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#5852
Posté 21 avril 2011 - 01:10
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Just an idea, the movie should be set at the time of the first contact war and/or before saren becomes rogue.... or the story of saren perhaps 
#5853
Posté 21 avril 2011 - 09:31
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CGI would work for this movie i think. They could make some badass environments too.
#5854
Posté 22 avril 2011 - 07:52
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Omg:-o I cant wait:D I love Mass Effect^^
#5855
Posté 23 avril 2011 - 07:42
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Perhaps after this I can finally force all my loved ones to play Mass Effect.
#5856
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 04:04
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Hulk Hsieh wrote...
I want the story of Saren and Anderson!<br />
Wrex and Aria can show up too since they should be old enough.<br />
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Bump!
I was wondering how many pages I'd have to go thru b4 someone posted that!
#5857
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 04:11
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Cancermeat wrote...
Cartoons are for children.
A comment that betrays the ignorance of the author: Has this poster ever watched Ghost In the Shell? Further, one of GiTS' episodes from season 1 (Jungle Cruise) was so graphic in terms of subject matter that it had a special adult content warning on top of the default warning Adult Swim on Cartoon Network provides for any show (GiTS included) within its time slot.
#5858
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 04:58
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I would love it if the mass effect movie was CGI or a realistic looking anime. But if it is just a mature typical-looking anime I wont have my hopes up too much on the quality of it.
#5859
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 06:01
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george martin wrote...
Movie? Awful idea, TV series much better.
I agree. A TV series is the best vehicle to explore the Mass Effect universe with the depth it deserves. TV has the additional advantage that it would moderate the risk of the producers. If it flops (which of course we hope and it expect wouldn't), the producers would only be on the hook for a single season. Better yet, they could lead with a two-hour pilot to see how a series would be received. A few suggestions concerning a ME TV series:
1-With one possible exception (FOX-only because of Fringe), do not let any legacy OTA network (ABC, CBS, NBC) touch the property. History has proven that these networks cannot be trusted with serious sci-fi material like ME. My first choice of network would be FX because they have several quality shows on at present with solid writing and acting. Further, FX will be removing two series at minimum in the near-term (Rescue Me-fine show, and Lights Out) so they'll have some room in their programming schedule by the time a ME series would be ready. Moreover, though FX has some wonderful shows on at present they have nothing like a serious Sci-fi opus so ME would be a good, complimentary fit. Finally, FX allows for mature content, so this would allow ME to be a serious, adult show in step with the spirit of the games. As for writers I have a unconventional suggestion. If possible get the writers from FX's Justified series. I realize that this is a ironic suggestion given Justified's setting in a small Appalachian town, but Justified's stories and character development is so good I'm confident that this show's talented writers would do proper justice to the ME story. The only problem is if Justified's writers would be available as the show just got renewed for a third season.
My backup choices for networks in order are Syfy, then Fox. Syfy should be a natural choice but I'm a bit concerned by a supposedly sci-fi-centric network that features wrestling, ghost hunters, and dino-croc. Of course, they hosted BSG for several seasons so perhaps they could properly pull a ME series off. Fox would be my last choice only because I think OTA network execs tend to be fickle and impatient with new shows in general and sci-fi in particular, so I'm unsure if Fox would give a ME series the time it may need to gel into a quality, long-term show.
2-A ME TV series should have a serious tone geared toward adults. Optimially, I'd personally like to see a series strike a balance between the extremely dark and dire tone of BSG and the more light-hearted nature of Syfy shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13. Put another way, likeable characters (good and evil) we will love or love to hate.
Finally, unlike most Sci-fi series, a ME series should take the time to explain the tech of its universe. The tech should be carefully woven into the stories and explain the strengths and weaknesses of things like mass accelerator cannons, FLT, sensors, kinetic barriers, omni tools and so on. You know-pretend that viewers actually have a brain and are interested in learning more about astro-phyical topics. I think series execs will be pleasantly surprised at how well content like this would be received by the viewing public.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 06:45
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It's a shame I have to go to work in several minutes because one of the few things I fancy myself a guru regarding is the television industry. I was part of the "Save Farscape" campaign of 2002-2004 and ever since then I've continued to show interest in the inner workings of the field, which is kind of funny since I haven't even had cable in several years now.
To voice my thoughts briefly for the time being, I feel that Mass Effect's best possible network pick-up would be a premium cable outlet such as HBO or Showtime. Sure, it will limit exposure, but these channels also provide by far the maximum creative freedom for their showrunners and they don't skimp on the visual effects, either. Through the mentality that a show will buy them customers just on its own merits when subscriptions climb for a successful project, these networks allow the most possibilities.
There would be a few drawbacks, such as a sharper focus on sexual content, but it probably wouldn't be half as bad as some might fear. Not to mention, the grungy universe of Mass Effect could survive a few such bouts. And there would be rationale -- don't expect True Blood levels of nudity just because the show is on HBO.
Fox is the most willing primetime network to entertain science fiction notions but its science fiction survival rate is still rather low. Fringe is living on scraps right now -- scraps that we Fringe fans are impressed with Fox's persistence for keeping up with. The series hit an all-time low 1.2 18-49 demo this past Friday night; suffice it to say, if it hadn't been renewed for a fourth season already, this would probably be it. So yes, if I had to pick between the primetime outlets, Fox would be my choice. But that's still not saying much.
Mass Effect as a television production, to me, should strike a balance between Battlestar Galactica, Firefly and a little bit of Farscape to accentuate the very alien universe. BSG's dark depths of the psyche, Firefly's gun-toting lawless lands (especially for the Terminus Systems) and Farscape's crazy-yet-familial nature.
I have a lot more to say on the unlikely prospect. I've actually brainstormed how the first two seasons (based on the first two games and at the decreasingly-utilized dream of a full 26 episodes per season) would play out. One of the troubles with this -- but then, a movie franchise would suffer from it as well -- is that many of us play drastically different Shepards. How do you set up a more intimate plotline with a particular character and not upset some fans? Hell, just the fact that it would almost certainly be a male Shepard would upset many fans.
The alternative is not to use the trilogy's plot arc at all and instead focus on another time period. This is in many ways probably for the best, but it might also limit viewership appeal in an already diminished genre once some Mass Effect fans realize they aren't joining Shepard in postponing a Reaper invasion every week.
To voice my thoughts briefly for the time being, I feel that Mass Effect's best possible network pick-up would be a premium cable outlet such as HBO or Showtime. Sure, it will limit exposure, but these channels also provide by far the maximum creative freedom for their showrunners and they don't skimp on the visual effects, either. Through the mentality that a show will buy them customers just on its own merits when subscriptions climb for a successful project, these networks allow the most possibilities.
There would be a few drawbacks, such as a sharper focus on sexual content, but it probably wouldn't be half as bad as some might fear. Not to mention, the grungy universe of Mass Effect could survive a few such bouts. And there would be rationale -- don't expect True Blood levels of nudity just because the show is on HBO.
Fox is the most willing primetime network to entertain science fiction notions but its science fiction survival rate is still rather low. Fringe is living on scraps right now -- scraps that we Fringe fans are impressed with Fox's persistence for keeping up with. The series hit an all-time low 1.2 18-49 demo this past Friday night; suffice it to say, if it hadn't been renewed for a fourth season already, this would probably be it. So yes, if I had to pick between the primetime outlets, Fox would be my choice. But that's still not saying much.
Mass Effect as a television production, to me, should strike a balance between Battlestar Galactica, Firefly and a little bit of Farscape to accentuate the very alien universe. BSG's dark depths of the psyche, Firefly's gun-toting lawless lands (especially for the Terminus Systems) and Farscape's crazy-yet-familial nature.
I have a lot more to say on the unlikely prospect. I've actually brainstormed how the first two seasons (based on the first two games and at the decreasingly-utilized dream of a full 26 episodes per season) would play out. One of the troubles with this -- but then, a movie franchise would suffer from it as well -- is that many of us play drastically different Shepards. How do you set up a more intimate plotline with a particular character and not upset some fans? Hell, just the fact that it would almost certainly be a male Shepard would upset many fans.
The alternative is not to use the trilogy's plot arc at all and instead focus on another time period. This is in many ways probably for the best, but it might also limit viewership appeal in an already diminished genre once some Mass Effect fans realize they aren't joining Shepard in postponing a Reaper invasion every week.
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Posté 25 avril 2011 - 01:58
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JeffZero: You made several good points. Though the thought of HBO and Showtime as carriers for ME did occur to me, and I agree that either network would probably do a good job with development. However, I didn't include them because of the exclusivity you mentioned. Sci-fi on television in general is a tough sell to begin with. Limiting the potential audience to premium network subscribers would compound this problem. I'll reference myself as an example. Though I'm a serious ME fanboy for sure, I wouldn't spend the extra $10-$12 per month just to watch a ME series, especially when I know said series would likely be available for rent or purchase within 6 to 12 months of initial airing. I suspect I would not be alone in making this choice, but so long as the ME series producers are OK with the reality of delayed revenue from renters and buyers, I suppose HBO or Showtime could work.
In terms of the series tone, how about a mixture of the series you mentioned plus Babylon 5 for intergalactic political and religious intrigue?
Your point about the loss of ME gamer interest due to lack of relation to the inevitable character choices show writers would have to make is logical, but I think it ultimately won't prove to be a problem for two reasons. The first is that whether the writer's view of Shep matches those of players or not, my instinct is that many gamers would tune in regardless for nostalgia sake-especially if the show gets good critical feedback. The second-and more important-factor is that I think a lot of non-ME players will have to tune in for the show to be considered a success by its developers. I don't know how many copies of ME have been sold, but I suspect these individuals in aggregate would not be enough to give a ME series the viewer numbers required. Thus, I suspect the show would be written in such a way to try and draw a substantial audience beyond ME game players. To this end, I think strong character and plot development will be key. Specifically, I think linked serial stories will be required week to week that will hopefully be sufficiently compelling to draw a loyal fan base in (again including and beyond ME game players). This also relates to your comment about the period a ME series should cover. I think it should start with the First Contact War and perhaps cover it throughout the first season. Then subsequent seasons could cover the content of the games. Further, I see no reason why the writers couldn't take some artistic license with the plot covering the period of the games to changes things a bit to increase interest for gamers watching the show.
By the way, if the period with Shep is ultimately covered I vote for a female Shep as the protagonist for three reasons. One (and I'm saying this as a middle-aged guy), it would offer a more compelling, out of the box character. Two, a smart, strong, yet flawed (as we all are) female in command would simply be more interesting to watch. Three, a well-written femshep would hopefully draw in more female viewers versus typical sci-fi fare. On a related note, if a ME movie or TV series is to be successful, I think it will need to focus a bit more on clever drama versus action (though would certainly hope for and expect some serious combat in space, air, and ground). Put another way, I think a strong drama wrapped around a sci-fi shell will do better with a larger audience than the inverse.
In terms of the series tone, how about a mixture of the series you mentioned plus Babylon 5 for intergalactic political and religious intrigue?
Your point about the loss of ME gamer interest due to lack of relation to the inevitable character choices show writers would have to make is logical, but I think it ultimately won't prove to be a problem for two reasons. The first is that whether the writer's view of Shep matches those of players or not, my instinct is that many gamers would tune in regardless for nostalgia sake-especially if the show gets good critical feedback. The second-and more important-factor is that I think a lot of non-ME players will have to tune in for the show to be considered a success by its developers. I don't know how many copies of ME have been sold, but I suspect these individuals in aggregate would not be enough to give a ME series the viewer numbers required. Thus, I suspect the show would be written in such a way to try and draw a substantial audience beyond ME game players. To this end, I think strong character and plot development will be key. Specifically, I think linked serial stories will be required week to week that will hopefully be sufficiently compelling to draw a loyal fan base in (again including and beyond ME game players). This also relates to your comment about the period a ME series should cover. I think it should start with the First Contact War and perhaps cover it throughout the first season. Then subsequent seasons could cover the content of the games. Further, I see no reason why the writers couldn't take some artistic license with the plot covering the period of the games to changes things a bit to increase interest for gamers watching the show.
By the way, if the period with Shep is ultimately covered I vote for a female Shep as the protagonist for three reasons. One (and I'm saying this as a middle-aged guy), it would offer a more compelling, out of the box character. Two, a smart, strong, yet flawed (as we all are) female in command would simply be more interesting to watch. Three, a well-written femshep would hopefully draw in more female viewers versus typical sci-fi fare. On a related note, if a ME movie or TV series is to be successful, I think it will need to focus a bit more on clever drama versus action (though would certainly hope for and expect some serious combat in space, air, and ground). Put another way, I think a strong drama wrapped around a sci-fi shell will do better with a larger audience than the inverse.
Modifié par ecl15723, 25 avril 2011 - 02:31 .
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Posté 25 avril 2011 - 03:27
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It sounds like you really know your stuff. It's a delight to speak with you at length about all this.
Regarding the premium cable options, you raise good points as well. The difficult sell of science fiction television these days -- especially space-based science fiction television -- is something of a Catch 22 to me; I would sooner list premium cable (ironically enough) because of this very fact. Yes, there are all the fewer people tuning in, which would of course be problematic. But on the other hand, in my experience it is precisely though premium subscribers who are most accustomed to thinking outside the box; they've done so by subscribing for the promise of content that broadcast and cable networks refuse to provide them. But still, you're right. It'd be a risky gamble.
Babylon 5! That's a good suggestion. I've seen more than a few posters compare many points of Mass Effect to the themes of Babylon 5. Having recently rewatched the series, I would tend to agree. That show's creator did a fantastic job of showing his viewers the very believable hardships of intergalactic matters and that's something that resonates very well with the games.
The ideas you've brought forth for a premise are certainly sound, although as much as I'd love to see the initial season covering the First Contact War, I could see network bigwigs feeling rather skittish about introducing us to various characters who would take back seats from year two onward. Incidentally, this makes me think of the aforementioned Babylon 5, which succeeded in continuing forth without Michael O'Hare in the central seat for several years after his departure. But with the First Contact War, we're really looking at season two taking a drastically different approach and I think most execs would rather the series begin with consistently identifiable leads. The war could be a miniseries spinoff, perhaps?
I think the suggestion of Shepard being female is a wonderful one and each of your three points I respect and agree with you on. Just so long as the writers don't make the disastrous choice of taking the female-seeking concept unnecessarily far (as I've seen certain folks doing of late) and transform much of the series' arc into a giant love affair, which is frankly rather demeaning anyway.
Not only for a better constant hook but because special effects shots simply can't be used every two minutes, the 'clever drama' idea is definitely the best way to go.
Oh, and to close things off for now, ME2 sold about five million copies, I believe. Five million viewers is a bigger or smaller number to varying networks; for HBO and Showtime it's respectable but for Fox it's caution-inducing. Although what really matters is the 18-49 demo. Of course, regardless I certainly wouldn't expect every buyer to tune in, especially since only the American numbers would matter to the networks for the most part. So yeah, what you said about having to reach out to more people is very, very true.
Regarding the premium cable options, you raise good points as well. The difficult sell of science fiction television these days -- especially space-based science fiction television -- is something of a Catch 22 to me; I would sooner list premium cable (ironically enough) because of this very fact. Yes, there are all the fewer people tuning in, which would of course be problematic. But on the other hand, in my experience it is precisely though premium subscribers who are most accustomed to thinking outside the box; they've done so by subscribing for the promise of content that broadcast and cable networks refuse to provide them. But still, you're right. It'd be a risky gamble.
Babylon 5! That's a good suggestion. I've seen more than a few posters compare many points of Mass Effect to the themes of Babylon 5. Having recently rewatched the series, I would tend to agree. That show's creator did a fantastic job of showing his viewers the very believable hardships of intergalactic matters and that's something that resonates very well with the games.
The ideas you've brought forth for a premise are certainly sound, although as much as I'd love to see the initial season covering the First Contact War, I could see network bigwigs feeling rather skittish about introducing us to various characters who would take back seats from year two onward. Incidentally, this makes me think of the aforementioned Babylon 5, which succeeded in continuing forth without Michael O'Hare in the central seat for several years after his departure. But with the First Contact War, we're really looking at season two taking a drastically different approach and I think most execs would rather the series begin with consistently identifiable leads. The war could be a miniseries spinoff, perhaps?
I think the suggestion of Shepard being female is a wonderful one and each of your three points I respect and agree with you on. Just so long as the writers don't make the disastrous choice of taking the female-seeking concept unnecessarily far (as I've seen certain folks doing of late) and transform much of the series' arc into a giant love affair, which is frankly rather demeaning anyway.
Not only for a better constant hook but because special effects shots simply can't be used every two minutes, the 'clever drama' idea is definitely the best way to go.
Oh, and to close things off for now, ME2 sold about five million copies, I believe. Five million viewers is a bigger or smaller number to varying networks; for HBO and Showtime it's respectable but for Fox it's caution-inducing. Although what really matters is the 18-49 demo. Of course, regardless I certainly wouldn't expect every buyer to tune in, especially since only the American numbers would matter to the networks for the most part. So yeah, what you said about having to reach out to more people is very, very true.
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Posté 25 avril 2011 - 06:46
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Why do so many people think this has to be based with Shepard? Please, NO SHEPARD. New story and characters would be much better... And ****** off much less people. I don't really care what time period they do it in, just no Shepard. More of something to expand the universe.
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Posté 25 avril 2011 - 11:00
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Either.Ardrey wrote...
Why do so many people think this has to be based with Shepard? Please, NO SHEPARD. New story and characters would be much better... And ****** off much less people. I don't really care what time period they do it in, just no Shepard. More of something to expand the universe.
I hear you, but I think you'll find mixed opinions about the inclusion of Shepard's character within any ME production. One the one hand we have your point about wanting new characters so viewers who are also ME gamers don't simply re-experience a movie/TV version of the game. On the other hand, let's call a duck a duck: Shepard is the focal point of ME. I can imagine many ME gamers (myself included) finding it more difficult to relate to a ME video property sans Shep. This is why I'm a proponent of the idea of focusing on the FCW to begin with (during which the writers could briefly introduce Shep as a child-he/she was only three years old at the start of the FWC), then spend time on events between the FCW and where the ME1 game starts. Reviewing the ME wikia timeline, a lot (much of it involving the rise of humanity in the ME universe) occurs during this period and would be new content to many gamers. This approach would also address JeffZero's valid concern about bridging the time between the FCW and the begining of ME1.
One more thing: Just because Shep and ME1-ME3 may be covered via a movie or TV series, doesn't mean that the latter has to follow the game plot closely. Take the original BSG and more recent remake thereof as an example. The both shared most of the principle characters and basic story, but had very different tone, to the point where the latest version barely resembled the original. I see no reason why a ME that includes Shep and covers ME1-3 couldn't do likewise with good writing and acting.
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#5865
Posté 27 avril 2011 - 07:28
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With Jason Satham as Shepard and Michelle Rodriguez as Ashley (I don't really care who will be starring, as long as the movie is awesome.)
#5866
Posté 28 avril 2011 - 10:55
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A movie would be great...if they made it using a art style like ff7 advent children or dead space down fall...
#5867
Posté 29 avril 2011 - 12:52
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Anime lowers the viewer's IQ. True story.
It's a shame that the series is having it's standard reduced to a minimum when being presented as a cartoon. And don't say that anime is more mature... just because it shows blood, characters cursing, having swinging breasts and buxom women every 5 minutes, with all the voice acting of a robot, does not make it any more mature or indepth.
They should make a REAL show... look at HBO and Starz right now; they have Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Spartacus, and Camelot on now. They really restored my faith in non-cable shows; talent is being poured into alot of television series... and Mass Effect is more than capable of being a spectacular show with real actors.
It's a shame that the series is having it's standard reduced to a minimum when being presented as a cartoon. And don't say that anime is more mature... just because it shows blood, characters cursing, having swinging breasts and buxom women every 5 minutes, with all the voice acting of a robot, does not make it any more mature or indepth.
They should make a REAL show... look at HBO and Starz right now; they have Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Spartacus, and Camelot on now. They really restored my faith in non-cable shows; talent is being poured into alot of television series... and Mass Effect is more than capable of being a spectacular show with real actors.
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#5868
Posté 29 avril 2011 - 12:59
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night_raven26 wrote...
With Jason Satham as Shepard and Michelle Rodriguez as Ashley (I don't really care who will be starring, as long as the movie is awesome.)
Ha! Love it, but someone else should be shepard... Jason Statham wouldn't give us the same feeling as shepard would; he's too much bravado and not enough intellect! If anything statham can play as Zaeed... just slap a nasty looking scar on one cheeck.
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#5870
Posté 30 avril 2011 - 07:23
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mangiraffedog000 wrote...
I've come to warn you about MAN-GIRAFFE-DOG!! It's the single greatest threat to humanity!! RUN AWAY!!
I'm still more Serial than ever guys.
You gota be kidding...
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Posté 30 avril 2011 - 07:37
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Therefore_I_Am wrote...
Anime lowers the viewer's IQ. True story.
It's a shame that the series is having it's standard reduced to a minimum when being presented as a cartoon. And don't say that anime is more mature... just because it shows blood, characters cursing, having swinging breasts and buxom women every 5 minutes
*ahem*
I'd
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before you insult the intelligence of anime fans
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#5872
Posté 01 mai 2011 - 11:52
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The film has to realistically either
a) Follow the plot of one of the books/graphics novels (Redemption would be awesome)
Be set before ME1
With both cases you are expanding established canon which isn't related to any choices the player makes. If it's going to be after ME3 (let's face it, unless you screw up the Reapers will be beaten) then it'll have to be set away from the main cast. We've grown attached to how they've grown towards our Shep so the film version wouldn't suit everyone
a) Follow the plot of one of the books/graphics novels (Redemption would be awesome)
Be set before ME1With both cases you are expanding established canon which isn't related to any choices the player makes. If it's going to be after ME3 (let's face it, unless you screw up the Reapers will be beaten) then it'll have to be set away from the main cast. We've grown attached to how they've grown towards our Shep so the film version wouldn't suit everyone
#5873
Posté 02 mai 2011 - 02:59
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Actually I believe the movie is about the "First Contact" war.
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Posté 02 mai 2011 - 05:41
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i think that mass effect movie is mass effect 1 movie... and it's better because people who doesn't know mass effect universe can understand it through the plot of the first great game...than obviously could follow mass effect 2 and all the other surrounding stories. the movie should be just like the games 
#5875
Posté 02 mai 2011 - 07:13
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AlexShepard89 wrote...
i think that mass effect movie is mass effect 1 movie... and it's better because people who doesn't know mass effect universe can understand it through the plot of the first great game...than obviously could follow mass effect 2 and all the other surrounding stories. the movie should be just like the games
I hope not, unless the movie Shep looks like mine and pursues a relationship with Liara. Then all is well. But in all seriousness, setting it during the game takes away that "you make the decision" edge that is one of the special qualities of the franchise. And there were some BIG decisions in ME1
