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Ultimately, my argument is simply that Shep will be a male, COULD be a female if slightly modified, which the script WILL be anyway for a movie. They are NOT going to simply take the game script and add more dialog to it and that's it.

I hate to use the word "canonical" because is sounds like a f*ckin' religious thing but "canonically" Udina is the human counciller, Shepard is a male (all the announcement trailers, all the cover art, the writing - particularly in ME2), and LI...can't quite figure BUT I suspect it is Liara (certainly for the ME1 to movie).

The movie COULD be handled like a superhero-ish movie, which would be too bad, but it is a possibility given the director is known for his superhero movie "The Dark Night".


Well shepard isn't canonically male (that's a marketing/default shepard, but not a canonical one - and, no, those aren't the same thing).  Ironically a couple of your posts above might just represent why I would love to see a female lead (unmodified) - to break the rules, to crap on the status quo and to tear through people's pre-conceptions about women and how they "should behave".  That might not be realistic to you, but it's a movie, and movies are about escapism.  I can't stand how most movies with heroine protagonists aren't that good, but what if they did it right with this film like they have with the game.

Btw, since when was Christopher Nolan directing??  So far I thought only Avi Arad was attached to this thing (Iron Man, X-men, etc.).  So far this thing looks like it'll probably just be a mainstream blockbuster action film, and most probably will have a male lead.  Not sure this is a good thing...


Eh? I would swear that the guy doing it was involved with the latest Batman - Can anyone link or confirm one way or another? X-man, Batman...either way it means superhero movie director which means a superhero-ish either way. X-men and Batman I liked and all but I REALLY don't want THIS movie to be like those. Those movies are comic books brought to the screen. Comic books, by their nature, tend to be over-the-top and, frankly, silly. Of course, as we all know, computer games brought to movies don't fare as well as comic books. They come out equally over-the-top but with much worse acting (mainly due to the predations of Uwe Boll but not exclusively).

I just don't want over-the-top comic booky. I keep saying it but what I'd like to see is something of dark quality and NO over-the-topishness like "Alien" or "Bladerunner". I can picture, unfortunately, X-men dressed up in Mass Effect clothes. Storm comes off as a biotic, as do the other magical power wielders. It is a fun movie and all but the wrong way to go here. Indestructible people are BORING.

Not happening and all BUT...I would have loved for Peter Jackson to have been the one. He did a damn fine job with LotR and I would trust him to do a good job here.

Modifié par Getorex, 31 octobre 2010 - 05:23 .


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I find it hard to directly compare Chris Nolan's Dark knight style of film making to X-men's and other comic book film, not even close. Chris Nolan has shown himself to be a visionary at directing these movies. i think that he could potentially create a very good film in this case.

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In response to Getorex:



Legendary Pictures is the studio behind the ME movie project. They are the same studio that did the new Batman movies.



Avi Arad is the producer for the ME movie project. He produced essentially all of the Marvel films. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Arad



Christopher Nolan has nothing to do with this project and in all likelihood, he wouldn't touch it. He has a lot on his plate for the next few years and is way too big for the studios to want to risk the money on him.



In regards to the "comic booky" style, there are going to be elements of it, because Mass Effect inherently has some of those elements. ME is rife with deus ex machina and silly plot points. The combat can't end up looking like a real life fire fight if they want to keep the rating at PG-13 and the heroes are going to be invulnerable and over the top until their "plot armor" disappears. That's just how successful action movies work.

They can't go all "Saving Private Ryan" or "Hurt Locker" on this movie. It would be just as much of a betrayal to the source material as a goofy caricature flick would be.



But irrelevant of that, Getorex, you're really starting to take this a bit far. We get your point of view on this matter and between the "no FemShep" repetition and the complete mix up of facts, each one of your posts is just getting more and more grating.




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Getorex wrote...

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There's no need to argue over gender.
It isn't a big deal considering the fact that Sheperd probably won't be in the movie anyways.

Just consider all the effort BioWare has put into respecting player choices in the past: In the KOTOR comics, the face of the first game's protagonist is never shown and gender pronouns are never used. More recently, in the Mass Effect: Redemption comic, Sheperd is literally carried around in a box, and one character even says "hard to tell if it's even a man or a woman".

BioWare will not include Sheperd in the film because they don't want to establish a "Canon Version" of Sheperd. Doing so would alienate the players who make different choices, thus defeating the whole purpose of an open ended RPG experience. More likely topics than Sheperd's exploits are the First Contact War against the Turians or some of Captain Anderson's history as an N7 agent, either of which would probably be way more interesting than an ME (1 or 2) rehash anyways.


Sadly, they'll probably break the rule with this movie for the sake of money...  I heard earlier in this thread they bought the rights to ME1 specifically.


There's several issues that ya'll ignore. First, by the time the movie hits theaters, we will all have played out ME3. It will not be as if the franchise is continuing and anything they do in the movie will wreck current game players. By then you and everyone else will be on some NEW DA game, or whatever. ME3 will be history so it is irrelevant if they make a movie of the game and choose a Shepard that is at odds with anyone here. By then most of ya'll will have moved on to the next big game.

Second, they are NOT making this movie to please or entertain US. the ME fan and gamers. They are making it for the general audience worldwide. That means that MOST of the people who are the target audience have never heard of ME, have no clue what it is about, have no idea about the backstory, nothing (something like 99%). Putting out a fill-in movie or some side-movie that is "in" with the gamers but a total mystery to the vast majority of potential viewers would be crazy. The GAME, however, has a beginning, middle, and end. It has an arc. It coheres.

Of your two suggested non-game movies, the Anderson one is more likely than the first contact war, which is purely an "insider" theme. The game players are into that, the players understand it, the players don't need any context to make sense of it but the huge world of viewers don't have all that and a first contact war would just be this disconnected thing hanging out there that makes no sense and with no connection to anything. Note this as well: the first contact war from ME is yet another near direct idea theft from Babylon 5 which had a "First Contact War" between the humans and the minbari...let's not copy that into the theaters - bad form).



Before discussing your points I would like to say that I am a supporter of the idea for a movie to be based on the First Contact War and as such I disagree with some of your points, but I do not intend to disrespect your opinions.

Regarding your first point about how Shepard would be portrayed in a movie, I am in agreement primarily because to me how Shepard is portrayed is a non-issue.  I have at least six Shepard's that are all unique, which is why the portrayal of Shepard is irrelevant to me.  Yes, many people will move onto a new game, but I understand why some people be opposed to a portrayal of Shepard that differs from their own.  I would speculate that a movie portrayal of Shepard would be Paragade and only renegade to enemies.

For your second point about the audience of a ME movie, I am partly in a agreement.  While I agree that the mainstream audience would not likely be fans of the ME series, I disagree with your insinuation the basing the movie after the game because it "coheres."  First, I do not think a side-movie or fill-in movie would completely confuse the mainstream audience.  Of course that depends on what the fill-in movie would be about.  Obviously if it was about the Krogan Rebellions or the Morning War, which would not happen anyway due to no humans present in those conflicts, then yes, the mainstream audience would likely be confused.  I think the only two plotlines that could pull it off would be Anderson's story or the First Contact War.  However, the viability of a ME movie based on the game would depend on how the background information (codex) is explained to viewers unfamiliar with the series.  As for the game having coherence, fill-in or side-movies could easily have a beginning, middle, and end.  All they would have to do is come up with a good storyline, which would be an adventure in and of itself.

Of your points, I most disagree with your statements regarding the First Contact War.  First, I do not think the First Contact War would confuse the mainstream audience mainly because the background information can be presented more gradually.  For instance, the only things that would need to be explained in the beginning of the movie would be the Prothean ruins on Mars, the Charon relay, and how technology changed after those discoveries.  That could easily be told in an introduction to the movie, perhaps similar to the opening sequence of the Fellowship of the Ring movie.  As for what connection the First Contact War has to the rest of the series, my viewpoint is that it can serve as a stepping stone.  My hypothetical scenario would be a squad of marines being the main characters who could go through the First Contact War, the batarian conflicts in the Skyllian Verge, and the Terminus Systems.  If such a movie trilogy existed, a good portion of the ME universe could be explored.  As for the "First Contact" scenario already in use, it is a delicate situation, but not an impossible one.  Now I do not know anything about Babylon 5, but I would think that if the scenario is carefully explored then it will not seem as a rip-off.  That would be akin to saying that origin stories are rip-offs of each other.  I mean Batman Begin and Iron Man both serve as origin stories, but they do not feel like rip-offs of each other.

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Iron Man and Batman Begins, while origin stories, have the advantage of having a plot that actually goes somewhere. Unlike the First Contact War, which this forum has already established actually serves little purpose as it was written off as little more than a political misadventure.

I don't want to sound like I'm trash-talking your opinion but I firmly believe that if the First Contact War is mentioned at all (I don't believe it needs to be, and it will not be the main focus of a Mass Effect film as it is not a story of great enough bearing) it will be in a short introductory voice-over at the beginning of the film that could easily set up the back-story in a few minutes.

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dreaming_of_zion wrote...

Iron Man and Batman Begins, while origin stories, have the advantage of having a plot that actually goes somewhere. Unlike the First Contact War, which this forum has already established actually serves little purpose as it was written off as little more than a political misadventure.
I don't want to sound like I'm trash-talking your opinion but I firmly believe that if the First Contact War is mentioned at all (I don't believe it needs to be, and it will not be the main focus of a Mass Effect film as it is not a story of great enough bearing) it will be in a short introductory voice-over at the beginning of the film that could easily set up the back-story in a few minutes.


Exactly this.

The First Contact War ends with everyone having egg on their face and both sides having to profusely apologize for acting like squabbling children.  It lasts less than a month and fewer than 2000 sentients die in total.  

It was less a war than it was a policing action gone horribly wrong.  Humanity calls it the First Contact War because of its significance.  The Turians and the galaxy at large just consider it the "Incident at Relay 314".  

The result was humanity ended up looking ignorant and aggressive and the Turians looked uncompassionate and tactless.  Nobody won.  Everybody lost.  

Is that how you end a movie?  With a big "haha, you just watched the space opera equivalent of a routine traffic stop that turned into a brawl"?  Nobody would like that ending and in order to make it more enjoyable, you'd need to change the established canon EVEN MORE than you would have to in order to make an ME 1 based movie.  

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Ditto. That would really stink.

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Omega-202 wrote...

dreaming_of_zion wrote...

Iron Man and Batman Begins, while origin stories, have the advantage of having a plot that actually goes somewhere. Unlike the First Contact War, which this forum has already established actually serves little purpose as it was written off as little more than a political misadventure.
I don't want to sound like I'm trash-talking your opinion but I firmly believe that if the First Contact War is mentioned at all (I don't believe it needs to be, and it will not be the main focus of a Mass Effect film as it is not a story of great enough bearing) it will be in a short introductory voice-over at the beginning of the film that could easily set up the back-story in a few minutes.


Exactly this.

The First Contact War ends with everyone having egg on their face and both sides having to profusely apologize for acting like squabbling children.  It lasts less than a month and fewer than 2000 sentients die in total.  

It was less a war than it was a policing action gone horribly wrong.  Humanity calls it the First Contact War because of its significance.  The Turians and the galaxy at large just consider it the "Incident at Relay 314".  

The result was humanity ended up looking ignorant and aggressive and the Turians looked uncompassionate and tactless.  Nobody won.  Everybody lost.  

Is that how you end a movie?  With a big "haha, you just watched the space opera equivalent of a routine traffic stop that turned into a brawl"?  Nobody would like that ending and in order to make it more enjoyable, you'd need to change the established canon EVEN MORE than you would have to in order to make an ME 1 based movie.  


I haven't gotten into the backstory details all that much so I don't know the nitty gritty details of the first contact war in ME. Can someone enlighten me as to the HOW it happened? What started the war (I'm interested in seeing how much of a copy it is of Bablylon 5's official "First Contact War". Is it mostly a flatout duplicate or just a HEAVY bit of "borrowing"?).

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dreaming_of_zion wrote...

Iron Man and Batman Begins, while origin stories, have the advantage of having a plot that actually goes somewhere. Unlike the First Contact War, which this forum has already established actually serves little purpose as it was written off as little more than a political misadventure.

I don't want to sound like I'm trash-talking your opinion but I firmly believe that if the First Contact War is mentioned at all (I don't believe it needs to be, and it will not be the main focus of a Mass Effect film as it is not a story of great enough bearing) it will be in a short introductory voice-over at the beginning of the film that could easily set up the back-story in a few minutes.


Iron Man and Batman (ALL of the movies) have the advantage of a huge comic book history. Virtually everyone (in the target audience) already knows about them or has heard of them. Not so with anythng in ME. There is context and history going into the movies with Iron Man, etc, (any comic book to movie) that is lacking for ME.

I stand by my statements that the only way you ever see anything like backstory or side story for ME is AFTER the movie franchise is setup with actual ME1 (at least) success. The audience is then introduced via a self-contained story with an interesting background.

Star Wars didn't start with Episode I, it started downstream with Episode IV (or whatever it was). Only after it proved successful and had a following did backstory/history come into it.

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Getorex wrote...

I haven't gotten into the backstory details all that much so I don't know the nitty gritty details of the first contact war in ME. Can someone enlighten me as to the HOW it happened? What started the war (I'm interested in seeing how much of a copy it is of Bablylon 5's official "First Contact War". Is it mostly a flatout duplicate or just a HEAVY bit of "borrowing"?).


http://masseffect.wi...rst_Contact_War

Essentially, humans tried to activate the 314 Relay.  The a turian patrol witnessed this and immediately attacked as per Council protocol which forbids the activation of dormant relays, lest there be a repeat of the Rachni Invasion.  

Humanity was ignorant to the rules and didn't know the possible consequences.  The turians didn't bother to warn or scold the scout fleet for what they were doing, they simply demolished them.  

The Alliance sent a retaliatory fleet to wipe out the Turian policing fleet.

The Turian Hierarchy sent a retaliatory-retaliatory fleet to capture Shanxi.

The Alliance sent a retaliatory-retaliatory-retaliatory fleet to retake Shanxi.

The Hierarchy was gearing up to send a full invasion fleet to wipe out humanity before the Asari and Salarians realized what was going on and made them back down.  

In the end, both the Alliance and the Hierarchy look like idiots.  The rest of the galactic community call it the "Incident at Relay 314" but because humans in ME are portrayed as spoiled, headstrong brats, they call it "the First Contact War" to make it seem important. 

To the rest of the galactic community, the entire incident was a bad joke and everyone was laughing at the Alliance.  That's what some fans of the series don't seem to realize.  There was no epic story.  There were no heroes.  There was no victory or defeat.  

Its like the futuristic version of the Spanish-American War.  It was over in a heart beat and everyone kinda looked bad.  

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@Getorex. Exactly my point.

There may be media that focusses on the First Contact War, or the Krogan Rebellion in the future. But this will be well after the release of the Mass Effect film/s that will almost certainly (I think) be inspired by the plot of the games. If, and it's a very big IF, they do ever do a television series - which will depend entirely on the success of the film franchise - then this may well be the time and the place to delve into the history and the codex.

The interesting question for us all to chew over now is exactly how they show the game's plot on screen.

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Omega-202 wrote...

dreaming_of_zion wrote...

Iron Man and Batman Begins, while origin stories, have the advantage of having a plot that actually goes somewhere. Unlike the First Contact War, which this forum has already established actually serves little purpose as it was written off as little more than a political misadventure.
I don't want to sound like I'm trash-talking your opinion but I firmly believe that if the First Contact War is mentioned at all (I don't believe it needs to be, and it will not be the main focus of a Mass Effect film as it is not a story of great enough bearing) it will be in a short introductory voice-over at the beginning of the film that could easily set up the back-story in a few minutes.


Exactly this.

The First Contact War ends with everyone having egg on their face and both sides having to profusely apologize for acting like squabbling children.  It lasts less than a month and fewer than 2000 sentients die in total.  

It was less a war than it was a policing action gone horribly wrong.  Humanity calls it the First Contact War because of its significance.  The Turians and the galaxy at large just consider it the "Incident at Relay 314".  

The result was humanity ended up looking ignorant and aggressive and the Turians looked uncompassionate and tactless.  Nobody won.  Everybody lost.  

Is that how you end a movie?  With a big "haha, you just watched the space opera equivalent of a routine traffic stop that turned into a brawl"?  Nobody would like that ending and in order to make it more enjoyable, you'd need to change the established canon EVEN MORE than you would have to in order to make an ME 1 based movie.  



Thanks for the flesh out of the "war". It is not quite like the Babylon 5 First Contact War except in how it starts, in rough form, apparently: Babylon 5's first contact war begins with Minbari warships/cruisers approaching human ships for the first time. They are appraoching peacefully, and as is their custom, this means opening up armor doors and exposing their weapons in a sort of salute. A human gunner on a human ship panics and fires at the "hostile" ships. A big fight starts with the humans apparently attacking and murdering a peaceful contact mission without provocation. War ensues with the humans getting their clocks cleaned over several years, concluding with the Minbari directly approaching earth for the coupe de gras...only for them to unaccountably end hostilities and virtually surrending mysteriously (only explained later in the series concerning the discovery on their part of a deep, important connection between humans and Minbari of which the humans are totally ignorant of). The general public thinks the war ended because of the bravery and might of the human fleet (the Battle of the Line where the last remaining human battleships and cruisers are in formation to last-ditch stop the Minbari fleet before it reaches earth) while those who were there and fighting knew they were totally f*cked and SHOULD have lost but for some reason were given a second chance.

The war wasn't a little squabble or traffic accident gone wrong, but a peaceful encounter that goes horribly wrong with a HUGE war as the result. Not much of a comparison except the humans f*cked up big time and it ended only because the Minbari ended before they wiped humanity's ass with their own faces.

The Minbari are very much like Asari in ME except they have male and female members.

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The two seem to be very different incidences. The Babylon 5 war went on long enough to support a story. The ME "war" went on a few weeks and was less of a miscommunication than it was two hot headed idiots trying to play tough guy.

A lot of people proposing "First Contact War" movies don't seem to understand that IT WASN'T EVEN A WAR. Its these same people who go on about how they're "true fans of the series". If they were, they'd realize that the whole thing was a joke wrapped in an embarrassment.

Its like how the Gallipoli Campaign during WW I would objectively be considered a huge failure and be drowned below other battles if it weren't for the fact that it was the first major conflict that Australian and New Zealand forces ever fought in. It's considered something really important to the Aussies, but in the grand scheme of the war, it wasn't seen as a truly remarkable battle.

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The only (and in my opinion) best way to introduce the ME universe without going to the ME1 game (not happening, the rights for the movie ARE ME1) would be to depict the humans finding the Prothean ruins on Mars and finding the first gate, etc. This gets humans to the stars and briefly introduces the fact that there are other advanced races out there.



This would only really work if they were then intending to go on from there and do a series, including up to and through ME1, etc, later. I mean, the heart of the ME series is KEY - the Reapers. And some people want to blow that off and have movies about little sh*t. If they did it this way and it didn't do as well as they hoped or planned, then no follow-on movies would occur and it would sit there like a turd in a toilet.

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You couldn't do a Prothean ruins based movie.

There's no conflict. There's no aliens. There's no biotics. There's no interstellar travel. There's nothing.

If they did that for part of the opening of the ME 1 movie, fine. But not as its own movie.

What I'm seeing is some sort of "during the opening credits" montage that shows glimpses of how humanity got to where it is including important events in Shepard's life (Mindoir, Elysium, Akuze, Torfan). Sort of like how the "Watchmen" film opened with a montage of scenes giving a back drop to the story.

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Omega-202 wrote...

You couldn't do a Prothean ruins based movie.
There's no conflict. There's no aliens. There's no biotics. There's no interstellar travel. There's nothing.
If they did that for part of the opening of the ME 1 movie, fine. But not as its own movie.
What I'm seeing is some sort of "during the opening credits" montage that shows glimpses of how humanity got to where it is including important events in Shepard's life (Mindoir, Elysium, Akuze, Torfan). Sort of like how the "Watchmen" film opened with a montage of scenes giving a back drop to the story.


This could work.. I actualy like that idea.

By the way, has there been any word on the movie at all since it was annouced? On anything? I just want a sign that its even in production.

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I watched the new Star Trek last night, I liked it for the most part. (I'm not familiar with the original series)

A few things in the film reminded me of ME.(ship looks kinda like Sovereign)

J.J.Abrams would be an interesting pick.

I still doubt the movie will be more than a B-rate movie.(reason being money/writers)

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MassEffect762 wrote...

I watched the new Star Trek last night, I liked it for the most part. (I'm not familiar with the original series)

A few things in the film reminded me of ME.(ship looks kinda like Sovereign)

J.J.Abrams would be an interesting pick.

I still doubt the movie will be more than a B-rate movie.(reason being money/writers)


One can hope that BW writers being involved would not like it to go that way but..."Doom" WAS produced by a major studio (Universal) and it royally sucked so there's no guarantee.

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MassEffect762 wrote...

I watched the new Star Trek last night, I liked it for the most part. (I'm not familiar with the original series)

A few things in the film reminded me of ME.(ship looks kinda like Sovereign)

J.J.Abrams would be an interesting pick.

I still doubt the movie will be more than a B-rate movie.(reason being money/writers)


If Avi Arad has taken interest, its not going to be a B-movie.  

He's the guy who's largely responsible for the recent success of superhero/comic book movies.  If it wasn't for the fact that he stood behind the projects as producer and worked so closely with the directors and IP owners, half of the past decade's blockbusters wouldn't have existed.  

They're going to give it an honest shot if they think its viable.  If not, they'll just drop the project.  They're not about to go and make a half assed project.  Legendary would sooner eat the cost they paid out to EA than go forward with a horrible movie in a new genre.  Sure, they screwed up Jonah Hex and 10,000 BC, but I see those as flukes.  

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thats what they said to the halo movie! at least it be a a branch off the ma2 trilogy

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Obviously I can't wait. <3

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Omega-202 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

I watched the new Star Trek last night, I liked it for the most part. (I'm not familiar with the original series)

A few things in the film reminded me of ME.(ship looks kinda like Sovereign)

J.J.Abrams would be an interesting pick.

I still doubt the movie will be more than a B-rate movie.(reason being money/writers)


If Avi Arad has taken interest, its not going to be a B-movie.  

He's the guy who's largely responsible for the recent success of superhero/comic book movies.  If it wasn't for the fact that he stood behind the projects as producer and worked so closely with the directors and IP owners, half of the past decade's blockbusters wouldn't have existed.  

They're going to give it an honest shot if they think its viable.  If not, they'll just drop the project.  They're not about to go and make a half assed project.  Legendary would sooner eat the cost they paid out to EA than go forward with a horrible movie in a new genre.  Sure, they screwed up Jonah Hex and 10,000 BC, but I see those as flukes.  


YUCK, I've always thought of Avi Arad's stuff as b-movies - even though the special effects and action are all A quality stuff... Not that that's his fault exactly, but there's definitely a correlation!  Anyway, it really depends on who they get to do the screenplay, who to direct, etc., etc....

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AwesomeName wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

MassEffect762 wrote...

I watched the new Star Trek last night, I liked it for the most part. (I'm not familiar with the original series)

A few things in the film reminded me of ME.(ship looks kinda like Sovereign)

J.J.Abrams would be an interesting pick.

I still doubt the movie will be more than a B-rate movie.(reason being money/writers)


If Avi Arad has taken interest, its not going to be a B-movie.  

He's the guy who's largely responsible for the recent success of superhero/comic book movies.  If it wasn't for the fact that he stood behind the projects as producer and worked so closely with the directors and IP owners, half of the past decade's blockbusters wouldn't have existed.  

They're going to give it an honest shot if they think its viable.  If not, they'll just drop the project.  They're not about to go and make a half assed project.  Legendary would sooner eat the cost they paid out to EA than go forward with a horrible movie in a new genre.  Sure, they screwed up Jonah Hex and 10,000 BC, but I see those as flukes.  


YUCK, I've always thought of Avi Arad's stuff as b-movies - even though the special effects and action are all A quality stuff... Not that that's his fault exactly, but there's definitely a correlation!  Anyway, it really depends on who they get to do the screenplay, who to direct, etc., etc....


Indeed. I'd prefer the Batman Forever guy. Avi Arad = Incredible Hulk (BLEH!), Ghost Rider (bleh), Fantastic Four (bleh), X-men Origins (eeeeh - hand held level with ground, rocking on long axis back and forth), Bratz: The Movie (WTF?!! BLEH!)... Crap, my expectations are crashing. He's a f*cking moron who only does b-movie-esque superhero/comic book movies. BLEH! My stomach muscles are beginning to ache from the rolling vomiting and interspersed dry heaves. Hell, maybe Avi should consider an orthogonal career change. Perhaps his "skills" would be better used making pornos as he is at least better than those doing them now (or ever). He'd be a king among that lot.

But wait! Maybe I'm wrong! His latest about-to-be-released work is..."Robosapien: Rebooted" Synopsis: A robot boy and a human boy team up to save their respective parents, who are being held captive by the organization that funded the robot's creator.

Damn! THAT portends greatness concerning the ME movie! Woohoo!

Maybe I WILL be waiting for the ME movie to hit satellite pay-per-view...and then only after the other better movies are watched. Afterall, that's how I got around to watching a couple (is there more?) Resident Evil movies, and Doom. Sh*t, f*ck, and sonofab*tch.

Modifié par Getorex, 02 novembre 2010 - 06:13 .


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Post mortem: Having actually looked over Ari Arad's work history, I hereby take back ALL my predictions on the movie except one item: if a fem Shep is used, Liara will NOT be the LI. Sorry, even Ari wont do bull ****** military lesbian as a lead.



I think I can predict something more generic: the movie will be a cross between the Incredible Hulk and X-Men Beginnings: Wolverine. A fem Shep would sport spandex body suits or black leather (or mid-driffs or plunging necklines) and a male Shep would be something like a mix between Wolverine and the Hulk.



Ya know what? The truth shall set you free folks. If you actually accept that the movie is going to be crappy then it actually will free you. You realize that you just like the game and that the movie wont change that fact. Also, you do NOT have to see it so even if, in the VERY off chance, you are actually still playing the (by then) aging game when the movie comes out, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH IT! Your Shep and your choices remain safe. You can hold off watching it until a couple years have passed and the movie is the only thing on TV one evening, on FX or SyFy channel. Or maybe you can snag the DVD from a local Redbox and watch it in the safety of time passage where the game of ME is just a fading fond memory. No harm, no foul.

Modifié par Getorex, 02 novembre 2010 - 06:45 .


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AwesomeName wrote...

YUCK, I've always thought of Avi Arad's stuff as b-movies - even though the special effects and action are all A quality stuff... Not that that's his fault exactly, but there's definitely a correlation!  Anyway, it really depends on who they get to do the screenplay, who to direct, etc., etc....


Spiderman 2 was a B-movie?  The first 2 XMen?  Ironman?  

He's got some big hits and some big misses, but its mostly due to who they get to direct and write as you said.  If they get some great staff to make the movie it can be on par with some of his best films.  If not, then you get Elektra.