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[Maestro975]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

I'm having a debate with a friend on Facebook over this. He says they have to do this so they don't alienate the masses of fans. They have to base it around Shepard because that's what people know about Mass Effect.

No offense, but is your friend on dope? Those outside the circle of fans wouldn't be able to tell Shepard from Jon Grissom, or Jack Harper. The NG crowd might see a picture of Marcus Fenix, Master Chief, and John Shepard and associate them with Gears, HALO, and ME, but half of them won't have a name to attach to the face, "that guy from..." The only people who are displeased by the prospect of a Shepard-less ME movie (or Shepard-less ME stories in general) are narcissists who resent the implication that the ME universe dares to go on without their precious proxy. They are the ME equivalent of the always angry TOS geeks that Ron Moore (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and BSG) and Jeff Abrams have the balls to stand up to. BW lacks the same degree of courage, yet still manages to ****** the nerds off anyway.

Unless you're George Lucas with the Clone Wars animated film, your goal in making a film isn't to capture just the fans of the original material. Mass Effect should bring in new fans, and expand this universe. This is ridiculous, and makes me honestly sad that they would decide to make the film revolve around Commander Shepard. They said exactly this wouldn't happen. Their fans have asked them for this specifically not to happen.

Truer words were never spoken. The powers that be should be listening to this viewpoint and not those idiots at IGN.

[luvstosploog]

As a huge Mass Effect fan, I will not watch this.

[Maestro975]

luvstosploog wrote...

As a huge Mass Effect fan, I will not watch this.

Legendary Pictures has changed their FAQ information quite a few times now. Maybe they might actually listen to us and give us a Shepard-less adventure that actually makes use of the 30+ years of rich mythology that's there. 

The story NOT being based on the game is a step in the right direction. 

[hawat333]

yoshibb wrote...
Well they can live without my money then, cause my Shepard is female and I'm honestly sick of hearing about that stat. Yes a femshep, who wasn't marketed or mentioned at all had 20% players. Of course, that doesn't consider that people may have played both characters at one point.

Yeah, but as we all know, that's how money-making entertainment industry works.
I, for one, would love to see a depraved ME movie where Shepard is portrayed by Jena Malone, Zoe Saldana or Angelina Jolie, but it's not going to happen. If the majority portrays Shepard as a male character, it's only logical to follow that route with the adaptation too.

[Merwanor]

First of all i want to say that i really like the idea of a Mass Effect movie. The universe is basically made for the big screen. And not translating the games over to the movie or movies is a good choice. But don't ruin it with making the movie about Shepard. To some of you it might not sound so bad, but for me this is a deal breaker. Why? you may ask.

Because it ruins the whole aspect of the games where I make my shepard my own. To me Shepard is the voice of Mark Meer and the face of some model. Don't remember his name, atlast the default Shepard look. The Shepard i know grew up on earth and was the sole survivor of a tresher maw attack on a mission that went horribly wrong. He is a paragon of light and a hero of the galaxy etc etc.
And a movie with Shepard would not fit this character i have made and will continue to develop for the third game. Unless Bioware and Legendary Pictures are smart and make the movie all in CG like the awesome trailers that was released for ME2 or SWTOR. But even then the Shepard being made for the movie will probably be very different than the one i have made for myself.

The unvierse they made is very rich and it is sad that they don't try to do something new with it instead of do something similar to what has already been done. Let the games be about Shepard, and the movie introduce a new hero.

Modifié par Merwanor, 23 septembre 2011 - 01:47 .

[Maestro975]

hawat333 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...
Well they can live without my money then, cause my Shepard is female and I'm honestly sick of hearing about that stat. Yes a femshep, who wasn't marketed or mentioned at all had 20% players. Of course, that doesn't consider that people may have played both characters at one point.

Yeah, but as we all know, that's how money-making entertainment industry works.
I, for one, would love to see a depraved ME movie where Shepard is portrayed by Jena Malone, Zoe Saldana or Angelina Jolie, but it's not going to happen. If the majority portrays Shepard as a male character, it's only logical to follow that route with the adaptation too.

A true fan would want something that's independent of the games, though still taking place in the same universe, rather than a film version of their own playthrough. They would also want something smart, not depraved.

Modifié par Maestro975, 23 septembre 2011 - 01:43 .

[Alex533]

If its true that Daft Punk will do the soundtrack, that kind of sucks. I mean Daft Punk are good and all. I just imagined a Mass Effect movie having orchestral as well as electronic music within it.

[JeffZero]

Legendary has updated their movie Q&A panel with more accurate answers, apparently.

http://www.legendary...tions-answered/

MASS EFFECT
Q:  Will it just be an adaptation of the first game, second game, or a completely new story?
A:  It will focus on Commander Shepard's journey, centering around the story of the original Mass Effect game.
Q:  How are you going to address the element of 'choice' that the players have in the game?
 A:  The writer is weaving a path through Shepard's decisions
that best supports the narrative of the movie and the motivations of its
characters.
Q:  Will it be a trilogy?
A:  We are really focused on making this a great movie, so we'll see
where it takes us.  We have to get the first one right to know whether
there will be more.
Q:  Will Seth Green portray Joker, the character he voiced in the game?
A:  No casting decisions have been made yet.  
Q:  Will the movie be focused on Shepard?
A:  Yes.
Q:  If the movie is focused on Shepard, will it be the male Shepard or the female Shepard?
A:  Male.
Q:  Can you give any hints to potential casting?
A:  No.  Stay tuned.
Q:  Will BioWare allow plot / character changes?
A:  Yes, we are working closely with BioWare on the development of this project. 
Q:  Would you consider Daft Punk to do the soundtrack?
A:  We love Daft Punk, but it's too early to say who will produce the soundtrack.

Many are the same answers as before but a few are different. The first in particular is vastly different.

[Pani Mauser]

If the movie is about Shepard, I'm not watching. And it's not even about femShep vs maleShep. It is about creating 'canon' Shepard. The books avoided the question just fine, and i would prefer movie to take the same route.

Majority of players played male Shepard, so let's assume the gender is fine(which for me is not). But what about origins? Is he Spacer, Earthborn or Colonist? Is he War Hero, Ruthless or Sole Survivor? Does he have biotic powers or not? Who is on the team and who is romanced? Etc.

People who never played the game just don't know and won't care. And for people who played the game, 'wrong' answer will ruin the experience, because it is not Shepard they know. So meh... Also, can you imagine Garrus with different voice or Liara with different face?

I really hope they rethink it and create movie about new characters to expand Mass Effect Universe instead of ruining it.

[JeffZero]

Wrong answer won't ruin the experience for me personally. I'm more than OK with accepting the movie for what it will be -- an alternate telling of the legend.

I have very strong doubts it will be an especially good movie in general though, but I'd like to be proven wrong.

[Chari]

So movie was announced? Good
Movie about SHEPARD? BAD
Movie about male hero? AGAIN?! HORRIBLE!
I mean, if ya Bioware don't respect us, female players so much I'm not gonna buy ME3. Ya know, I'm female! We don't play Sci-fi, fantasy, right? *sarcasm*
We do not need a movie about Shepard. Every gamer has got her/his own Shepard. Unique character, unique choices. It's the best thing about your games. Don't ruiny it by making sub-canon film. After all... who will be this movie Sheaprd LI? Liara? Miranda? Who??? Oh, it will cause such a war between fans

[Alex533]

A movie will be interesting. Who cares if its a male shepard with different choices from your playthrough? Thats why its a movie and not part of the games.

[Maestro975]

JeffZero wrote...

Legendary has updated their movie Q&A panel with more accurate answers, apparently.

http://www.legendary...tions-answered/

MASS EFFECT
Q:  Will it just be an adaptation of the first game, second game, or a completely new story?
A:  It will focus on Commander Shepard's journey, centering around the story of the original Mass Effect game.

Many are the same answers as before but a few are different. The first in particular is vastly different.

Again, BW and LP need to stop listening to those idiots at IGN, and instead accept input from those of us who know who Jon Grissom and Eliza are, what Gagarin Station is, etc. (You're not a huge fan if you don't know these things, I'm pointing fingers at IGN's self-described "expert on ME' and bet dollars to donuts she has no idea what any of those things are). And maybe read The Mote in God's Eye and/or Flag in Exile for further inspiration. The games have Shepard, the books have Sanders, the films should have someone else, in a storyine independent of Shepard vs Reapers, though still keeping with the larger theme of humanity taking its first steps into a larger world. Don't remake the game for the screen, most of those who played it will be like "been there, done that," and the more critical NG crowd that film will need to draw in will be scratching their head, or worse.

HACKETT:  Shepard, the Alliance Navy has a problem that only YOU can solve.

This is the kind of thing that has NG audience rolling their eyes. 

Pandering to those who insist "It has to be about Shepard, anything else would suck" crowd is as stupid as trying to cater to those elitists art snobs at the Village Voice (that snooty **** Karina Longworth most likey sees the entire ME intellectual property as just an excuse to shoot something, tarring it into the same brush as Doom and Quake).

And assuming that putting in a ton of alien eye candy will lure the NG crowd in, that worked sooo well for Green Lantern. If anything, an inagural film would probably need to make fairly conservative use of the non-asari aliens, because if they don't look lifelike and convincing, then it's a no go. This is an untested property. It's easy for a hardcore gamer to look at the games and think "man, this would be ****ing epic on the screen," but it's a tough sell for those who don't play VGs. When they hear the words "video game movie", their reaction is similar to how most women react when a balding guy in a tacky leisure suit and bad toupee approaches them and says "Giggidy giggidy giggidy giggidy let's have sex." 

And I'm not sure if I would want James Cameron either, if Avatar is any indication, there is a good chance that he would heavy-handedly denounce the genophage as a racist hate crime, and would probably depict the Council as Orwellian, TIM as a Laventry Beria style megalomaniac, and the Alliance as triggerhappy rednecks (with Anderson being one of the few exceptions). 

[night_raven26]

Maestro975 wrote...

And I'm not sure if I would want James Cameron either, if Avatar is any indication, there is a good chance that he would heavy-handedly denounce the genophage as a racist hate crime, and would probably depict the Council as Orwellian, TIM as a Laventry Beria style megalomaniac, and the Alliance as triggerhappy rednecks (with Anderson being one of the few exceptions). 

That... would... be... AWESOME!!!  LOL jk

however, I don't see why everyone thinks movie is such a big deal. C'mon people, you have the games - Casey Hudson himself said there is no canon Shepard. What do you care if a movie shepard is male or female, paragon or renegade, (s)he isn't cannon. Your and only your Shepard is canon, therefore, it the movie would be about a male paragon Shepard who makes a decision you didn't (e.g. saves the council when you sacrificed it or vice versa - nontheless, I still think that decision in the movie (if it's will be about the 1st game) should be made by admiral Hackett. I mean, he's the admiral, a higher rank than Shepard, it makes more sense that he would make that decision...), then it would be like watching someone else's playthrough. What's wrong with that? You see things from a different perspective AND you know that that movie Shepard isn't canon. Who cares what other people think. We, who actually played the games multiple times know that our Shepard is canon.

[Maestro975]

night_raven26 wrote...

Maestro975 wrote...

And I'm not sure if I would want James Cameron either, if Avatar is any indication, there is a good chance that he would heavy-handedly denounce the genophage as a racist hate crime, and would probably depict the Council as Orwellian, TIM as a Laventry Beria style megalomaniac, and the Alliance as triggerhappy rednecks (with Anderson being one of the few exceptions). 

That... would... be... AWESOME!!!  LOL jk

however, I don't see why everyone thinks movie is such a big deal. C'mon people, you have the games - Casey Hudson himself said there is no canon Shepard. What do you care if a movie shepard is male or female, paragon or renegade, (s)he isn't cannon. Your and only your Shepard is canon, therefore, it the movie would be about a male paragon Shepard who makes a decision you didn't (e.g. saves the council when you sacrificed it or vice versa - nontheless, I still think that decision in the movie (if it's will be about the 1st game) should be made by admiral Hackett. I mean, he's the admiral, a higher rank than Shepard, it makes more sense that he would make that decision...), then it would be like watching someone else's playthrough. What's wrong with that? You see things from a different perspective AND you know that that movie Shepard isn't canon. Who cares what other people think. We, who actually played the games multiple times know that our Shepard is canon.

That's not the issue, the people ****ing about canon Shepards are tightwads regardless of what side of the fence they're on. The issue is that by essentially remaking ME1 for the screen when they SHOULD be utilizing the ample opportunities for a more fresh story. Been there, done that for anyone whose played it, and for those that haven't, who are far more important, a film version of Shepard's tale is NOT the ideal introduction for them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a biased RPGnerd whose own blind affection for the game (something that will NOT be shared by 95% of the people a film would need to attract) is clouding their judgment.  

Start with the Prothean discovery on Mars, then give us the First Flight and the First Contact War, then explore the aspects of the universe the game barely touches upon. You do not need a ton of explosions and spectacle (in fact, that can be counter-productive, greedy theater owners are pushing overpriced 3D tickets on those films, and audiences have gotten wise, ticket sales have dwindled, and "I'll wait for the DVD" attitudes have increased, in the last couple years. Vendors have jacked up ticket prices to [over]compensate. The theaters would sell a lot more tickets if they stopped gouging, but that's another point), you can do a movie that takes place almost entirely on the Citadel, Elysium, etc. Quality, not quantity. Video game movies are critical Kryptonite, so they really need to be taking the Star Trek route here. They have the wiggle room but they refuse to use it, this is like being given eyes but refusing to see.... ****ing idiots.

[themonty72]

This might be a good or bad thing. Video games that turn into movies always suck. Better hired George Lucas for director.

[RKB28]

George Lucas?Hell no, I want the man away from ME. Get Neill Blomkamp for instance. But then again, he said that he didn´t want to do blockbusters...


Oh, and this crap about movie Shepard being cannon is starting to get anoying.


HE IS NOT CANNON, HE´S JUST ANOTHER CHAR, BUT CREATED IN REAL LIFE!.

Jesus, is it so hard to understand this?

And those that say that they don´t want to have a feeling of deja vu while seeing the movie, how many playthroughs have you guys done?

[Herethos]

I'm not too sure of a movie about Shepard, that's for us to decide the outcome of in the games. I'd rather see something that expands the background story fluff about the ME universe, maybe during the discovery of the prothean ruins on mars, going into the first contact war. Or even after the reaper aftermath, basicly before or after the Mass Effect trilogy, unless that will be covered in future novels.

[g_mer]

Reading this thread stating that the movie will suck just dissapoints me. Why would it? Because they use Shepard we all came to like through the games of ME 1 and 2? And is it just because the movie's Shepard will differ from your own-made one doesnt mean it wont be interesting to watch. I dont know you guys, but I already played the game through 5 times, with 4 different Shepards just to see all the possible consequences being Paragon and Renegade and I enjoyed every time I played. It was like easter eggs for me, always searching for new dialogues and such. And you dont like it because its "just" an adaptation? Should they based it on a First Contact War? Well, maybe it will be interesting to us fans of the GAME, we already know the story, but think about the people who are not familiar with it. They would see a humans vs aliens cliché with much less interesting possibilities. Heck, if ME1 would have been the First Contact War I doubt it would be such popular as it is today. First Contact War is nice WHEN you already got used to the universe of ME. In ME1 we slowly get introduced to different races, all coming with something unique to them. We got Turians, Asari, Salarians, Krogans, not mentioning the Elkors and Volus and so on. If it would be a FCW, then all we were seeing would be Turians. At the end of the movie maybe the full council with all the other races, but thats not why we get loved ME. It would be like watching spaceships shooting lasers all the way in the galaxy. Its not that interesting as having a full squad of special badass aliens around and having the Chuck Norris of the galaxy, aka Shepard, as the main hero. I personally found ME1 the best RPG game ever at that time when I played because its well-written story. I searched for the sidequests just to learn more about its rich universe. Having FCW you couldnt know that, just because humanity at that point didnt know anything about other races and the council, so it would not be as interesting as a normal ME1 adaptation. What I would like to see is a pure adaptation of the ME1 game, without any changes in the characters. I dont want to have a JarJar Binks on board just to have some laugh for kids and wider audiances. The original voice actors would be awesome, having them like Andy Serkis in LotR imo. As for why we need ME1 for the adaptation is simple, its already like a movie. Beautiful sights (think about the Citadel), great characters and great story. Its a safe choice for making your first movie. It would be a great foundation of the following sequels of ME, THEN could come FCW. You cant play the DLCs without playing the game first if you know what I mean. Be positive on this! After all, THEY made you CARE about ME bacause THEIR WORK was that GOOD.

[ARC_trooper]

This movie will be awesome!

If they involve shepard and the storyline of the game they should create it so that all the "right" decisions are made. (Paragorn style)

However i would personally like it more that its more a 'backstory' and gives us intell about how everything transpired.. Perhaps all the way back to the first contact war? or finding the ruins on mars? etc..

Would be awesome lol

[Kakalukya]

I dont mind as long as it is a good movie

[NoxNoctum]

Unfortunately 99.99% chance it will suck.

Has there ever been a good video game movie? Don't think so.

Real shame cause the story is very movie worthy.

edit: just heard the guy who wrote the script for thor and i am legend is writing the script for this... movie will definitely be terrible.

Modifié par NoxNoctum, 03 octobre 2011 - 10:41 .

[Grekofrog]

NoxNoctum wrote...

Unfortunately 99.99% chance it will suck.

Has there ever been a good video game movie? Don't think so.

Real shame cause the story is very movie worthy.

edit: just heard the guy who wrote the script for thor and i am legend is writing the script for this... movie will definitely be terrible.

I agree with this dude D:
In my opinion, making a movie adaption of this franchise will taint and destroy it. 
Its a direct and honest opinion , but there it is. 

Thor was terrible, I am Legend was watchable. 
I am Norwegian, i would like to spit that guy who wrote the Thor script. It angers me to see how Hollywood balls down the harsh Norse mythology -.-

[ThomasAM]

Since this will obviously be released after ME3 why not do a story about a completely different band of soldiers during the reaper war, or even better do a movie of the books (have not read them). Although a movie of the first game seems to be better so that new audiences can be introduced to the already complex game world.