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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

That´s actually one of the things about her character that I like. She takes action when it is necessary in her opinion and doesn´t wait around until someone tells her what to do. I can´t imagine one of the other ME1 squadmates to kill Wrex in that situation without being given the order by Shep.
We as the players know the situation can be defused by carefully choosing certain dialogue options, but I can totally understand her for making a decision she feels is right.


Exactly - one of the things that I liked most was that Ashely was willing to stand down a Krogan to ensure Shepard's safety.  I'm not sure how many other people would have done that.  It really reinforced that she had his back.

Also, there are a lot of us in the off-topic thread right now, if you want to join in.  The link's in the OP if you don't have it.

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Well! This thread moves fast already! :) Hey gang.



I think Ash isn't anti-social at all. In fact I think she's relatively outgoing and jokey and friendly. She tends to be blunt which around some people might make her put her foot in her mouth, but over all I see her as a gal with a great laugh and a tendency to make friends easily...unless she doesn't like them. haha

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SilverRose208 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

That´s actually one of the things about her character that I like. She takes action when it is necessary in her opinion and doesn´t wait around until someone tells her what to do. I can´t imagine one of the other ME1 squadmates to kill Wrex in that situation without being given the order by Shep.
We as the players know the situation can be defused by carefully choosing certain dialogue options, but I can totally understand her for making a decision she feels is right.


Exactly - one of the things that I liked most was that Ashely was willing to stand down a Krogan to ensure Shepard's safety.  I'm not sure how many other people would have done that.  It really reinforced that she had his back.

Also, there are a lot of us in the off-topic thread right now, if you want to join in.  The link's in the OP if you don't have it.


And, just in case people have forgotten, Shepard himself/herself specifically orders Ash to be ready in case he/she is unable to talk Wrex out it. Shepard's orders.

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I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.

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trobbins777 wrote...

I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.


"I almost got with someone else..." :whistle:

I can't see Ashley committing suicide. Ever. I suppose that doesn't preclude her from ever contemplating it, but... no, she still has, for all practical purposes, the entire Williams family name riding on her. I don't tihnk she would ever consider letting them down in such a fashion.

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trobbins777 wrote...

I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.


I filled in the blank as "almost lost my faith."  I have a hard time thinking that Ash would commit suicide.

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...

I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.



I can't see Ashley committing suicide.


No, but if that is what she meant, that would really go to show you just how much Shepards death tore her up.

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I doubt Ashley would ever commit suicide, we know that she believe's in God, isn't suicide considered a mortal sin? one she would be sent to hell for.



Although Bioware does seem to like leaving a lot of blanks in Ashleys dialogue. Think of Ilos where she goes to tell you something, but then says if you want to here it, you'll need to come back to her.

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_hcope wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...

I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.



I can't see Ashley committing suicide.


No, but if that is what she meant, that would really go to show you just how much Shepards death tore her up.


Very, very true. 
In a lot of ways, the Ash we know & remember from ME1 might not be the same girl anymore.  She says that herself in her letter to Shep.  For all we know, she could've gone into like clinical depression, become an atheist, or anything really.  I hope it's something that gets explored in ME3.

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SilverRose208 wrote...

_hcope wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...

I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.



I can't see Ashley committing suicide.


No, but if that is what she meant, that would really go to show you just how much Shepards death tore her up.


Very, very true. 
In a lot of ways, the Ash we know & remember from ME1 might not be the same girl anymore.  She says that herself in her letter to Shep.  For all we know, she could've gone into like clinical depression, become an atheist, or anything really.  I hope it's something that gets explored in ME3.


:crying: Don't you make me cry, now!

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...

I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.


"I almost got with someone else..." :whistle:

I can't see Ashley committing suicide. Ever. I suppose that doesn't preclude her from ever contemplating it, but... no, she still has, for all practical purposes, the entire Williams family name riding on her. I don't tihnk she would ever consider letting them down in such a fashion.


Maybe she became hopeless from, shepard dead, the reapers coming, and the council taking no action to prepare for them. She could have thought that everyone was screwed anyway. It just seems to fit perfectly. So in ME3 the people who were mad at her will say something akin to

Haters:"Ashley your a (female dog) the first time i see you in two years and you yell at me."

Ashley:"I almost killed myself to be with you."

Haters:"....................Oh my god."

Bioware:"Yeah get mad at her now."B)

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ash would never kill her self.proof other sqaud memeber"he killed hiself beacuz he was part of whatever happned here??" ashley "damn shame god only gives you one life" that was on noveria.

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ash would never kill her self.proof other sqaud memeber"he killed hiself beacuz he was part of whatever happned here??" ashley "damn shame god only gives you one life" that was on noveria.


You sure? that sounds like fai dan on feros.

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trobbins777 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

ash would never kill her self.proof other sqaud memeber"he killed hiself beacuz he was part of whatever happned here??" ashley "damn shame god only gives you one life" that was on noveria.


You sure? that sounds like fai dan on feros.


I can corroborate ashlover's testimony. It is indeed on Noveria. Nothing is said of Fai Dan's suicide.

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trobbins777 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

ash would never kill her self.proof other sqaud memeber"he killed hiself beacuz he was part of whatever happned here??" ashley "damn shame god only gives you one life" that was on noveria.


You sure? that sounds like fai dan on feros.

i am sure,its when you find the dead salarian body and activate his suicide recording .

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SilverRose208 wrote...

_hcope wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...

I've discussed this in ash's forum before, but i don't think many of you have heard it. On horizon Ash says "I thought you were dead. I almost....How could you put me through that?" Now this is just a guess, but it sounds like Ash almost committed suicide after you died. She says "I almost..." right after she says she thought you were dead. It also explains why she is so pissed at you. If the writers didn't include that part deliberately then i hope that they do. It would explain alot.



I can't see Ashley committing suicide.


No, but if that is what she meant, that would really go to show you just how much Shepards death tore her up.


Very, very true. 
In a lot of ways, the Ash we know & remember from ME1 might not be the same girl anymore.  She says that herself in her letter to Shep.  For all we know, she could've gone into like clinical depression, become an atheist, or anything really.  I hope it's something that gets explored in ME3.


Seeing how much Liara has changed, I would hope ashley has changed as well. Within reason. I still think she would keep her beleifs about God and attitude towards aliens. Those were pretty deeply held.

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Seeing how much Liara has changed, I would hope ashley has changed as well. Within reason. I still think she would keep her beleifs about God and attitude towards aliens. Those were pretty deeply held.


Hopefully that is so and Bioware did not actually hit the 'Reset' button as far as her character progression from ME1 is concerned. In this, I will be cautiously optimistic, an experiment for me.

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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

ash would never kill her self.proof other sqaud memeber"he killed hiself beacuz he was part of whatever happned here??" ashley "damn shame god only gives you one life" that was on noveria.


You sure? that sounds like fai dan on feros.

i am sure,its when you find the dead salarian body and activate his suicide recording .

D'oh ninja'd by zuess Image IPB but thnx for haveing ma backImage IPB


How come i've never seen this?:huh:Where in the level is the dead salarian?

Also people change(look at liara). Shepards death could have affected her in any number of ways. Ash reads alot of poetry she could have gotten the idea from it.

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

_hcope wrote...

Seeing how much Liara has changed, I would hope ashley has changed as well. Within reason. I still think she would keep her beleifs about God and attitude towards aliens. Those were pretty deeply held.


Hopefully that is so and Bioware did not actually hit the 'Reset' button as far as her character progression from ME1 is concerned. In this, I will be cautiously optimistic, an experiment for me.


Like my american cousin, I will remain pessimistic about ME3. I will remain that way until I see Ashley as a squad member :lol:

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_hcope wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

_hcope wrote...

Seeing how much Liara has changed, I would hope ashley has changed as well. Within reason. I still think she would keep her beleifs about God and attitude towards aliens. Those were pretty deeply held.


Hopefully that is so and Bioware did not actually hit the 'Reset' button as far as her character progression from ME1 is concerned. In this, I will be cautiously optimistic, an experiment for me.


Like my american cousin, I will remain pessimistic about ME3. I will remain that way until I see Ashley as a squad member :lol:


Agreed.  Ashleys beliefs wer the thing that made her a compelling character and a breath of frsh air from everything else.  If Bioware removed her beliefs...:crying:

Although now that I think about it, what if Ash did lose faith in alot of her core?  It would be cool if we could re-establish her belif in God and the Alliance:wizard:

But something tells me Bioware wont go that route.

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Like my american cousin, I will remain pessimistic about ME3. I will remain that way until I see Ashley as a squad member :lol:

I hope you will be proven wrong, Henry.

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_hcope wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

_hcope wrote...

Seeing how much Liara has changed, I would hope ashley has changed as well. Within reason. I still think she would keep her beleifs about God and attitude towards aliens. Those were pretty deeply held.


Hopefully that is so and Bioware did not actually hit the 'Reset' button as far as her character progression from ME1 is concerned. In this, I will be cautiously optimistic, an experiment for me.


Like my american cousin, I will remain pessimistic about ME3. I will remain that way until I see Ashley as a squad member :lol:


Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

_hcope wrote...
Like my american cousin, I will remain pessimistic about ME3. I will remain that way until I see Ashley as a squad member :lol:

I hope you will be proven wrong, Henry.


Hey, Rune. If you still want to hang out with us off-topic, we're doing the hanging-out here.

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Hey, Rune. If you still want to hang out with us off-topic, we're doing the hanging-out here.

I am all but done with this place. When the opinions of many are silenced due to a few outliers, it is time to move on. I won't spam your thread anymore.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...


Hey, Rune. If you still want to hang out with us off-topic, we're doing the hanging-out here.

I am all but done with this place. When the opinions of many are silenced due to a few outliers, it is time to move on. I won't spam your thread anymore.


Well, I am sorry to hear that.