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[Getorex]

Omega-202 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

YUCK, I've always thought of Avi Arad's stuff as b-movies - even though the special effects and action are all A quality stuff... Not that that's his fault exactly, but there's definitely a correlation!  Anyway, it really depends on who they get to do the screenplay, who to direct, etc., etc....

Spiderman 2 was a B-movie?  The first 2 XMen?  Ironman?  

He's got some big hits and some big misses, but its mostly due to who they get to direct and write as you said.  If they get some great staff to make the movie it can be on par with some of his best films.  If not, then you get Elektra.  

Depends on whether or not you honestly think Ironman and X-Men are good models to use for making ME.

Also...from the list of his movies, it appears to be a roll of the dice, ala, a crap shoot whether or not the movie is sh*tty (Hulk, et al) or OK (Ironman). Again, COMIC BOOKS -> movies. I was not aware that ME was suppose to be nothing but a comic book superhero story. Dime a dozen.

[Getorex]

AwesomeName wrote...

In my subjective opinion all of the marvel films are b-movies. Very expensive ones. Some of them are a lot of fun though, so it's not necessarily a bad thing. It's a matter of taste really - e.g. my favourite film is the Fountain, which made hardly any money compared to a blockbuster hit like Twilight (probably).



I think what Getorex is saying is true though, that if they make a Shep film, we should just accept it as another version of Shep, not a canonical one - we have the game, doesn't matter that much if the movie sucks *shrugs*.

Pretty much. Originally I was hoping for something that would end up in my DVD collection. A keeper. Ironman ain't one, X-Men ain't one. Seriously...as fun as these might have been, do you REALLY sit down and watch and re-watch them again and again? I've watched "Forbidden Planet" a number of times. I've watched Bladerunner multiple times. Ironman? Once is plenty. X-Men? Once was enough. The rest aren't even worth mentioning. I am now pretty confident (given Ari's body of work) that ME ain't gonna be one either. The odds are what they are. Ah well...something else will be a keeper.

[labdG]

I'm worried. The Mass Effect games have a great story and universe so the movie can be great to. On the other hand, it can be total disaster becouse we all knoe that game movies doesn't usualy end up well and I think that Mass Effect is hard to make a movie for since it kind of alredy is but with choices.

[Getorex]

EDIT: Ooops, wrong thread.

Modifié par Getorex, 02 novembre 2010 - 09:30 .

[Getorex]

labdG wrote...

I'm worried. The Mass Effect games have a great story and universe so the movie can be great to. On the other hand, it can be total disaster becouse we all knoe that game movies doesn't usualy end up well and I think that Mass Effect is hard to make a movie for since it kind of alredy is but with choices.

But the choices are actually of no real importance. We all played the exact same game, just with different colored shirts on (in effect). Not a single choice you've made in ME1 or ME2 actually have any REAL effect on the game story arc, no effect on the outcome. It's all just dressing that makes the salad taste better. Thus, game choices really have no import wrt the movie.

Choices shmoices.

Modifié par Getorex, 02 novembre 2010 - 10:02 .

[jetwolfprime]

There seems to be a pattern emerging, a formula for what you might be able to expect from the ME film at this point.

Consider the Sci-fi and Action genres, if some of, or all of your favorite films in these genres were made in the last 5-10 years, expect to be happy. If your a fan of classic Sci-fi and contemporary classic Sci-fi, like myself, the best you can hope for is that they don't fail too terribly. This is of course due to the people producing and backing this film. To hope that at this point Avi Arad or any of the game producers from BioWare will be making a ME film on the level of Blade Runner, Alien, or, to a lesser extent The Matrix, would just be wishful thinking.

As far as Shepard in or out, the time period and who the cast will be, it's all moot. The only thing to be concerened about is will the film be decent enough to sit through if your not a fan of the visionless garbage that Hollywood has been pumping out lately. The game is already good, a crap movie won't change that, but it will be a let down to fans of ME that want to see the story stay alive and well in any medium.

Modifié par jetwolfprime, 03 novembre 2010 - 03:36 .

[Getorex]

jetwolfprime wrote...

There seems to be a pattern emerging, a formula for what you might be able to expect from the MA film at this point.



Consider the Sci-fi and Action genres, if some of, or all of your favorite films in these genres were made in the last 5-10 years, expect to be happy. If your a fan of classic Sci-fi and contemporary classic Sci-fi, like myself, the best you can hope for is that they don't fail too terribly. This is of course due to the people producing and backing this film. To hope that at this point Avi Arad or any of the game producers from BioWare will be making a MA film on the level of Blade Runner, Alien, or, to a lesser extent The Matrix, would just be wishful thinking.



As far as Shepard in or out, the time period and who the cast will be, it's all moot. The only thing to be concerened about is will the film be decent enough to sit through if your not a fan of the visionless garbage that Hollywood has been pumping out lately. The game is already good, a crap movie won't change that, but it will be let down to fans of MA that want to see the story stay alive and well in any medium.

Exactly

[jetwolfprime]

pf17456 wrote...

Mass Effect has a 'mature' rating. Think the movie will be the same or will they target the larger PG audience and if so what will be lost in translation ?

Well ME 2 saw the death of the asb (alien side boob) and if the film is going to be rated pg-13 (as it will never be pg) expect less graphic violence than the video game, fully clothed Asari with some possible cleavage for matrons. Jack will have been made mute at some point during the biotic experiments done on her (if she's even in the film/films) and krogans will have large dewy eyes. a happy go-lucky demeanor and fur (resembling bipedal luck dragons).
 
Honestly PG-13 often does nothing more to films than destory content in favor of the dollars that busy body parents will spend at the box office.

Modifié par jetwolfprime, 03 novembre 2010 - 06:38 .

[Getorex]

jetwolfprime wrote...

pf17456 wrote...

Mass Effect has a 'mature' rating. Think the movie will be the same or will they target the larger PG audience and if so what will be lost in translation ?

Well ME 2 saw the death of the asb (alien side boob) and if the film is going to be rated pg-13 (as it will never be pg) expect less graphic violence than the video game, fully clothed Asari with some possible cleavage for matrons. Jack will have been made mute at some point during the biotic experiments done on her (if she's even in the film/films) and krogans will have large dewy eyes. a happy go-lucky demeanor and fur (resembling bipedal luck dragons).
 
Honestly PG-13 often does nothing more to films than destory content in favor of the dollars that busy body parents will spend at the box office.

Krogans as large Ewoks!

But MUST bring back the side boob! More side boob! Though you got full-on boob with Jack. That thing she wore by default was just a set of pasties with leather straps attached. The "asb" as you say was replaced by gigundus middle melons with Samara. Miranda's bra was less revealing than Samara's work clothes (Non sequitor question: Why did Miranda choose the engine room instead of her room or simply the Commander's room?! Does ANYONE here prefer, say, an unfinished basement for humping vs a nice, cozy, comfy bed or sofa? Rolling around on a nice metal plated floor over plush carpet and rugs? And, you know, you just get right into business! There was absolutely no kisses exchanged prior, no hugging, nothing, just (in the engine room) "Hey." "Hey yourself". "Let's get naked!" "Mm-kay". Done. Then it's back to "I've been busy, but when I have some time later I'll be stopping by" (the engine room again?) "IF you're still interested". "Err...Miranda, didn't we have this conversation before? Do we have to do this every time prior to tossing sheets? Can't we just, you know, take about 5 steps behind you and get into your bed?")

Modifié par Getorex, 03 novembre 2010 - 02:03 .

[AngryGamer]

If they take ideas from their past movies, I hope they go more for "dark knight" and less of "watchmen". That would set up the franchise better.

[IndigoWolfe]

I dunno, I might like to see Christopher Nolan's Mass Effect...

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 04 novembre 2010 - 04:44 .

[Zenyxia]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

I dunno, I might like to see Christopher Nolan's Mass Effect...

:lol:

[longlun]

labdG wrote...

I'm worried. The Mass Effect games have a great story and universe so the movie can be great to. On the other hand, it can be total disaster becouse we all knoe that game movies doesn't usualy end up well and I think that Mass Effect is hard to make a movie for since it kind of alredy is but with choices.

Mortal Kombat (THE FIRST ONE) is still among my favourite movies of all time, Prince of Persia is another good movie (although they had a huge budget to make it good) and the Resident Evil series aren't too bad.  It's safe to say that it is entirely possible to make a good movie out of a good video game.

For the bad ones blame Uwe Boll, who makes all his movies with cheesy bullet time scenes, tacky and uninspiring dialogue, and random sex scenes to keep people from watching something else.  Not to mention all the other movie companies that try to earn easy money just by using the name alone (think Street Fighter, aside from the characters and the name, the storyline was ridiculous and almost had nothing to do with the games). 

For Mass Effect, there's a lot of open directions that they can go.  I'd be down whether Shepard is Paragon or Renegade.  And don't forget, Mass Effect universe is huge, so it doesn't even have to involve Shepard.  In fact I'd rather it not, since Shepard is OUR character and what we make him/her to be.  There's tons of possibilies, many of which I'm sure have been mentioned before (First Contact War, Krogan Rebellions, Aria's story, Jon Grissom Academy (I still need to read the book , etc...), or even TIM's canon backstory played by Emilio Estevez and the formation of Cerberus, which I'd be totally down with.) Oh, and blame Uwe Boll for bad video game movies.

Uwe Boll is terrible.

Modifié par longlun, 04 novembre 2010 - 08:53 .

[longlun]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

I dunno, I might like to see Christopher Nolan's Mass Effect...

You sir, are a hero.

[XXVI]

Omega-202 wrote...

A lot of people proposing "First Contact War" movies don't seem to understand that IT WASN'T EVEN A WAR. Its these same people who go on about how they're "true fans of the series". If they were, they'd realize that the whole thing was a joke wrapped in an embarrassment.
 

Alright, alright, so it isn't a large scale war. So what? Would anyone here argue that Black Hawk Down was a bad war movie just because it was about a brief, asymmetrical conflict? Hell no. Ridley Scott took the ball and ran with it. It was a great movie not only because it satisfied audiences with a believable perspective, good story, and entertaining combat scenes, but because it worked hard to convey the feeling of "what it's like".

The First Contact War is a good topic to introduce people to the mythos. Why not center the story around a scientist, journalist, military officer, *insert your cliche here* who opposes military expansion and brash opening of relays? You could still have plenty of war scenes but allow far more natural exposition than if you follow some random boots-on-the-ground character. Plus it would satisfy the Hollywood producers' compulsion to insert the "military machine bad, indie group of unsung heroes good" message.

Here's one way I think it might work well:

Act 1: Humanity is exploring and colonizing space with new techonology but hasn't met any other species yet (an easy pill to swallow for anyone who's ever seen a sci-fi movie). Introduce "our hero" who's trying to, I dunno, discourage military expansion, or discover alien life or something. There's a thousand possiblities.

Act 2: Relay incident, space battle. Introduce "scary aliens", e.g. Turian patrol fleet.

Act 3: Hero tries to discourage military response, maybe on Arcturus Station (good introduction of Alliance military headquarters), to no avail. Alliance fights back, Turians take Shanxi. Hero comes in contact with peaceful Turians or Council investigating committee or something like that. Realizes that humanity is totally effing screwed if they keep fighting the Turians, but can't stop the Alliance response.

Act 4: Alliance prepares revanchist fleet to retake Shanxi. Plenty of military bravado. Big space battle, ground conflict, maybe the hero is mixed up in all of it. If he's not serving military, he should at least be retired so he or she can pick up a gun or get into a cockpit and thow their weight around a bit. In the end plenty of high-fives to go around, but the hero knows it's not over.

Act 5: Hero tries last ditch effort to stop conflict while Turians prepare to totally obliterate Alliance fleet. Council steps in, and maybe an Asari/Salarian fleet jumps in just to show some muscle for a cool scene. Epilogue with Human diplomats and the Hero being briefed at the Presidium or something, new dawn for humanity, etc. etc.

Whatever. All I'm trying to say is that it's got plenty of potential to serve as an intoduction of new fans to the mythos. There's no need to have 15 minutes of "So these guys are good, these guys are bad, biotics aren't actually magic, Krogan have this many testicles, etc." at the beginning, which would be necessary for anything taking place during or after ME1. Awkward exposition will kill this movie, and no explanation at all would leave non-fans totally confused, so why not choose a plot that introduces everything methodically from a starting point anyone could understand? Besides, this way the hero could easily be a guy or a girl, or even a group of characters sympathetic to a wide audience.

Yut.

[B34TINGU1]

Omega-202 wrote...

The two seem to be very different incidences. The Babylon 5 war went on long enough to support a story. The ME "war" went on a few weeks and was less of a miscommunication than it was two hot headed idiots trying to play tough guy.
A lot of people proposing "First Contact War" movies don't seem to understand that IT WASN'T EVEN A WAR. Its these same people who go on about how they're "true fans of the series". If they were, they'd realize that the whole thing was a joke wrapped in an embarrassment.
Its like how the Gallipoli Campaign during WW I would objectively be considered a huge failure and be drowned below other battles if it weren't for the fact that it was the first major conflict that Australian and New Zealand forces ever fought in. It's considered something really important to the Aussies, but in the grand scheme of the war, it wasn't seen as a truly remarkable battle.

Finally someone in this topic with some sense.

[Master_Anthony]

XXVI wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

A lot of people proposing "First Contact War" movies don't seem to understand that IT WASN'T EVEN A WAR. Its these same people who go on about how they're "true fans of the series". If they were, they'd realize that the whole thing was a joke wrapped in an embarrassment.
 

Alright, alright, so it isn't a large scale war. So what? Would anyone here argue that Black Hawk Down was a bad war movie just because it was about a brief, asymmetrical conflict? Hell no. Ridley Scott took the ball and ran with it. It was a great movie not only because it satisfied audiences with a believable perspective, good story, and entertaining combat scenes, but because it worked hard to convey the feeling of "what it's like".

The First Contact War is a good topic to introduce people to the mythos. Why not center the story around a scientist, journalist, military officer, *insert your cliche here* who opposes military expansion and brash opening of relays? You could still have plenty of war scenes but allow far more natural exposition than if you follow some random boots-on-the-ground character. Plus it would satisfy the Hollywood producers' compulsion to insert the "military machine bad, indie group of unsung heroes good" message.

Here's one way I think it might work well:

Act 1: Humanity is exploring and colonizing space with new techonology but hasn't met any other species yet (an easy pill to swallow for anyone who's ever seen a sci-fi movie). Introduce "our hero" who's trying to, I dunno, discourage military expansion, or discover alien life or something. There's a thousand possiblities.

Act 2: Relay incident, space battle. Introduce "scary aliens", e.g. Turian patrol fleet.

Act 3: Hero tries to discourage military response, maybe on Arcturus Station (good introduction of Alliance military headquarters), to no avail. Alliance fights back, Turians take Shanxi. Hero comes in contact with peaceful Turians or Council investigating committee or something like that. Realizes that humanity is totally effing screwed if they keep fighting the Turians, but can't stop the Alliance response.

Act 4: Alliance prepares revanchist fleet to retake Shanxi. Plenty of military bravado. Big space battle, ground conflict, maybe the hero is mixed up in all of it. If he's not serving military, he should at least be retired so he or she can pick up a gun or get into a cockpit and thow their weight around a bit. In the end plenty of high-fives to go around, but the hero knows it's not over.

Act 5: Hero tries last ditch effort to stop conflict while Turians prepare to totally obliterate Alliance fleet. Council steps in, and maybe an Asari/Salarian fleet jumps in just to show some muscle for a cool scene. Epilogue with Human diplomats and the Hero being briefed at the Presidium or something, new dawn for humanity, etc. etc.

Whatever. All I'm trying to say is that it's got plenty of potential to serve as an intoduction of new fans to the mythos. There's no need to have 15 minutes of "So these guys are good, these guys are bad, biotics aren't actually magic, Krogan have this many testicles, etc." at the beginning, which would be necessary for anything taking place during or after ME1. Awkward exposition will kill this movie, and no explanation at all would leave non-fans totally confused, so why not choose a plot that introduces everything methodically from a starting point anyone could understand? Besides, this way the hero could easily be a guy or a girl, or even a group of characters sympathetic to a wide audience.

Yut.

The problem with this idea was never that is was short, but rather that both sides come out looking like ignorant douchebags in the end. I may be wrong, this is just my opinion.

[Omega-202]

Master_Anthony wrote...

The problem with this idea was never that is was short, but rather that both sides come out looking like ignorant douchebags in the end. I may be wrong, this is just my opinion.

Exactly this.  

The outline that was proposed is all great and fine, but in the end you'd either need to change the ending or you'd need to ignore the entire incident for future movies.

When the Council stops the Turians, everyone comes out with egg on their face.  Humanity thought they were fighting against an unstoppable existential threat.  They weren't.  The Council was never going to let the Turians wipe out humanity.  

It would be like ending the Matrix with someone stepping in and grabbing Agent Smith by the collar and saying "bad boy, go to your room".  The big bad guy in the film ends up being just a small cog in such a larger machine that it makes the entire movie seem insignificant.  

The reporter/hero proposed was no more than an insect scrambling around doing nothing to actually change an outcome that was inevitable.  That's the difference between the First Contact War and Shepard's story.  Shepard isn't an insect running around.  He's actually fighting for the continued existence of everyone in the galaxy.  The hero in the FCW just thinks that he is, but in the end it reveals that he did nothing of worth.  That's not how you end a movie if you hope to make sequels.  

[ghost135]

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It would be like ending the Matrix with someone stepping in and grabbing Agent Smith by the collar and saying "bad boy, go to your room".  The big bad guy in the film ends up being just a small cog in such a larger machine that it makes the entire movie seem insignificant.  

The reporter/hero proposed was no more than an insect scrambling around doing nothing to actually change an outcome that was inevitable.  That's the difference between the First Contact War and Shepard's story.  Shepard isn't an insect running around.  He's actually fighting for the continued existence of everyone in the galaxy.  The hero in the FCW just thinks that he is, but in the end it reveals that he did nothing of worth.  That's not how you end a movie if you hope to make sequels.  

[/quote]

but isnt me1 sheperd running around to save the galaxy by killing the reaper but in the end it doesnt really matter because there are hundreds more on the way.

[Arua Shepard]

Mhhh is this a preview......:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1564585/


This happend to Earth when Shepard does not make it (Like what could happen in ME2)

Modifié par Arua Shepard, 05 novembre 2010 - 12:59 .

[sandokas]

Exactly.
The Reapers only harvest when the civilization is in danger to develop technology that will be a threat to them. What happens if they get delayed and discovered is that you'll just might be able to do the technological break through that would allow you fight back.
It's a bit like the Borg on Star Trek.

I hope ex-conselour Deanna Troy does play the part of Matriarch Benezia

Actually the true link to imdb is:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1482455/

Modifié par sandokas, 05 novembre 2010 - 01:10 .

[783earth]

Hope the movie will be full animated (like the Final Fantasy-Movies). The 3D-Engine from Mass Effect is extremly good. Everthing look cool and the emotions from the protagonists are reliable and very close to reality.



Love the end of Mass Effect 2...



Have to play Mass Effect the 3rd time



(This forum needs some "thumbs up"-function)

[mrbackfist]

They should just use the First Contact war in the beginning, like the new Star trek movie or The Fellowship of the Ring, and then feature a character affected by it set during the years between First Contact and Mass Effect. It could feature either a conflict with the baterians, or a group of turians who had lost people in First Contact, like Saren did.