... for a girl.

That said, it would be a gross error to make the proper MALE shep an Ahnold Schwartzy type, or a pretty boy toy. If the movie is going to be done with proper respect for the audience and the story, and treat it as if it is real rather than an overt game-turned-movie, then the male shep should be late 30s, early 40s, rugged, muscled but not steroidal, and LOOK military. If you want believability rather than camp or cutesy, then femshep is a nonstarter. Not realistic, not believable in a movie that takes itself and the story seriously.

The iconic Shep is the one from the trailers, the one on the cover, the one the writers actually had in mind when they created the whole thing.

[sevalaricgirl]

Women are not intimidating. Really? Frankly, you haven't seen my jacket for work. I'm considered intimidating and aggressive. I work in engineering, a male dominated industry, and it is the men who are complaining about my intimidating aggressiveness. There are women in the Israel military and women who can shoot just as well or better than men and can handle weapons, check out the show Top Shot.

One more thing, who wants Jolie or any of those in the movie.  There are plenty of female actresses who are not what today's interpretation of hot who are damned good actresses.  I'm really sick of this attitude that women have to be twigs to act.  FemShep is believable if they choose the right actress.

Modifié par sevalaricgirl, 25 octobre 2010 - 03:11 .

[Getorex]

sevalaricgirl wrote...

Women are not intimidating. Really? Frankly, you haven't seen my jacket for work. I'm considered intimidating and aggressive. I work in engineering, a male dominated industry, and it is the men who are complaining about my intimidating aggressiveness. There are women in the Israel military and women who can shoot just as well or better than men and can handle weapons, check out the show Top Shot.

One more thing, who wants Jolie or any of those in the movie.  There are plenty of female actresses who are not what today's interpretation of hot who are damned good actresses.  I'm really sick of this attitude that women have to be twigs to act.  FemShep is believable if they choose the right actress.

Look, I'm sure you are very "socially intimidating" in work settings, but sorry, I'm military. I have never ever seen a female that is physically intimidating (ever) except MAYBE Soviet steroidal weightlifter women, and even then... That includes your Israeli mil chicks. They are good with guns (anyone can be good with most guns) but physically intimidating? Not at all. I am never intimidated by someone who masses half my weight and only a fraction of my physical strength. Being able to shoot straight has nothing to do with the physical presence necessary to intimidate someone (particularly those as big, or bigger, than oneself). That's just the nature of the situation. Sure, I am deferential and respectful to women commanders because that's the nature of military service but there's a difference there. If they had to physically intimidate in order to hold command or respect of command, then they would ALL be in trouble.

And clothes? Seriously, your outfit is intimidating or aggressive? Your outfit. And amongst engineers...I know engineers and sure, it is fairly easy to intimidate even male engineers. Always has been the case Ya don't have to be a butch woman to do that. Any farmboy who tosses feed bags and haybales on his offtime can do that just looking at them.

I didn't say anything about women needing to be twigs to act. The fact is, however, that even the most physically fit woman (nontwig) is NOT physically intimidating. They just aren't. They look good, and can do things no average woman can do but being physically intimidating or being able to manhandle anyone but a skinny engineer kid is outside the physical parameters or reality (and yes, I even know karate chicks...none are intimidating).

Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2 was well built (and hot) and she played the role well but she wasn't physically intimidating nor capable of tossing (or headbutting) a reasonably fit guy who would still outmass her and outstrength her regardless of her gym workouts.

This is kinda drifting off into besides the point land. A realistic shepard who had to be physically commanding and intimidating (when called for) and be able to manually beat the crap out of one or more big guys wouldn't be a female. It just isn't in the biological parameters of smaller frames, smaller, thinner bones, smaller muscles (even with weightlifting), narrow shoulders lacking upper body strength, etc. All those things are required for broad physical intimidation and command amongst the soldier class.

Granted, the soldier/combatant class is a far cry from the engineer class, or business class, etc, but that is the world, by nature, that the Shep in ME works in.

Modifié par Getorex, 25 octobre 2010 - 03:35 .

[Getorex]

sevalaricgirl wrote...

Women are not intimidating. Really? Frankly, you haven't seen my jacket for work. I'm considered intimidating and aggressive. I work in engineering, a male dominated industry, and it is the men who are complaining about my intimidating aggressiveness. There are women in the Israel military and women who can shoot just as well or better than men and can handle weapons, check out the show Top Shot.

One more thing, who wants Jolie or any of those in the movie.  There are plenty of female actresses who are not what today's interpretation of hot who are damned good actresses.  I'm really sick of this attitude that women have to be twigs to act.  FemShep is believable if they choose the right actress.

Quick side note: I apologize if I'm pissing you off or offending you as I really do not intend this. I am also probably the wrong guy to have this discussion/argument with because:

1) I'm military (and a combat veteran) and have been serving since you were (very high likelihood) in Jr High.

2) I've been lifting weights and going to the gym for longer than you've been alive (very high likelihood). I've known many bodybuilders, male and female. The females have been hot (but then I like women with muscle and tone) and, as you can imagine given they were bodybuilders, strong but... None of them were intimidating. Even if they wanted to be they wouldn't have been (to me or any of my cohort in the gym or in the military). None of them were even 2/3s as strong as I am in any area of strength and I've never been a bodybuilder - just a dedicated gym head. Now, I am currently friends with a woman at my local gym who is a bodybuilder. She's magnificant. She's strong, lean, smokin' hot. She is there almost every day (a painful fact for bodybuilders) and happily is not on roids. In spite of this, in spite of her dedicated hard work, while she is easily far more powerful than ANY other girl in the gym, this is not the case vs around half the guys who are merely what I refer to as "dilettantes" - guys who dabble in weightlifting/gym workouts for minor cosmetic reasons and because they figure it makes them manlier to be able to say "I work out". These guys barely suffice to be my spotter but most of them, in spite of their dabbler status, are still stronger than she is. Why do I mention this? Because it is the biological fact that comes with having testosterone-producing testicles and physical size and strength is a key aspect to being able to be intimidating or present a strong physical presence.

Could my female friend, the bodybuilder physically intimidate these guys? Some of them, sure. Mainly those with fairly low self confidence or low self esteem (a respectful guy would back off/back down out of simple courtesy because to get her into that state he had to have done/said something stupid). Could she be an example of a realistic fem Shep? Still no - and I guarantee you she is definitely more powerful than any viable female actor you could present as a possible fem Shep.

Then there's the female cops I'm friends with. These are REAL WORLD WOMEN WITH GUNS AND TRAINING. A couple are civilian and a couple are military police. Naturally, they are good with guns. They CARRY handguns (civies) or M4 rifles (military) as a part of their jobs. Are they intimidating on a physical or psychological level? No on the former, possibly on the latter depending on the subject in focus and the situation. The simple fact is that if for some super bizarro reason they were up against me in some sort of aggressive situation, they would not be able to physically intimidate me nor could any of them physically manipulate me into submission (without getting a taser on me). Hell, none of them is over 5'7" or 125lbs (no I am not some monstrous 6'4" football lineman type guy, just 5'10", 205lbs). How can that ever be intimidating or provide "physical presence"? They are supremely competent and I like and respect them all (and REALLY like one of them) but if I had to consider their ability to physically intimidate me or anyone else comparable, I just don't see it. Guns or no guns, training or no training. Yelling doesn't do it. Flashing a badge can garner respect and acquiescence but that is not the same as physical intimidation or physical presence and the power that naturally derives from that.

Mind, you could (as an engineer) rig a setup for Stephen Hawking's wheelchair, for instance, that would allow him to aim and shoot a handgun or rifle, probably with pretty deadeye accuracy. This wouldn't turn Hawking into an intimidating presence or give him physical presence. Guns don't equate. You yourself could dress in full ACU battle gear with level IV body armor and carry an M4 rifle and it would not transform you into a physically intimidating person or give you an intimidating physical presence. It would make you dangerous, sure, it would mean that most people would do as you say if you presented the threat of using the M4, but that is not the same thing as physical intimidation or physical presence. There's a psychological aspect to physical intimidation or presence that doesn't come with simply having a strong personality or packing a weapon. Women, even prime cut workout women, have a problem producing this presence just as scrawny guys can't carry it off either.

In the end, a Fem Shep would mean the actual nature of the role would have to change to exclude most physical hand-to-hand, headbutting, body-tossing, type action and replace it with pulling a weapon in order to be believable. A Fem Shep wouldn't be able to pull off a headbutt of a Krogan (It was iffy for male Shep too, by the way...like headbutting a rhino - same thing went for my male shep stating "I guess we have to do this the hard way" and then trying to punch out the Shadowbroker. NO WAY. No way for a male Shep, certainly no way for a fem Shep. It's like trying to punch out a rhino - ain't gonna happen and would merely ****** off the rhino and get you gored that much faster).

This is ALL likely overanalyzing the whole thing as it is just a game (and potential movie) but...I am hoping that the movie is done in a realistic manner, ie, take the universe presented and work with it as if it were real and make the characters real (and realistic). This being the case, a fem Shep acting the way Shep acted in many parts of the game is simply not realistic. I don't want a campy movie. I don't want a cutesy movie. I want a "Blackhawk Down" gritty, realistic movie set in a well thought-out, well designed, self-consistent sci-fi universe. I would like to be able to accept the action as (mostly) realistic and not have to consciously or subconsciously shake my head and think, "bull crap", which is what happens when I see a female lead doing things that are physically impossible to highly unlikely for a female (I don't like impossible acts from guys either but impossible acts for a guy are not the same as those for a female).

Modifié par Getorex, 25 octobre 2010 - 06:32 .

[Dazaster Dellus]

^ haha! I like that last paragraph

[Dazaster Dellus]

IMO, get so tired of people complaining that there should be a female Shepard. I don't have anything against female Shep. What I have a problem with is the complaining and the making it a bigger issue than it needs to be. I rarely hear people say "oh it be a female Shep because ......" and say something smart. It usually degrades right off the bat into them saying something about how "there are very few woman leads", "This is a male run society", "Why are there always men?" or something else overly exaggerated and/or extremely feminist. Instead of using logic they use biased emotion which doesn't validate their argument any more. It actually breaks it down.



Oh and as others have already said, there are plenty of women who have lead roles and plenty of movies with with bad ass women characters, etc. That is a fact. Another fact is that not all of them do so well. IMO as I said before in this thread, this movie would not fit a Female Shepard. I think the role is better suited for a Male.

[Omega-202]

 The fact of the matter in regards to FemShep is that its a well established fact that action/adventure films with a female lead always gross less at the box office than a very similar movie with a male lead.  

The film industry knows this.  They are well aware of this fact.  
There's a reason that on the same $110 million budget, Salt made 1/2 the money that Bourne Ultimatum made.  
Its the same reason that Warner Bros. decided to push off a Wonder Woman film and instead went ahead with Green Lantern.  

In terms of shear ecomomics, it makes no sense to go with FemShep.