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[Vormalon]

ghost135 wrote...

The reporter/hero proposed was no more than an insect scrambling around doing nothing to actually change an outcome that was inevitable.  That's the difference between the First Contact War and Shepard's story.  Shepard isn't an insect running around.  He's actually fighting for the continued existence of everyone in the galaxy.  The hero in the FCW just thinks that he is, but in the end it reveals that he did nothing of worth.  That's not how you end a movie if you hope to make sequels. 

If you want to make sequels, you dont start off with the biggest story, you build up to it. I think the FCW would make a great introduction to the universe, you'd still have an exciting story and it gets better as it catches up with the games.

[themerrygambit]

Let's face it both the face of Mark Vanderloo and the voice of Mark Meer are Iconic as Commander Shepard. One of them has to be there. The Problem is that Mark Vanderloo has a very soft spoken voice. And I think one thing that we all can relate to is Shepard's voice. Mark Meer's voice as Shepard is the one common denominator that we all heard regardless of how we customized him. But then again Vanderloo's features are just so god damned intense that it would be hard to pass up giving him a shot at a screen test. I say screen test both and see which one does it better. I mean maybe with a little digital magic we can have Vanderloo be the one in front of the camera and have him lip sink to Meer's dialog.

My other recommendation would be Karl Urban. He's got that intense look but also the deep voice and he's got solid acting chops.

Both Vanderloo and and Urban are a little old but they can still pull off the role especially with the makup jobs and CGI touchup they can do now a days.  

I think that if they don't have Keith David as Anderson, Martin Sheen as the illusive man, Yvonne Strahovski as Miranda and Seth Green as Joker that we'll likely have a riot on our hands. Carrie anne moss would be easy to cast as Aria because her model is based on Moss's face and the rest would be prosthetics anyway so she'd easily be able to play the roll.

Most of the alien voice actors would easily be able to reprise their rolls in the movie Particularly Brandon Keener as Garrus and any of the Krogans as they will most likely be CGI or heavy prosthetics anyway. (Garrus's voice is pretty damn important though). EDI, All of the alien NPCs, legion. They're all going to be CGI anyway so I say bring back the original voice actors... you really couldn't find better people to play them anyway and the fans would simply rejoice.

General hackett has to be Lance Henriksen... he's more than an acomplished actor, he fits the part perfectly and he's done the genre many times.

Marina Sirtis could easily reprise her role as Matriarch benezia. She's supposed to be old and she used to be a major character on star trek the next generation so she has plenty of acting time in the genre.

Ali Hillis is actually way hotter than her character Liara T'soni so I see absolutely no problem there! lol. In fact if there is one character I'd like to see improved it's Liara. She's kinda bland and I think Ali could add more to the character in live action.

Liz Sroka is easily able to pull off Tali as her character is completely covered anyway and most likely will be partially CGI.

Kaiden Alenko and Ashley williams and Jacob are the only tricky one's left as their voice actors don't quite match up to their voices.

Ashley Williams could easily be played by quite a few different girls, Jennifer Garner, Scarlett Johansen (drool) But probably my favorite would have to be Mila Kunis. She has it all. The looks the attitude and the voice.

Kaiden Alenko. You're almost better off going with a non famous actor for him though. His personality is fairly generic so that's a fairly flexible role in my book...

Jacob - Tough one. You definitely want a guy who's big but noble looking. His face is pretty distinctive as well. I say shave Adam Lazarre-White's head, Bulk him up a bit and give him a screen test. He's not terribly far off from the look of the character and at least we'd have the voice spot on. That being said I wouldn't mind seeing a famous person in this roll. Tyrese Gibson might be good... I dunno.

The rest are kind of up in the air for me or obvious choices. Anyone that's going to be CGI should obviously reprise their role and any of the tertiary Human roles could either be reprised by their voice actors or another actor who could pull it off with more character. I see No reason why Bailey couldn't be played by his voice actor for instance.

Sadley as amazing as Jennifer Hale's voice is for commander Shepard the Male Shepard is the most iconic out of the two of them.   And I don't think we could ever find a woman able to step into her shoes both from a vocal and physical presence.   I couldn't think of a better vocal than Jennifer's and I can't think of a better face to play Shepard than the one in the game. 

Anyway those are my thoughts on the matter.

Modifié par themerrygambit, 05 novembre 2010 - 05:32 .

[Omega-202]

Vormalon wrote...

If you want to make sequels, you dont start off with the biggest story, you build up to it. I think the FCW would make a great introduction to the universe, you'd still have an exciting story and it gets better as it catches up with the games.

Tell that to George Lucas.  He had to blow his whole stockpile in Star Wars Episode IV ending with the destruction of the Death Star in order to create enough of a draw for more movies.  

Imagine if he'd started with Episode I instead (I know that he hadn't written the prequels at that time and it was all just planning, but go with it).  Do you think they'd have ever made any sequels?  There was no major conflict.  It was all just acted out exposition.

That's what the FCW is.  Its a non event that simply acts as a "background info" dump.  Did Lucas need to have a prequel to New Hope that explained how there are space ships or how the Empire came to power or what the heck the Force is?  NO!!!  A GOOD MOVIE STANDS ON ITS OWN!!! 

ME 1 would make a great movie.  FCW would not.  That's the deciding factor.  Audiences don't need a set up movie if you have good writers and a good director.  All a set up movie does is drag down the entire endeavor.  

You can't go to the studio and say "Well we knew this movie was pretty lax on action and the ending sucked, but we had planned for a sequel that was way better.  Trust us and give us more money.  Ignore the fact that we tanked at the box office."  

You need to go in with your best stuff and blow the audience away.  A good writer doesn't need to give the audience a heck of a lot to go on in order to make it engaging.  

Let me end with this:  When you first saw Nihlus on the Normandy in ME 1, were you absolutely baffled to the point of non-enjoyment due to the fact that you had no idea what a turian was?  No?  Then why would a movie audience?  

[lrjq2009]

If the movie is the same as the game it will be awesome!

[XXVI]

Omega-202 wrote...

Master_Anthony wrote...

The problem with this idea was never that is was short, but rather that both sides come out looking like ignorant douchebags in the end. I may be wrong, this is just my opinion.

When the Council stops the Turians, everyone comes out with egg on their face.  Humanity thought they were fighting against an unstoppable existential threat.  They weren't.  The Council was never going to let the Turians wipe out humanity.  

It would be like ending the Matrix with someone stepping in and grabbing Agent Smith by the collar and saying "bad boy, go to your room".  The big bad guy in the film ends up being just a small cog in such a larger machine that it makes the entire movie seem insignificant.  

The reporter/hero proposed was no more than an insect scrambling around doing nothing to actually change an outcome that was inevitable.  That's the difference between the First Contact War and Shepard's story.  Shepard isn't an insect running around.  He's actually fighting for the continued existence of everyone in the galaxy.  The hero in the FCW just thinks that he is, but in the end it reveals that he did nothing of worth.  That's not how you end a movie if you hope to make sequels.  

I guess I just don't see what the problem is with this. I think that's actually a good ending, just to reveal that there is more to the Mass Effect universe than meets the eye.

Yes, everyone looks somewhat ignorant at the end. There's plenty of good war movies in which that's the case. How many damn wars are there in which nobody makes stupid mistakes? As a member of the military myself I can tell you that is NEVER the case. Besides, the dificulties of cultural clashes and exploration of the unknown are big themes in Mass Effect.

And yeah, the hero might seem smaller than the world around him or her. Honestly, I would prefer to see a "little ant scurrying around" as opposed to a comic book superhero, provided that the story and perspective are realistic. Are we hoping for a nuanced, intelligent, and realistic Blade Runner or BSG type movie, or an over-the-top superhero-esque Star Wars or Uwe Boll type movie? In the end, the least believable plot in the whole mythos is that of Sheperd, because nobody could ever possibly do everything that he/she does!

I'm really not trying to argue with anyone. I simply think that BioWare has purposefully set up the First Contact War as a possible movie plot, whether they decide use it or not. Why else would they do so little to actually flesh out the story in-game? All they've done is provided some codex entries and conversations. There's plenty to the story that we don't know, and could be different than what we've assumed so far.

Why not reveal that some devious force is keeping the Council blind to the conflict, and plans to let the Turians wipe out humanity? Or maybe said force is working to convince the Council that humanity is a threat that needs to be wiped out, and the whole thing was engineered while the Council turns a blind eye? We know for a fact that both Saren and the Illusive Man are just coming into their prime at the time; Saren is serving in the Turian military and the conflict takes place just 2 years before he becomes a Spectre. We know already that something happens which makes him hate humans, so in the end he could "swear his revenge" or some corny thing. The Illusive Man releases his first manifesto of human dominance just after Shanxi. David Anderson also serves in the conflict as an N7 agent. The movie could be an origin story for any or all of them! There's so much potential it's ridiculous.

[Eiyin K]

I personally think you guys should make the movie a prequel with different events that leads into the games. Such as 
the Fall of the Protheans, The Rachni War, or The Struggle that the Human race is going through with establishing themselves in the galaxy. Even though Shepard's Story is far more entertaining than that but i like the fact that me as the "Player" is shaping the galaxy and the choices i made will "Effect" the overall outcome of the Conclusion of this Epic Sci/Fi Fantasy. If the movie was based on Shepard then it'll be cut short it'll follow a predetermined plot so while watching it and i see the choices that i made in-game on the Big Screen play out differently than what i seen. Then it won't really feel like "I'm Shepard" mainly as a what if story. My final request (If you so choose to use my idea) is to finish movie off with the birth of Shepard. And have the Doctor say to Shepard's Mother "You have a Beautiful Healthy Baby" and don't have it gender specific for the final line in the movie (mainly for those who played Male/ Female Shepard). Just my thoughts on the movie but other than that, I Love you guys work. All of it, I can't wait for Mass Effect III and the Movie, Good Luck.

[Elriendel]

I'm thrilled with the idea of a cool ME movie!

But I hope it won't be finished until ME3 is released though. Too many bad game movies are out there, and my expectations for the last part of the game are real high, wouldn't want anything to spoil the franchise. Movies are never as good as books and games, it's a (sad) fact that usually makes me play and read before I watch.

[Elriendel]

Eiyin K wrote...

I personally think you guys should make the movie a prequel with different events that leads into the games. Such as 
the Fall of the Protheans, The Rachni War, or The Struggle that the Human race is going through with establishing themselves in the galaxy. Even though Shepard's Story is far more entertaining than that but i like the fact that me as the "Player" is shaping the galaxy and the choices i made will "Effect" the overall outcome of the Conclusion of this Epic Sci/Fi Fantasy.

That's a good idea. One of the coolest things in the game is the possibility to "shape" it with the many options we get to choose from. Watching the same story develop in a different way may not be that entertaining, and in that matter it's impossible to please everybody. Telling a different part of the story would be a solution.
It would be totally awesome to see people like Mark Vanderloo (dubbed by the original game voice actor, of course) and Yvonne Strahovski playing the characters they modelled for on the screen! Probably too good to become true, I guess, but if they tell a different part of the story, maybe they could make a cameo or something in it (one can always dream).
Lots of references to the funny stuff in the game (like the Elcor cast playing Hamlet) would be great too!

In case they shoot some other part of the story with another main character, it would be interesting  if this character could be included later on ME3 in a DLC. He would make a cameo in the game, and Shepard would make a cameo in the movie.

[ShepSoujaJosh]

oh man oh men, so awesum. can't w8 bioware!!!

[arolas6622]

its good that Legendary are behind the film, they are a great company. almost all of their movies were really good.

[arolas6622]

Elriendel wrote...

Eiyin K wrote...

I personally think you guys should make the movie a prequel with different events that leads into the games. Such as 
the Fall of the Protheans, The Rachni War, or The Struggle that the Human race is going through with establishing themselves in the galaxy. Even though Shepard's Story is far more entertaining than that but i like the fact that me as the "Player" is shaping the galaxy and the choices i made will "Effect" the overall outcome of the Conclusion of this Epic Sci/Fi Fantasy.

That's a good idea. One of the coolest things in the game is the possibility to "shape" it with the many options we get to choose from. Watching the same story develop in a different way may not be that entertaining, and in that matter it's impossible to please everybody. Telling a different part of the story would be a solution.
It would be totally awesome to see people like Mark Vanderloo (dubbed by the original game voice actor, of course) and Yvonne Strahovski playing the characters they modelled for on the screen! Probably too good to become true, I guess, but if they tell a different part of the story, maybe they could make a cameo or something in it (one can always dream).
Lots of references to the funny stuff in the game (like the Elcor cast playing Hamlet) would be great too!

In case they shoot some other part of the story with another main character, it would be interesting  if this character could be included later on ME3 in a DLC. He would make a cameo in the game, and Shepard would make a cameo in the movie.

They probably will do the movie on something liek that, they wont do the movie in the same time frame that the games are set in, but it will be about shepard (more than likely since when they first announced the movie they asked people to start talking about who they wanted to play shepard) so given that. it might be between the games. But then again a movie of the games would be great too, its just people will need to accept that probably wont be to 'their' choice influenced story. 

And I would prefer it be about shepard, ide love to see garrus and wrex on screen. but any of the many events in the ME universe would be cool too.

[tonykart34]

The movie should be set in the timeframe that the games were. People just need to understand that it is ok to watch how the movie decided to play it out and not just think their own choices were right. It will just be Hollywoods interpretation of the games and not the be-all-end-all correct story path.



If you did a prequel the movie would be too nerdy and too hard for the mass market to follow. It would also be much less entertaining and would only please the die hard ME fans.



I hope they make the movie follow the story of the first two games and don't go over the top with action scenes. I also hope they don't get self indulgent with the CGI.

[Ultenth]

tonykart34 wrote...

I hope they make the movie follow the story of the first two games and don't go over the top with action scenes. I also hope they don't get self indulgent with the CGI.

Personally I hope the opposite, and that they decide to make a full CG movie for an adult audience.  I think if you look at the high quality of their storytelling and acting in their games, combined with the amazing fx of their recent SWTOR and DA:II trailers, Bioware really needs to consider making a full rated PG-13/R CG movie of one of their franchises.  I think if it were done with the quality of the DA:II trailer or the SWTOR ones in terms of action and appearance, they would be wildly successful.

[ninja0809]

Ashley Williams could easily be played by quite a few different girls, Jennifer Garner, Scarlett Johansen (drool) But probably my favorite would have to be Mila Kunis. She has it all. The looks the attitude and the voice.

lol.....whenever i see Mila, i automatically picture her as Jackie from That 70s show and i laugh XD

[Nasulprak]

themerrygambit wrote...

Let's face it both the face of Mark Vanderloo and the voice of Mark Meer are Iconic as Commander Shepard. One of them has to be there....

...
Sadley as amazing as Jennifer Hale's voice is for commander Shepard the Male Shepard is the most iconic out of the two of them.   And I don't think we could ever find a woman able to step into her shoes both from a vocal and physical presence.   I couldn't think of a better vocal than Jennifer's and I can't think of a better face to play Shepard than the one in the game. 

Anyway those are my thoughts on the matter.

The movie would be based on the Mass Effect universe.  They could forgo all known characters and create a new group, or change things around a bit.

Or they can alter some settings such as maybe Commander Shepard were twins?  This giving Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale important roles.  Maybe only one of them would be a Specter, but that doesn't mean the other would play the back seat, one could play "Renegade" and the other "Paragon".  Or the movie experience will be very different from the video game as that story is already told.

Maybe the movie will show the events of Shanxi and the First Contact War.  Or maybe it could take place between ME1 and ME2 to help fill in some of the blanks.  Or the Movies Story could be something else entirely.  Either way, it should be fun to watch, and hopefully it will not be a spoiler to those who are part-way through a game.

[Jamin101]

Ultenth wrote...

tonykart34 wrote...

I hope they make the movie follow the story of the first two games and don't go over the top with action scenes. I also hope they don't get self indulgent with the CGI.

Personally I hope the opposite, and that they decide to make a full CG movie for an adult audience.  I think if you look at the high quality of their storytelling and acting in their games, combined with the amazing fx of their recent SWTOR and DA:II trailers, Bioware really needs to consider making a full rated PG-13/R CG movie of one of their franchises.  I think if it were done with the quality of the DA:II trailer or the SWTOR ones in terms of action and appearance, they would be wildly successful.

i think it would bomb, as a rule no adults see cgi movies.

animated movies for kids always make a ton. but its always animals in human situations.

avatar was the first true blend of cgi and action movies for adults. turians and all that should be done like the navi so they look normal next to humans:devil:

[Jamin101]

Nasulprak wrote...

themerrygambit wrote...

Let's face it both the face of Mark Vanderloo and the voice of Mark Meer are Iconic as Commander Shepard. One of them has to be there....

...
Sadley as amazing as Jennifer Hale's voice is for commander Shepard the Male Shepard is the most iconic out of the two of them.   And I don't think we could ever find a woman able to step into her shoes both from a vocal and physical presence.   I couldn't think of a better vocal than Jennifer's and I can't think of a better face to play Shepard than the one in the game. 

Anyway those are my thoughts on the matter.

The movie would be based on the Mass Effect universe.  They could forgo all known characters and create a new group, or change things around a bit.

Or they can alter some settings such as maybe Commander Shepard were twins?  This giving Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale important roles.  Maybe only one of them would be a Specter, but that doesn't mean the other would play the back seat, one could play "Renegade" and the other "Paragon".  Or the movie experience will be very different from the video game as that story is already told.

Maybe the movie will show the events of Shanxi and the First Contact War.  Or maybe it could take place between ME1 and ME2 to help fill in some of the blanks.  Or the Movies Story could be something else entirely.  Either way, it should be fun to watch, and hopefully it will not be a spoiler to those who are part-way through a game.

the reason any studio picked up this intellectual property was because it was making a ton of cash. it wont make money if it only pulls in the gamer audience and their spending ten on a ticket not 69.99.

i say get real actors, make it a real movie. the guy isnt even that good of a voice actor so i doubt his acting is super good and odds are there wont even be a remale shepard so thats a non issue

[Jamin101]

longlun wrote...

labdG wrote...

I'm worried. The Mass Effect games have a great story and universe so the movie can be great to. On the other hand, it can be total disaster becouse we all knoe that game movies doesn't usualy end up well and I think that Mass Effect is hard to make a movie for since it kind of alredy is but with choices.

Mortal Kombat (THE FIRST ONE) is still among my favourite movies of all time, Prince of Persia is another good movie (although they had a huge budget to make it good) and the Resident Evil series aren't too bad.  It's safe to say that it is entirely possible to make a good movie out of a good video game.

For the bad ones blame Uwe Boll, who makes all his movies with cheesy bullet time scenes, tacky and uninspiring dialogue, and random sex scenes to keep people from watching something else.  Not to mention all the other movie companies that try to earn easy money just by using the name alone (think Street Fighter, aside from the characters and the name, the storyline was ridiculous and almost had nothing to do with the games). 

For Mass Effect, there's a lot of open directions that they can go.  I'd be down whether Shepard is Paragon or Renegade.  And don't forget, Mass Effect universe is huge, so it doesn't even have to involve Shepard.  In fact I'd rather it not, since Shepard is OUR character and what we make him/her to be.  There's tons of possibilies, many of which I'm sure have been mentioned before (First Contact War, Krogan Rebellions, Aria's story, Jon Grissom Academy (I still need to read the book , etc...), or even TIM's canon backstory played by Emilio Estevez and the formation of Cerberus, which I'd be totally down with.) Oh, and blame Uwe Boll for bad video game movies.

Uwe Boll is terrible.

you literally just listed 3 of the worst critically rated movied of all time. mortal kombat is good as joke, resident evil was crap imo and didnt bother to see prince of persia because it looked terrible and got rated like it was. if they do the opposite of those movies ill be happy

[Jamin101]

mrbackfist wrote...

They should just use the First Contact war in the beginning, like the new Star trek movie or The Fellowship of the Ring, and then feature a character affected by it set during the years between First Contact and Mass Effect. It could feature either a conflict with the baterians, or a group of turians who had lost people in First Contact, like Saren did.

this is a great idea that should totally get done. i read lotr after the movie and had no idea what they were and with the prologue i was set for 12 hours of middle earth. show the war and then having anderson or whoever meeting shepard is the little nudge to the audience tieing everything together. it makes the universe appear to have a history while making past events seem important to the film

[Subs300]

Wow this is incredible news - As a huge fan of the Mass Effect universe, I am not going to expect the movie to be anywhere near as awesome as the game - instead it would be a better idea to appreciate the movie for what it will be on its own presentation platform. Celluloid is very different from silicon after all.



A good choice for the role of director would be J J Abrams.

I think that Sam Worthington will make a fine Commander Sheppard .... but thats just my opinion...

[Aergwest]

Garrus worked at C-Sec for years. Wrex is a bounty hunter. Tali was on her pilgrimage. Point being that almost every character (from both games) was doing something that would have them semi-mobile before the events of Mass Effect 1. The best solution would be some sort of prequel with supporting cameos of said characters, and little to no mention of Commander Shepard.

[GhostSeraph]

Eyesofjon wrote...

If Keanu Reeves Is Shepard, I will cry.

*stares blankly* "Whoah..."

[irishmandunne]

I heard they sold the story all right. If its as good as the games it will be class.

[DadeLeviathan]

Subs300 wrote...

Wow this is incredible news - As a huge fan of the Mass Effect universe, I am not going to expect the movie to be anywhere near as awesome as the game - instead it would be a better idea to appreciate the movie for what it will be on its own presentation platform. Celluloid is very different from silicon after all.

A good choice for the role of director would be J J Abrams.
I think that Sam Worthington will make a fine Commander Sheppard .... but thats just my opinion...

JJ Abrams? Really? you want the Mass Effect movie to be filled with forced dialogue, horrible one-dimensional characterization and enough horrible lens glares to give a blind person an epileptic seizure? To each his own, I suppose...

[Ultenth]

Jamin101 wrote...

i think it would bomb, as a rule no adults see cgi movies.

animated movies for kids always make a ton. but its always animals in human situations.

avatar was the first true blend of cgi and action movies for adults. turians and all that should be done like the navi so they look normal next to humans:devil:

I'm not saying it has to be mass effect, but I've show the DA:II trailer to some non-gamer friends who aren't into animated movies and even they said it was amazing.  I imagine if it was done with that (Or even HIGHER) quality, people would be able to suspend disbelief like they did with Avatar.  Either way, I hope they don't just sell the rights and walk away, and stay involved deep into the creation of the movie, IE go the Marvel movies route instead of the DC comics route.