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[SpiderFan1217]

davidt0504 wrote...

just please don't ruin the games by picking a canon story for shepard. Make the movies about some story thats not the same as main games. Don't ruin my shepards story by making a canon story because to me my shepard is canon.

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Movie Shepard wouldn't be canon. He would be movieShep. I want a movie based on ME1. Hell, go ahead a give me the triligy. (As long as it doesn't suck.)

[THX-1137]

I would hope that it follows the plot of the videogames closely, but I would be fooling myself to think that it could happen as a trilogy. It is an incredibly successful videogame, but I'm not convinced that the producers and others in the general public (e.g. those who don't know what Mass Effect is or haven't/won't play the game) will go for a whole trilogy, which is what this amazing story deserves.



Regardless of how they chose to combine or alter the plotlines from the videogames, I truly hope that they will keep all of the original voice actors to play the actual parts in the movies (especially Brandon Keener as Garrus and Yvonne Strahovski as Miranda - please FSM, let Miranda be in the movie).

[Eternal Density]

Cerberus_Avenger wrote...

heh, i think they should probably make the intro lengthy like the beginning of WATCHMEN
and ETHERAL DENSITY?

you put alot of thought into this, and if i was in front of you right now, i would happily shake your hand on everything you've said.
I do hope they do a great job with the intro to mass effect....like just put majority of certain history parts in like they did with WATCHMEN

Thanks, I've thought about it quite a bit (because I wrote a post about this on the Gateworld forum earlier).  If you want to thank me properly, spell my name right

Some further thoughts:
They could solve a lot of problems by using Ugly Shepard.
(just kidding)

Mass Effect is already a 'movie that you can play', which I hope means that it will be very suitable for translation into cinematic format.  It could mean that to do so would just be redundant and would mess it up, but I'm hoping not.
Some things that they'd better not do:
1. Don't play around with the characteristics of the alien races.  They're fine how they are, and changing them would be pointless and confusing.  The same goes for renaming characters or overly changing their appearance or speech.  I have the feeling they'll mess up a couple of things that will get us fans mad though.
2. Don't mess up the ratios of combat, exposition, and characterisation.  We don't want a big long explode-fest that lacks a convincing throughtful plot, nor do we want wooden underdeveloped characters running around, but we don't want it to be a soap opera or drama set in space with a little bit of action at the beginning at the end.  I'm not too worried about a lack of action and I'm hopeful that they'll develop the plot seriously.  As for the characters I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the squad ran out of time for character development/definition, but I really hope that doesn't happen.  (On that note: I loved Iron Man 2 but felt that not quite enough time was left for the characters to be fully built up)
3. Avoid either not enough humour, making it deadly serious all the time without any relief, or conversely too much (or inappropriate) humour making it a comedy or impossible to take seriously.  I expect they'll find a fairly ok balance in this regard and even make some new meme-spawning iconic jokes.
4. One of my worst fears is that they'll completely rewrite everything so it only has a general resemblance to the universe we know and love.  I strongly hope they take full advantage of all the worldbuilding Bioware have done!
5. It would bug me if they chose to change or tone down some aspect of a character or plot point because of some fear that it might have some parallel meaning to present day events that upsets someone.  (For instance, deciding to drop the Quarian Pilgrimage concept because of the totally unrelated Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca - bad example but the first thing I thought of.)  On a similar note, don't change the colour of Asari just because Avatar had blue aliens.  Seriously,  we can tell the difference!  On that note, making Asari look more inhuman would also be a Bad Thing.  There's enough inhuman looking aliens already.  And we can cope with portrayal of racist behaviours (and discrimination of beings wearing environmental suits) - yes, we know it's wrong - but don't overdo it either - we know it's wrong without being told a dozen times.
6. Anvil Dropping.  Seriously, we don't need to be told that imperialism is bad or environmentalism is good, or recycling is good, or racism is bad, or 'be yourself', or 'the power of friendship!', or 'teamwork with aliens is good', or 'worshiping machines is bad', or 'drugs are bad', or 'taking kids from their families and training them to be supersoldiers is bad' or suchlike, we already know and we've been told a hundred times.  Sure, you can portray some of these points implicitly but you don't need to make a big point of it.  If you want to send a message to viewers, make it something a bit more interesting and original.
7. The characters find and use varying equipment in the game so do this in the movie too: don't have each character keep using a single weapon the whole time or a single move or ability.  Have some variety, but don't make it completely thoughtless either: show some decent tactics and planning.  Show characters replacing weapons in the background without drawing attention to it or wasting valuable time: let us spot those little details by rewatching it a few times.
8. Don't have all the characters work together happily and be superoverpowered from the start.  There should be plenty of racial tension, issues due to people being new to the ship/team/job and not having worked together before.
9. Just because the game as a two squad members per mission limit doesn't mean this has to apply to the movie.  But it doesn't mean everyone needs to tag around with Shepard full time either: they can split up into separate squads (make Garrus lead one as he's supposed to be a squad leadery person) and some may have to recover from injuries incurred.
10. We have medi-gel, so make them need it!  Don't make the fights too easy, and show how draining on team Shepard it is to barely live through each mission.
11. Don't completely cut out any major missions.  Instead cut out the boring bits (but don't take too much).   Sure, a lot of messing around on Feros (Zhu's Hope sidequests) can be cut out, or shortened/implied, a good bit of Noveria can be cut down (I had to do so much walking back and forth and going up and down elevators to get access to the garage.  This can be covered a lot quicker, but there should still be something standing in the way), and when finding Liara most of the driving is pretty uneventful and can be made into a frantic dash through the Geth with some tense conversation in lulls.  Remember, as this isn't a game we don't need 100% completion, so they don't need to stick around and kill every single thing when they're trying to hunt down Saren as quickly as possible.  And a lot of the reason the game takes so long is because you have to walk from place to place, figure out where you're going and what to do, then realise you went the wrong way, etc... and even when you know exactly what to do, there's a lot of time spent going from point A to point B that wouldn't make it into a movie.
12. Having a love interest will have too much fan backlash from those who ship differently.  Plus when they do ME2 and certain squad members abandon you it won't work so well if one was a LI.  (I'm biased because I didn't romance anyone in ME )
13. Quarian masks must stay on.  See: fan backlash
14. Quarian masks must come off for the same reason.
15. I was totally kidding in 14.
16. Wrex must live because he's so much better than that other guy in ME2 and we MUST have the iconic "Shepard" "Wrex" moment.  Someday.
17. Have lots of interesting background conversations to catch, during the limited times when the characters are shown walking from point A to point B, and at least 1 elevator conversation (preferably about Tali's immune system, just because).

and now that I've transitions from "things that could go wrong" to "stuff I want to see" I'd better stop rambling

I think that's enough rambling from me for now.
[edit] or not
18. Don't make Shepard have both biotics and tech powers on top of using a lot of guns.  We don't need the hero to do everything, that's why he has a team.
19. Yvonne Strahovski as Miranda in the sequel.  A definite must.  (But 'genetic perfection' should not equal 'painted on costume' etc)
20. Kanye West as Jacob.
21. Totally kidding, drop Jacob completely.
22. Yes, I'm still kidding, mostly.  Just make Jacob better.
23. David Caruso as Thane
24. Totally kidding still.
25. There must be Elcor Hamlet and Blasto references.

Modifié par Eternal Density, 26 mai 2010 - 05:31 .

[BlindBay7]

davidt0504 wrote...

just please don't ruin the games by picking a canon story for shepard. Make the movies about some story thats not the same as main games. Don't ruin my shepards story by making a canon story because to me my shepard is canon.

Excited but at the same time nervous...there's no way to please everyone because of the many different ways Shep could be developed whether it be gender or in-game choices.  I really think it would be better to not to focus the movie on Shepard...some alternate story that helps explain the world of Mass Effect.  I'm just afraid the movie may detract from the games if it's not as great as everyone expects.

[Stofsk]

THX-1137 wrote...

I would hope that it follows the plot of the videogames closely, but I would be fooling myself to think that it could happen as a trilogy. It is an incredibly successful videogame, but I'm not convinced that the producers and others in the general public (e.g. those who don't know what Mass Effect is or haven't/won't play the game) will go for a whole trilogy, which is what this amazing story deserves.

Regardless of how they chose to combine or alter the plotlines from the videogames, I truly hope that they will keep all of the original voice actors to play the actual parts in the movies (especially Brandon Keener as Garrus and Yvonne Strahovski as Miranda - please FSM, let Miranda be in the movie).

They don't need to plan for a trilogy straight off the bat, but they will almost certainly have it in mind. For instance, whoever they get to play Shepherd will 100% be guaranteed sign up for a three-film deal, his agent will make sure of it, even though only one film would be produced (think Tobey Maguire signing up to do three Spider-man films even before the first one was released). The next two will depend on the quality and success of the first.

[Romantiq]

Shepard won't even be in the movie. It would be stupid and they know better.

[Separd's Hit]

Mark Vanderloo

[BlindBay7]

Romantiq wrote...

Shepard won't even be in the movie. It would be stupid and they know better.

I hope they realize this

[Romantiq]

The story of Shepard is one the one we players create. His character will not in any way be affected by a movie.

[CylonKnight]

 HELL YEAH!

Please just dont let Uwe Boll get any near of this production. Shoot him on sight.

I think they should keep the ME1 plot and end with a mayor cliffhanger with Shepard's death at the beginning of ME2. that will made a great movie with sequel potential.

Remember gamers that already know this story are few compared with the ppl that a movie can reach, so I rather to see a story I already played so no surprises rather than risk to let a writer rewrite all and make a not so good new story.

Modifié par CylonKnight, 26 mai 2010 - 05:45 .

[puckettmeister]

today is the happiest day of my LIFE!! Mario galaxy 2 and now THIS!! AWESOME!!!!

[Eternal Density]

Jennifer Garner as Ash? Hmm, potential. Alias FTW.


I've also got this crazy idea of them doing two versions of the same movie with completely opposite Shepards: Paragon Male Soldier and Renegade Female Biotic. I wonder if they could get people to see both. (The one thing the have in common? Kaidan dies.) Yeah it'll never happen.

Shepard will definitely be in the movie. It would be stupid to ignore the potential.

Another thing they'd better not do is to make Tali's leg joints work like humans'.

Also, while they better put plenty of $ in the the effects (or I will be disappoint) it had better not be a 'the graphics were groundbreaking and SWEET but the rest of it was debatable' kind of movie. (Though biotic combat might turn out well in 3D...?)

[edit] I hope players realise that the movie is not meant to step on their toes: just because it's movie canon does not mean your own game choices are made less valid.

Modifié par Eternal Density, 26 mai 2010 - 05:43 .

[TwitchyVader23]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Eyesofjon wrote...

If Keanu Reeves Is Shepard, I will cry.

Why not? What about Christian Bale or Tom Cruise, or even Brad Pitt (haven't seen him do a sci fi space movie yet)?

Actually, I would much prefer that they find some as-of-yet unknown actor to play the part.  If a big-name actor did it, mainstream audiences would expect a certain character, personality, vibe, etc. from the character, which I see as a negative thing.  I would rather that it be a totally new actor (like they did with Apocalypto, however you may view that movie) - although if Miranda is in it, then they BETTER get Yvonne Strahovski.  No one else can be in THAT role, and she's still relatively unknown - for now.

And speaking of Miranda, I think it would be a lot of fun if they made her the main character, and talked about her time before and after she joined Cerberus.  Do a little bit about her escaping from her dad, explaining that, and then go on to chronicle her joining up with the organization, meeting Jacob, etc.  I personally think that would totally be a WIN.  They could even give us some more background info on the Illusive Man, and perhaps sneak in a tiny cameo of Shepard at the end of the game :happy: like a side reference or hint or something.

As for whether Shepard should be in the film prominently, I'm a little unsure.  I just can't imagine anyone other than my default Shepard voiced by Mark Meer as the character (even if I find his voice annoying at times), and to have someone completely different would just feel weird - plus, there's my idea about the main plot.  On the other hand, like DreamersImperial said:

DreamersImperial wrote...

I kinda think Shepard SHOULD be in it...I mean, this movie will introduce Mass Effect to tons of people that don't play video games, or don't have a 360 (or decent enough PC) with which they can experience the games. And Shepard is the main character. It'd be weird to see him left out. But like I said, this movie should wait until Mass Effect 3 comes out, that way, assuming Shepard survives THAT one, they can pick up from there.

...I kinda agree with that as well.  Anyway, those are my thoughts on the matter.

[blueskymaller]

Great, now what will it be about? the first story? Something that resembles the original? Or with this be a flop with ashley williams as a missing wife. Garrus and wrex as excops who have no rules. And shepard making crazy random good evil choices like we did in the game.

[Eternal Density]

Having a talented unknown play Shepard sounds wise.
And they'd better make it 3 hours (4.5 extended edition) or make it have Part 1 and Part 2 of 2 hours each that are released a month or so apart. (yeah, so not gonna happen)
[edit] but seriously, what's stopping them from making it the scifi version of the LotR films?  (not in plot terms at all, I mean for being an epic long blockbuster trilogy - because they have to do ME3 and by the time ME2 is a movie ME3 better be out)

If they don't market it as a videogame adaptation, that might help...

Modifié par Eternal Density, 26 mai 2010 - 05:54 .

[Scalpels]

Would like to give voice. Definitely against retelling ME1 or ME2. Leave Shepard out of movie. Instead focus on Relay 314 incident. Good introduction for audiences into ME 'verse.



Could use Mars discovery for opening credits. Good way to introduce Jon Grissom. Lead into first novel. Then Mass Effect game.



Would make special effects budget slightly smaller. Only worry about Turians (makeup/CGI/Both) Smaller story allow for tighter screenplay.



Two large space battles. The first showing defeat/subjugation of humans. Second is relief. Possibility for ground battles. Big reveal of Turians.



Ending could give glimpse of larger universe with council intervention in war.

[HTTP 404]

cool but I am afraid of how it will turn out. I really like mass effect universe I would hate for it to be ruined by a movie. Also I will try not to think about any speculation like how many of the characters will make a movie cut? shepard probably looking like mark vanderloo (and male), who the LI would be, whether shepard will be renegade or paragon or both, who survives virmire, and if there will even be a virmire! too much variables (I sound like Mordin!)

[Eternal Density]

Yeah, Scalpels, maybe doing a prequel first covering the Relay 314 incident is the way to go. Plenty of great material that can make an epic movie without being quite as big a budget as doing ME1. And then they can learn from that experience and do the game trilogy, rather than having ME1 be subpar and the later 2 be better. Best to get all the technology working properly before starting the trilogy.

[ivelios]

i think Mass effect 3 will be out before the movie (and i hope it goes that way) The guy that play Avatar (don't remember his name) have the shape to play as shepard by the way



Well i have to say it here as i did in facebook, Legendary picture need to take the time and the energy to make that movie one of the best they could do, they need good special effect, they need a super storyline, we need emotion in this movie. And we need to see every alien we got in the game even if they are only on the background. (remember star wars ?)



Imagine Normandy spaceship with a crew like in the mass effect 2 that fight to save our galaxy

I CAN'T WAIT !!!!!!

[Tennyochan]

if they do have Shepard in the movie they'd have to make him a charismatic/likable lead.

i mean in game we love Shepard's character because we chose his/her dialgoue and play that character. movies are a bit different.

[CCfreak]

I just hope that it wont suck like other video game movies. But the executive producers worked on the game so that's got to be good right?

[Ausstig]

I'm excited, but cautious. Hopefully good

[GoCavs71]

Great... Another franchise ruined. I can't wait to see what they do to Mass Effect when they destroy it in Hollywood. People just cant leave well enough alone. How can you possibly condense a 40+ hour experience into a 2 hour movie? You can't.



The ME lore is so rich and deep I would hate for it to be dumbed down to fit the typical Summer Blockbuster audience. That said, if they are dead set on making a movie I really don't think it can have Shepard in it. Shepard is different for everyone who played the game and there is really no way to portray him/her in a movie.



There is a wealth of other stuff out there to draw from so I hope they do that. They should either set it before ME1 or after ME2. As far as CG and all that they should dig deep for the effects but despite all the combat and everything in the games it's still more of a story than anything and that's how they should approach the movie. To turn perhaps the greatest achievement in interactive story telling into a 2 hour summer shoot 'em up would be the worst thing to happen since Uwe Boll.



Also in the movie, no thermal clips. I still just think that was such a cheap cop out to the weapons system. I personally really liked the overheat system. Don't get me started on the inventory and gear. If things keep going we are gonna see Gears Effect 3 here pretty soon



In all seriousness, they could do something good here. History, however, has shown that games based on movies suck. Movies based on games such hard. We all remember Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Doom, The Wizard. Dare I say the most atrocious cannibalization of a beloved gaming franchise? No... no it is too painful.



So they could do something good, but probably wont.