Here's another wacky idea: they choose the story and character to base their plot upon by playing Mass Effect and randomly selecting each choice. So we have equal chance of anything.
(It would be sensible to roll for renegade/paragon and then strongly bias the dice in that direction thereafter so we don't get a totally random paragade. Also maybe don't leave every single decision up to chance, just the important stuff)
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#1027
Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:12
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Haha there's always room for wishful thinkingEternal Density wrote...
And they'd better make it 3 hours (4.5 extended edition) or make it have Part 1 and Part 2 of 2 hours each that are released a month or so apart. (yeah, so not gonna happen)
and they can always do the LOTR thing and release extended versions. Those are the only LOTR DVDs I bought.ABSOLUTELY. Or if they can't avoid the "adaptation" moniker, than downplay it as much as possible. In my opinion, there still hasn't been a truly decent video game-movie adaptation (hopefully ME will change thatEternal Density wrote...
If they don't market it as a videogame adaptation, that might help...
, still waiting for Prince of Persia - which I truly hope will be good), and the general public that hasn't been exposed to the (generally) awesome games those films are based on have been given a bad impression of what to expect from said adaptations. That said, I definitely think that they should leave the "BASED ON THE BESTSELLING AND CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED VIDEO GAME" thing out of it. Us gamers who play the ME games KNOW how awesome the story is and fully realize the potential that this film has in the right hands, so we'll go to see it. If the director(s) and producers, etc. do the job right and make it (and present it as) a genuinely good sci-fi film, then more people will come to see it in addition to us fanboys .I have very high hopes for this movie myself. I'll be VERY disappointed if they crock it up, so what we need is a LOT of Bioware communication with the director and production team in order to make sure it retains the magic of the games.
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:15
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chormic93 wrote...
This is commander Shepard and this is my favourite movie on the citadel...
...Nice. YES! A MASS EFFECT MOVIE! Soooo stoked!
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:17
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Eternal Density wrote...
Here's another wacky idea: they choose the story and character to base their plot upon by playing Mass Effect and randomly selecting each choice. So we have equal chance of anything.
(It would be sensible to roll for renegade/paragon and then strongly bias the dice in that direction thereafter so we don't get a totally random paragade. Also maybe don't leave every single decision up to chance, just the important stuff)
*Snort* Paragade. Why not a Renegon?
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:19
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ZehnWaters wrote...
*Snort* Paragade. Why not a Renegon?
Renegons are gross!
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:21
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@Scalpels, Eternal Density: This idea has been put out several times in this thread... but where is the drama? There's no single big evil protagonist, no single goal of the conflict... won't make blockbuster fodder (which is not to say it's a bad idea, but rather that it's quite noncommercial). Anderson vs Saren also is a good story, but... unsatisfying ending. A downer, with Anderson not making Spectre. ME1 plot makes much more sense for a movie (protagonist and antagonist, a few plot twists, good amount of action and drama, and a satisfying conclusion that stands on its own but also still leaves room for sequels). I was against it this morning but the more you think about it, the more compelling it becomes. With respect, our Shepards look different (and shacked up with different people) but they all still saved the universe...
@CCFreak: not necessarily unfortunately I think Exec. Prod. role in movie varies greatly, often not very significant. But I hope that Legendary sees that Bioware would be useful allies.
@CCFreak: not necessarily unfortunately I think Exec. Prod. role in movie varies greatly, often not very significant. But I hope that Legendary sees that Bioware would be useful allies.
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:23
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This is Perfect! You did not waste10 minutes, I dont know what other people are thinking but Matthew Fox fits John Shepard for sure, end of story no questions asked!xensung wrote...
Maybe I wasted 10 minutes lol but.... Matthew Fox...
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:24
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I think its ment to be a "blockbuster" mainstream pulp. Nothing good comes out of that formulae.
There is a thought deep inside my head that movie industry lost the ability to make good sci-fi movies. Last one I really liked was District 9. And it was good probably because P.J. pissed with warm urine on hollywood and their practices
...seriously, when's the last time you've seen a sci-fi flick that carried weight?
But if they are going for money to fund other projects, go ahead, but dont expect me to jump from joy
There is a thought deep inside my head that movie industry lost the ability to make good sci-fi movies. Last one I really liked was District 9. And it was good probably because P.J. pissed with warm urine on hollywood and their practices
...seriously, when's the last time you've seen a sci-fi flick that carried weight?
But if they are going for money to fund other projects, go ahead, but dont expect me to jump from joy
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:25
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iisan7 wrote...
@Scalpels, Eternal Density: This idea has been put out several times in this thread... but where is the drama? There's no single big evil protagonist, no single goal of the conflict... won't make blockbuster fodder (which is not to say it's a bad idea, but rather that it's quite noncommercial). Anderson vs Saren also is a good story, but... unsatisfying ending. A downer, with Anderson not making Spectre. ME1 plot makes much more sense for a movie (protagonist and antagonist, a few plot twists, good amount of action and drama, and a satisfying conclusion that stands on its own but also still leaves room for sequels). I was against it this morning but the more you think about it, the more compelling it becomes. With respect, our Shepards look different (and shacked up with different people) but they all still saved the universe...
*Applauds*
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:25
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If this turns out to be a total flop, I'm leading the efforts to build a machine to transport us into the alternate universe in which it became the 'Star Wars of our generation' (the original series, duh), but I hope the powers that be save us that expense.
If they take great care and think through all their decisions, they might just pull this off. If they make the mistake of using the games as an advertising drawcard, they've blown it. (Seriously, people who know about the game are not going to miss noticing the movie, while people who don't know will far more likely be turned away by that knowledge).
I do have a fear that this will be an immensely successful critically acclaimed blockbuster that everyone in the world loves... except the fans of the games.
I have another fear they they'll try to make too many people happy and that will kill it.
Please don't fail!
This movie is a big risk...
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If all else fails, I'll just imagine that an epic ME movie was made and move on. I hope I don't have to.
If they take great care and think through all their decisions, they might just pull this off. If they make the mistake of using the games as an advertising drawcard, they've blown it. (Seriously, people who know about the game are not going to miss noticing the movie, while people who don't know will far more likely be turned away by that knowledge).
I do have a fear that this will be an immensely successful critically acclaimed blockbuster that everyone in the world loves... except the fans of the games.
I have another fear they they'll try to make too many people happy and that will kill it.
Please don't fail!
This movie is a big risk...
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Good point, the downer ending and lack of main protagonist and goal would work against the First Contact War, as cool as it might be. Which is okay if it means I get an epic ME movie sooner. And not ok if I get a lame ME movie sooner that could have been better. *sigh*ZehnWaters wrote...
iisan7 wrote...
@Scalpels, Eternal Density: This idea has been put out several times in this thread... but where is the drama? There's no single big evil protagonist, no single goal of the conflict... won't make blockbuster fodder (which is not to say it's a bad idea, but rather that it's quite noncommercial). Anderson vs Saren also is a good story, but... unsatisfying ending. A downer, with Anderson not making Spectre. ME1 plot makes much more sense for a movie (protagonist and antagonist, a few plot twists, good amount of action and drama, and a satisfying conclusion that stands on its own but also still leaves room for sequels). I was against it this morning but the more you think about it, the more compelling it becomes. With respect, our Shepards look different (and shacked up with different people) but they all still saved the universe...
*Applauds*
If all else fails, I'll just imagine that an epic ME movie was made and move on. I hope I don't have to.
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:31
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iisan7 wrote...
@Scalpels, Eternal Density: This idea has been put out several times in this thread... but where is the drama? There's no single big evil protagonist, no single goal of the conflict... won't make blockbuster fodder (which is not to say it's a bad idea, but rather that it's quite noncommercial). Anderson vs Saren also is a good story, but... unsatisfying ending. A downer, with Anderson not making Spectre. ME1 plot makes much more sense for a movie (protagonist and antagonist, a few plot twists, good amount of action and drama, and a satisfying conclusion that stands on its own but also still leaves room for sequels). I was against it this morning but the more you think about it, the more compelling it becomes. With respect, our Shepards look different (and shacked up with different people) but they all still saved the universe...
@CCFreak: not necessarily unfortunately I think Exec. Prod. role in movie varies greatly, often not very significant. But I hope that Legendary sees that Bioware would be useful allies.
Drama is in seeing human first contact end in disaster. Unkonwn, unknowable race of aliens conquer human colony. Unknown if advanced species is possible to be defeated. Goal is to relieve colony.
Antagonist is Turian admiral. Possibly Saren's brother. Could be brutal efficiency runs in family. Protagonist is a younger Jon Grissom. Add Hollywood required Damsel in Distress™ who could then be Kahlee Sanders' mother.
Could be commercially viable. Also would avoid inevitable fanbase backlash when canon Shepard is too paragon/renegade and/or did not choose preferred love interest. Would also avoid "The Quarian Question."
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:35
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John Ryhs Meyers from the Tudors should play Shepard! He looks like him and would be perfect for the part, but......... I hope John doesnt get drunk and throw racial slurs at the Krogan actors...that would be bad!
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:36
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True, it could work. Sorry for doubtingScalpels wrote...
iisan7 wrote...
@Scalpels, Eternal Density: This idea has been put out several times in this thread... but where is the drama? There's no single big evil protagonist, no single goal of the conflict... won't make blockbuster fodder (which is not to say it's a bad idea, but rather that it's quite noncommercial). Anderson vs Saren also is a good story, but... unsatisfying ending. A downer, with Anderson not making Spectre. ME1 plot makes much more sense for a movie (protagonist and antagonist, a few plot twists, good amount of action and drama, and a satisfying conclusion that stands on its own but also still leaves room for sequels). I was against it this morning but the more you think about it, the more compelling it becomes. With respect, our Shepards look different (and shacked up with different people) but they all still saved the universe...
@CCFreak: not necessarily unfortunately I think Exec. Prod. role in movie varies greatly, often not very significant. But I hope that Legendary sees that Bioware would be useful allies.
Drama is in seeing human first contact end in disaster. Unkonwn, unknowable race of aliens conquer human colony. Unknown if advanced species is possible to be defeated. Goal is to relieve colony.
Antagonist is Turian admiral. Possibly Saren's brother. Could be brutal efficiency runs in family. Protagonist is a younger Jon Grissom. Add Hollywood required Damsel in Distress™ who could then be Kahlee Sanders' mother.
Could be commercially viable. Also would avoid inevitable fanbase backlash when canon Shepard is too paragon/renegade and/or did not choose preferred love interest. Would also avoid "The Quarian Question."
But I don't think they'll do it, due to the "More importantly, though, they created a parable whose conflicts mirror the ones we currently face in our own world. This story emphasizes the need for all cultures to learn to work together." quote, that sounds like a feature of the games.
Actually it sounds like the "different cultures working together" anvil is going to be dropped, I hope not too hard.
On that note, the writers should study TVTropes before putting pen to paper, to avoid the worse of the pitfalls.
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:47
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This is not a good idea, and I say this as someone who unreservedly loves both ME1 and 2.
For one, video game movies suck. (It's true because this page says so). But the main problem, as I see it, is that even if they manage to make a decent movie out of the source material (which I feel they have a good chance of doing), for a lot of us, it's going to feel like watching someone else's playthrough. Players like me, who prefer Hale's voice acting to Meer's will be left out in the cold, since the protagonist will inevitably be based on the default male model. And then there's player's choice, which in a linear medium, like film, goes right out the window. Let's say you lean towards renegade actions, but the film's version of Shepard is clearly slanted towards paragon ones, or vice versa. Where's the fun in seeing that?
And then there's the question of what to put in versus what to leave out. I can't imagine them trying to shove the whole thing into a 2-3 hour film. A lot of the side material will have to be cut. Of course, the main plotline will be in there, but again, much of the nuance of the story will fall by the wayside, by necessity.
My point is, Mass Effect should not be a movie, because that would drain it of its strenghts (choice and interactivity) and leave us with a single, unchanging version of the story it presents. Films have their strengths as a medium, but they have severe limitations as well, and they'll show in any attempt to bring something like this to the big screen.
I do wish Bioware luck in their endeavour, but I still say it's a bad idea. Mass Effect plays to the strengths of its native medium, and that's a large part of what makes it special. Change the medium, and it loses much of its appeal in the process.
For one, video game movies suck. (It's true because this page says so). But the main problem, as I see it, is that even if they manage to make a decent movie out of the source material (which I feel they have a good chance of doing), for a lot of us, it's going to feel like watching someone else's playthrough. Players like me, who prefer Hale's voice acting to Meer's will be left out in the cold, since the protagonist will inevitably be based on the default male model. And then there's player's choice, which in a linear medium, like film, goes right out the window. Let's say you lean towards renegade actions, but the film's version of Shepard is clearly slanted towards paragon ones, or vice versa. Where's the fun in seeing that?
And then there's the question of what to put in versus what to leave out. I can't imagine them trying to shove the whole thing into a 2-3 hour film. A lot of the side material will have to be cut. Of course, the main plotline will be in there, but again, much of the nuance of the story will fall by the wayside, by necessity.
My point is, Mass Effect should not be a movie, because that would drain it of its strenghts (choice and interactivity) and leave us with a single, unchanging version of the story it presents. Films have their strengths as a medium, but they have severe limitations as well, and they'll show in any attempt to bring something like this to the big screen.
I do wish Bioware luck in their endeavour, but I still say it's a bad idea. Mass Effect plays to the strengths of its native medium, and that's a large part of what makes it special. Change the medium, and it loses much of its appeal in the process.
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:47
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I'm Commander shepard and I'm mad because most of you don't want me in the Mass Effect Movie...
Matthew Fox as Commander Shepard!!! Everyone check this out, it has potential cast for the Mass Effect movie ----> http://blogs.myspace...id_translations
Matthew Fox as Commander Shepard!!! Everyone check this out, it has potential cast for the Mass Effect movie ----> http://blogs.myspace...id_translations
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:53
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agree with that it shouldn't contain the game story... and i can't really be a sequel to ME3 too because the ending of that game is (hopefully) not fixed. But maybe it should contain some of the chars from the game (maybe the story of what they all did in the two years shep was dead)
#1043
Posté 26 mai 2010 - 06:59
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I think they need a lot of money to create all the aliens. Looking foreward to it!
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 07:03
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My hope: in a few years time putting 'Mass Effect 1' in the movies category on that page, accompanied by the words 'brutally averted'.QuantumSponge wrote...
This is not a good idea, and I say this as someone who unreservedly loves both ME1 and 2.
For one, video game movies suck. (It's true because this page says so).
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 07:04
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This looks really cool. Most games have a canon character anyway ( light sided male in KOTOR, Light sided female in KOTOR II) I think this is a great movie to make.
Hopefully Seth Green is up to act for this movie, wouldn't be 80% as good with any other actor.
Hopefully Seth Green is up to act for this movie, wouldn't be 80% as good with any other actor.
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 07:05
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I totally agree with this one seeing that everyone else does not want it to be the main story, but they maybe can add a few other things we did not see in the game tying in the main story line.xensung wrote...
Most game movies don't stick to the story and have an awful director... Why not keep the story but bring in a good director. Wouldn't hurt if the director was a fan.
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#1047
Posté 26 mai 2010 - 07:06
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Why would you need a movie for Mass Effect? That's like making a movie out of Heavy Rain.
Also Mass Effect has a really bad story. It's the combat and the characters that make Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 so awesome.
Also Mass Effect has a really bad story. It's the combat and the characters that make Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 so awesome.
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Posté 26 mai 2010 - 07:08
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Matthew Fox is a dead ringer. He'd need to soldier up for it though.
#1049
Posté 26 mai 2010 - 07:11
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imo its should be about anderson i wanna know the story about him almost becomeing the firste spectra
#1050
Posté 26 mai 2010 - 07:12
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Most people remain skeptical about how this movie will turn out
If the Prince of Persia movie is successful it may help the general public realize that video games can be made into good films
Personally I am very excited, the game had some great writing and it is the perfect jumping off point for a film
but if I were to make a suggestion, don't even try to simulate the decision aspect of the game just decided what kind of person you want Shepard to be and stick with it
Also Marina Sirtis, Keith David and Seth Green are the three actors I would most like to see repeat their roles from the video game in the film
If the Prince of Persia movie is successful it may help the general public realize that video games can be made into good films
Personally I am very excited, the game had some great writing and it is the perfect jumping off point for a film
but if I were to make a suggestion, don't even try to simulate the decision aspect of the game just decided what kind of person you want Shepard to be and stick with it
Also Marina Sirtis, Keith David and Seth Green are the three actors I would most like to see repeat their roles from the video game in the film
