Mass Effect Movie announced!
#751
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:18
But it's so easy to ruin a movie by a choice of crappy actors playing "badass". You know, the Vin Diesel or The Rock type of actors.
A smart move would be of using Fem-Shep instead of Male-Shep this time because all the game publicity has been with Male-Shep. It would feel different too, I'd like to see a strong female lead. But finding the right person won't be easy I guess, whatever is their choice.
#752
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:20
Even without Uwe Boll this could be a disaster. Of course it could be a good thing, too, but... just... you guys realize that the whole idea of an rpg is to let the player actually ROLEPLAY the character - give them their personality, choose their actions like they would choose, etc? If there will be a Shepard, it kinda ruins it. Then there would be that one Shepard and everything else would be... non-canon. Out of character. Our Shepards would be... would not be Shepards anymore. I even hated it when there was this male Revan thing - if it was 'he' in the canon why on earth could we play as a female and lead ourselves to think that it fits the universe? (Maybe I'm making too much of an issue out of these things, but I just hated it that I had my dear F!Revan there and then she was... like, oc...)
I do not support a movie including Shepard. I'm even a bit wary about including his/her crew. Something other would be okay, though - the movie would, you know, expand the universe. It would be damn cool if it told a story about Anderson, for example. Or Udina. Or Saren. Just not about Shepard - it's not going to tell the same story the game(s) already told, is it? ... I sure hope so. A game is so close to a movie already, as a format - surely there's no need for a movie about it/them, is there? (And I mean by that that there are cutscenes, conversations, exploration etc that you actually see and hear; compare this to reading a book, for example, when you have to imagine everything in your own mind.)
I know people have made these points already but heck, thanks for giving me a chance to vent this out anyway. ^^
(I actually read the last few pages of this thread and I totally support the First Contact War idea! And if there HAS to be a Jack I would give my vote to Natalie Portman! She's gorgeous without her hair! Eh... If Natalie Portman played her I would actually support her being in the movie... *mumbles* anything to see her bald again...)
#753
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:20
LuxDragon wrote...
I'd like to see Karl Urban as Shepard. He seems to have that 'tough' soldier presence for the role.
Completely agree.
He was great in Chronicles of Riddick, and amazing in Bourne Supremacy. In Bourne Supremacy I half-wished his character wouldn't die so he could reprise the role.
His "Bones" McCoy is fine, but I'd much rather see him in action roles.
I bet he'd be an excellent conflicted, Paragade Shepard.
#754
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:21
Grim_Phandango wrote...
xensung wrote...
Lets talk about how to make it good versus, not how a movie will destroy your favorite game franchise... which is ridiculous... Thats like saying all my love of transformers from my youth is void because Meagan fox cant act and Michael Bay can't direct... Not a fan of these movies but my love for transformers is still the same.
A Mass Effect film would be best served by trying to overwhelm viewers with size and scope. Space is huge, battleships are enormous, the explosions are many and gigantic. As I said in a previous post, the film, should it ever actually materialize, will be one of specatcle, not high drama. Actoring chops and writing will be, and probably should be, secondary to special effects and the like. It is really a case of style over substance, which doesn't mean bad, it just means shallow.
I like Mass Effect and all, but let's not pretend it's Dostoevsky here.
I agree except I would say you can get good actors without eating your effects budget... You want good actors not huge stars. You can have some no names and some break out TV actors. Also the characters and the story was more important then the scifi (excuse me I mean SyFy). Mass Effect is a human story, with drama and romance. These are powerful elements that can not be left out. The effects need to be there, and they need to be big. Most importantly however Mass Effect is about people and humanity.
Modifié par xensung, 25 mai 2010 - 11:22 .
#755
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:22
shajs wrote...
No... NO. HELL NO. I REFUSE.
Even without Uwe Boll this could be a disaster. Of course it could be a good thing, too, but... just... you guys realize that the whole idea of an rpg is to let the player actually ROLEPLAY the character - give them their personality, choose their actions like they would choose, etc? If there will be a Shepard, it kinda ruins it. Then there would be that one Shepard and everything else would be... non-canon. Out of character. Our Shepards would be... would not be Shepards anymore. I even hated it when there was this male Revan thing - if it was 'he' in the canon why on earth could we play as a female and lead ourselves to think that it fits the universe? (Maybe I'm making too much of an issue out of these things, but I just hated it that I had my dear F!Revan there and then she was... like, oc...)
I do not support a movie including Shepard. I'm even a bit wary about including his/her crew. Something other would be okay, though - the movie would, you know, expand the universe. It would be damn cool if it told a story about Anderson, for example. Or Udina. Or Saren. Just not about Shepard - it's not going to tell the same story the game(s) already told, is it? ... I sure hope so. A game is so close to a movie already, as a format - surely there's no need for a movie about it/them, is there? (And I mean by that that there are cutscenes, conversations, exploration etc that you actually see and hear; compare this to reading a book, for example, when you have to imagine everything in your own mind.)
I know people have made these points already but heck, thanks for giving me a chance to vent this out anyway. ^^
Another one after my own heart.
Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 25 mai 2010 - 11:22 .
#756
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:22
btw, Seth Green as Joker is a given.
#757
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:23
Lady_KL wrote...
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Personally I'm not really sure what to say. To me, a movie sorta ruins the whole point of Mass Effect. It's about the choices you make in the game, and how it effects everything around you (hence mass effect?). If a movie pops up, I'd think it would ruin the fun.
Now, if this would be about expanding the universe, and focused not so much on Shepard, I will be excited. Otherwise, I'm still 'eh'.
Hmm maybe.... when the DVD comes out and you watch it... the choices menu will pop up on screen and you can select it with your remote controller.
#758
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:23
Like, how humans discovered the Prothean ruins on Mars, and the events leading up to the First Contact War.
That would leave the producers at a perfect stage from which to either delve into the game material (maybe end with the introduction of Shepard as a cliffhanger leading to the next movie) or make more sequel spin-offs.
#759
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:25
Grim_Phandango wrote...
FutureBoy81 wrote...
Speaking of such how big do you guys think the budget will be for this, game movies dont have the best of rep, so im thinking it will get a modest backing but i also think alot depends on whos directing to get the most out of the money there going to get, id go for about 70-80 million bracket ...
Cg is expensive, and Mass Effect would be full of it. 120-150 million is the about were it would have to be to be adequate, 180 million is improbable, but not entirely impossible. Prince of Persia, for example, was budgeted at around 200 million, so yeah, 70-80 isn't doing.
Yeah your right about the expenses of CGI which of course bring's us to the director, because there are certian director's who dont need that kind of budget to produce a good film, going on todys financial climate 100 million at most especially being this movie would be considered a leap of faith for most studios and somtimes a massive budget can ruin a movie .....
#760
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:27
xensung wrote...
Grim_Phandango wrote...
xensung wrote...
Lets talk about how to make it good versus, not how a movie will destroy your favorite game franchise... which is ridiculous... Thats like saying all my love of transformers from my youth is void because Meagan fox cant act and Michael Bay can't direct... Not a fan of these movies but my love for transformers is still the same.
A Mass Effect film would be best served by trying to overwhelm viewers with size and scope. Space is huge, battleships are enormous, the explosions are many and gigantic. As I said in a previous post, the film, should it ever actually materialize, will be one of specatcle, not high drama. Actoring chops and writing will be, and probably should be, secondary to special effects and the like. It is really a case of style over substance, which doesn't mean bad, it just means shallow.
I like Mass Effect and all, but let's not pretend it's Dostoevsky here.
I agree except I would say you can get good actors without eating your effects budget... You want good actors not huge stars. You can have some no names and some break out TV actors. Also the characters and the story was more important then the scifi
(excuse me I mean SyFy). Mass Effect is a human story, with drama and romance. These are powerful elements that can
not be left out. The effects need to be there, and they need to be big. Most
importantly however Mass Effect is about people and humanity.
No, Mass Effect is a decently written space opera that is about as deep as a Star Wars film. Those a fine films, ones I truly love, but they are not about anything more than the monomyth, and any attempts to add greater depth have been either bad or so far removed from the source as to unrecognizable outside of the prescence of Lightsabers and Jedi.
As to the romance and drama of Mass Effect, I would argue that the plot is more about human exceptionalism, but this isn't the time or place for that.
#761
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:27
some things are meant to be animated
(dragonball comes into mind *urgh*)
#762
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:29
I mean I LOVE Mass Effect and the universe coming up around it and of course I'll go a see the movie. I'm just concerned that it might sink. However it reassures me that bioware will be heavily involded.
P.S. Fox better not say anything stupid...
#763
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:30
shajs wrote...
No... NO. HELL NO. I REFUSE.
Even without Uwe Boll this could be a disaster. Of course it could be a good thing, too, but... just... you guys realize that the whole idea of an rpg is to let the player actually ROLEPLAY the character - give them their personality, choose their actions like they would choose, etc? If there will be a Shepard, it kinda ruins it. Then there would be that one Shepard and everything else would be... non-canon. Out of character. Our Shepards would be... would not be Shepards anymore. I even hated it when there was this male Revan thing - if it was 'he' in the canon why on earth could we play as a female and lead ourselves to think that it fits the universe? (Maybe I'm making too much of an issue out of these things, but I just hated it that I had my dear F!Revan there and then she was... like, oc...)
I do not support a movie including Shepard. I'm even a bit wary about including his/her crew. Something other would be okay, though - the movie would, you know, expand the universe. It would be damn cool if it told a story about Anderson, for example. Or Udina. Or Saren. Just not about Shepard - it's not going to tell the same story the game(s) already told, is it? ... I sure hope so. A game is so close to a movie already, as a format - surely there's no need for a movie about it/them, is there? (And I mean by that that there are cutscenes, conversations, exploration etc that you actually see and hear; compare this to reading a book, for example, when you have to imagine everything in your own mind.)
I know people have made these points already but heck, thanks for giving me a chance to vent this out anyway. ^^
(I actually read the last few pages of this thread and I totally support the First Contact War idea! And if there HAS to be a Jack I would give my vote to Natalie Portman! She's gorgeous without her hair! Eh... If Natalie Portman played her I would actually support her being in the movie... *mumbles* anything to see her bald again...)
HERETICS HERETICS GET THE PITCH FORK AND TORCHES HON
#764
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:31
FutureBoy81 wrote...
Grim_Phandango wrote...
FutureBoy81 wrote...
Speaking of such how big do you guys think the budget will be for this, game movies dont have the best of rep, so im thinking it will get a modest backing but i also think alot depends on whos directing to get the most out of the money there going to get, id go for about 70-80 million bracket ...
Cg is expensive, and Mass Effect would be full of it. 120-150 million is the about were it would have to be to be adequate, 180 million is improbable, but not entirely impossible. Prince of Persia, for example, was budgeted at around 200 million, so yeah, 70-80 isn't doing.
Yeah your right about the expenses of CGI which of course bring's us to the director, because there are certian director's who dont need that kind of budget to produce a good film, going on todys financial climate 100 million at most especially being this movie would be considered a leap of faith for most studios and somtimes a massive budget can ruin a movie .....
Actually, the present financial climate is why the budget would be higher, in order to maximize potential viewers through the sheer spectacle. The director is important, but large films tend to be made by committee, unless the director is someone like James Cameron or Steven Speilberg.
#765
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:31
Personally, I don't care that much about it. The thing that I fear the most is that it's going to throw away the source material and "re-imagine" everything, with subtle names,places and references that sorta-kinda resemble those in the games.
I was going to list examples, but then I realised that every single movie based on a game does this.
Asari make-up is going to look like this.
[smilie]http://www.zuguide.com/image/Alan-Rickman-Galaxy-Quest.2.jpg[/smilie]
#766
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:32
Sure, special effects are pretty since they flash in your eyes and are too chaotic to know what's going on in the movie.
I am not expecting it to be a good movie. Hell, I haven't seen a good movie in years and have to settle for black and white and other old ones.
#767
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:32
REB-ART4 wrote...
P.S. Fox better not say anything stupid...
Fox not saying something stupid would cause a black hole in the middle of the universe. Its almost impossible.
I can see it now.
"Top news for today, a porn stimulator called Mass Effect is now turning into a movie? Is bioware advertising sex to young adults? Thats up next."
#768
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:33
Grim_Phandango wrote...
xensung wrote...
Lets talk about how to make it good versus, not how a movie will destroy your favorite game franchise... which is ridiculous... Thats like saying all my love of transformers from my youth is void because Meagan fox cant act and Michael Bay can't direct... Not a fan of these movies but my love for transformers is still the same.
A Mass Effect film would be best served by trying to overwhelm viewers with size and scope. Space is huge, battleships are enormous, the explosions are many and gigantic. As I said in a previous post, the film, should it ever actually materialize, will be one of specatcle, not high drama. Actoring chops and writing will be, and probably should be, secondary to special effects and the like. It is really a case of style over substance, which doesn't mean bad, it just means shallow.
I like Mass Effect and all, but let's not pretend it's Dostoevsky here.
Which is really unfortunate, because this shallow formula fails time after time. A story that engages in some philosophical or psychological tensionat its core but with scads of action on the side is much more likely to stand the test of time.
#769
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:34
Well, at least that would be something new.xxs4r4xx wrote...
Hmm maybe.... when the DVD comes out and you watch it... the choices menu will pop up on screen and you can select it with your remote controller.Win.
YEEEAHFutureBoy81 wrote...
HERETICS HERETICS GET THE PITCH FORK AND TORCHES HON [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]
Modifié par shajs, 25 mai 2010 - 11:38 .
#770
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:34
Shepard is custom, always different. But the rest of the crew ( Normandy crew) already have their faces and voices. That will be very difficult to change this, don't you think?
#771
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:35
I'm looking forward to this movie, but man if there was ever an opportunity for disaster it is this one. You guys should really get Drew involved (if not already?) as he seems to have laid the foundation for much of the lore via the novels. Also, don't shun the community... even though there are many different opinions, there is likely some consensus on what we don't want to see happen. Don't shy away from getting us involved, even if in relatively insignificant ways.
Wow... I personally don't remember the last time I was as excited and terrified at the prospects of a film. Heavy risk... but the *ducks chairs*.
Modifié par InfiniteCuts, 25 mai 2010 - 11:35 .
#772
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:36
Mass Effect truly disserves to be seen on the screen, people who havent played the games sure miss a good story. Mass Effect is like reading a good book in my point view.
And with Hudson & Co with theyre fingers involved makes feel comfortable that this will be a good movie.
Ps. I know you have great music already Bioware, but please Let Hans Zimmer be with you in some of the soundtrack for more epicness! ds.
#773
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:37
Grim_Phandango wrote...
... Mass Effect is a decently written space opera that is about as deep as a Star Wars film. Those a fine films, ones I truly love, but they are not about anything more than the monomyth, and any attempts to add greater depth have been either bad or so far removed from the source as to unrecognizable outside of the prescence of Lightsabers and Jedi.
As to the romance and drama of Mass Effect, I would argue that the plot is more about human exceptionalism, but this isn't the time or place for that.
Yes, but Star Wars is already deeper than any game to movie adaptation that I can think of.
BTW, Grim Fandango ruled. RIP Lucasarts...
#774
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:38
#775
Posté 25 mai 2010 - 11:39
The movie HAS to be based Before the first game. It would be completely idiotic to make a movie based on the 1st and 2nd games and even dumber for to be based after the 2nd game.
The first Contact War is the best choice for the movie.





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