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[V-rex]

That's kind of my sentiments too, besides as I said before, Ashley seems to be much more pro feminist so it seems unlikely she's even want to get married and that perhaps merely being with the man she loves would be enough without having to feel tied down to him.

Actually that sounds like a good topic... *ahem*

Do you think Ashley is actually the kind of girl who would want to get married at all or do you think she'd be content just being with Shepard and maybe serving alongside him for the rest of her life? Or at least until they both feel they want to retire?

Modifié par V-rex, 01 août 2010 - 05:08 .

[VutaatVerd]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

The way I envision my Shep's final ending, corny enough, is a lot how ME1 and 2 ended. HIm running off to go on his next mission, only this time with Ashley by his side. 

I think I can live with this, as I do not really see Shepard and Ashley getting Married....kids maybe, but Married I don't see it.

[drunken pyromaniac]

I've never been a fan of this idea that marriage is somehow a prison that the evil patriarchy imposes on women. We're not all monsters.
Sooo, I'm going to keep quiet on this.

Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 01 août 2010 - 05:15 .

[V-rex]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

I've never been a fan of this idea that marriage is somehow a prison that the evil patriarchy imposes on women. We're not all evil bastards
Sooo, I'm going to keep quiet on this.

Yeah I know, marriage isn't that bad and speaking as a male I too get kind of annoyed when it is considered a prison towards women.

Still I can't help but see Ashley as the kind of girl who would value her independance or at least wouldn't want to settle down for a long time or until she was good and ready to do so.

EDIT: I just thought I'd point out that I am nineteen so I am not married, but my sister is and she seems to like it just fine, although she still kept her name when she married the guy as she prefers non traditional marriage.

I imagine Ash would be similar.

Modifié par V-rex, 01 août 2010 - 05:17 .

[Matroska]

For me, it's more that marriage is less and less common as time goes on. People marry later, or just don't feel the need to marry at all. It feels jarringly quaint that people (especially people a good number of years away from being married themselves) impose this automatic idea of "GOOD END = MARRIAGE" over a storyline. Especially one set over 150 years into the future. I mean, you also have to put it into context. People were way more religious and socially forced into certain behaviour 150 years ago (1860, just to make it simple) so imagine another 150+ years into the future and add to that the fact that we've met numerous alien races, none of whom really have any similar ideas to our own.



I think that's getting too complicated for purpose, though. So to stay on topic, I think Ash would be like a lot of people now; marriage is a nice gesture but it doesn't take the form of some sort of Mission Complete screen for her. To slightly break the 4th wall here, she does seem to be written pretty anachronistically, especially with her religious beliefs and general 20th century outlook/philosophy, so it really wouldn't surprise me if she was focused on marriage after a while.

[TheBull]

V-rex wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

I've never been a fan of this idea that marriage is somehow a prison that the evil patriarchy imposes on women. We're not all evil bastards
Sooo, I'm going to keep quiet on this.

Yeah I know, marriage isn't that bad and speaking as a male I too get kind of annoyed when it is considered a prison towards women.

Still I can't help but see Ashley as the kind of girl who would value her independance or at least wouldn't want to settle down for a long time or until she was good and ready to do so.

EDIT: I just thought I'd point out that I am nineteen so I am not married, but my sister is and she seems to like it just fine, although she still kept her name when she married the guy as she prefers non traditional marriage.

I imagine Ash would be similar.

I try not to offend any women with this comment...but isn't there a T-shirt for males you can buy where a male and a female couple getting married and under it it says Game Over??!! Just wanted to throw it out there see how the reaction goes:bandit:

Back On topic
yea i would think she would like to settle down but everyone has a different opinion on that so let's see where it goes, but i really don't wanna see a Star wars hero parade, that would be just wrong:?

[Kacynski]

Teclo wrote...

I think that's getting too complicated for purpose, though. So to stay on topic, I think Ash would be like a lot of people now; marriage is a nice gesture but it doesn't take the form of some sort of Mission Complete screen for her. To slightly break the 4th wall here, she does seem to be written pretty anachronistically, especially with her religious beliefs and general 20th century outlook/philosophy, so it really wouldn't surprise me if she was focused on marriage after a while.

I'm not too fond of a marriage ending myself, if it happens (what I doubt), I wouldn't mind so much, but still I would prefer otherwise. Nevertheless what Teclo wrote up there is pretty much my own impression. Ash is drawn as a more traditional kind of people, with her family bonds and her believe in God. As my picture of her goes, I'm pretty sure she would want to marry.

And just to put forth my 2 cts on marriage in general: I was one of the people who claimed marriage was just an outdated fashion and in no way necessary to have a functioning relationship (well, I still think it isn't). But occassionally I met a girl to whom marriage was something special, so we got married - and I was quite astonished how much more depth it gave to our live ... so, to all of you who think it's just a fancy celebration and forced by our conservative society: it's much more if you make something out of it. And to end this Ash-related: I like to imagine, that Ash has the same point of view about it and will talk Shepard into marrying her :happy:

Edit for clarity:
I would more like a non-wedding ending (if its done in a cool way) from a story-telling point of view, speaking as the story "consumer".
I would like a wedding for Ash, speaking as someone who likes her as a character (if she would be a real person).

Modifié par Kacynski, 01 août 2010 - 08:18 .

[Funkcase]

Ash is pretty old fashioned at heart. she values family, i am sure she would like to get married. And if she was to get pregnant i am sure she would'nt want her child being called a b*stard. But i can see her playing hard to get and saying ''no'' to Shepard's proposes a few times.

[Errol Dnamyx]

Funkcase wrote...

Ash is pretty old fashioned at heart. she values family, i am sure she would like to get married. And if she was to get pregnant i am sure she would'nt want her child being called a b*stard. But i can see her playing hard to get and saying ''no'' to Shepard's proposes a few times.

Hmm, I don´t think she´d play hard to get. It´s either a yes or no imo. It would fit her character much better.
And the fact that her parents were married increases the chance that she would want such a form of life for herself.
You know, maybe she is going to propose to Shepard? *gasps* It´s the future after all.

[Funkcase]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Ash is pretty old fashioned at heart. she values family, i am sure she would like to get married. And if she was to get pregnant i am sure she would'nt want her child being called a b*stard. But i can see her playing hard to get and saying ''no'' to Shepard's proposes a few times.

Hmm, I don´t think she´d play hard to get. It´s either a yes or no imo. It would fit her character much better.
And the fact that her parents were married increases the chance that she would want such a form of life for herself.
You know, maybe she is going to propose to Shepard? *gasps* It´s the future after all.

True, and it would fit her character. But the ''yes'' ''no'' could fall under ''A Williams does stuff when there ready, not after, not before'' It depends on how ready she feels about it. Her proposing would be funny, and pretty cute.

[KendallX23]

what's with all the marriage topics ?this is a scifi action rpg/shooter...not a datesim game.....on other more important topics...i do see Ash and SHep getting married...but not within the game...a short story at the end telling us it happeened...

[chem light]

KendallX23 wrote...

what's with all the marriage topics ?this is a scifi action rpg/shooter...not a datesim game.....on other more important topics...i do see Ash and SHep getting married...but not within the game...a short story at the end telling us it happeened...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo.... No freaking story panes.  If it's important enough to include.  It's important enough to do a proper cut scene. 

[Fiannawolf]

Reava Shepard is going to save Ash from Virmire! Woo! Now all I need is to be able to team up with her and Liara in ME2 and the world will right itself.

[epoch_]

chem light wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

what's with all the marriage topics ?this is a scifi action rpg/shooter...not a datesim game.....on other more important topics...i do see Ash and SHep getting married...but not within the game...a short story at the end telling us it happeened...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo.... No freaking story panes.  If it's important enough to include.  It's important enough to do a proper cut scene. 

You'll get your powerpoint epilogue, and you'll be happy dammit.

[chem light]

epoch_ wrote...

chem light wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

what's with all the marriage topics ?this is a scifi action rpg/shooter...not a datesim game.....on other more important topics...i do see Ash and SHep getting married...but not within the game...a short story at the end telling us it happeened...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo.... No freaking story panes.  If it's important enough to include.  It's important enough to do a proper cut scene. 

You'll get your powerpoint epilogue, and you'll be happy dammit.

NO!  No I won't.  I will have a happy ending and it will be animated!

[epoch_]

I suspect shepards a dead man by the end of ME3 anyways, so this is all irrelevant.

[chem light]

epoch_ wrote...

I suspect shepards a dead man by the end of ME3 anyways, so this is all irrelevant.

You are a bad, bad man.  I will march on Canada if there's no happy ending.

[epoch_]

Gah, I'm so damn pessimistic. I really don't want anything to happen the way I think it will yet, I can't see it happening any other way.

[KendallX23]

Shepard sacrifices himself to defeat the reapers...and in the end we find out Ashley is pregnant with his child...

[SilverRose208]

Y'all are so depressing.



Okay, I said it first - I don't think Ash is rushing to get married... I just don't see it. Sure, she values family, but I agree with what a lot of others said about her valuing her independence, and it seems like a lot more of a fuss than anything else. I think they'd be happiest just running off to some far away colony together and living out the rest of their lives - no need for labels or ceremony.

But, above all else, I hope that the ending is open enough so that we can determine our own outcome, be we in the anti- or pro-marriage camp.

[TheBull]

KendallX23 wrote...

Shepard sacrifices himself to defeat the reapers...and in the end we find out Ashley is pregnant with his child...

Strangely enough that sounds plausible but if that really happens i would go apehole.
I also could see a decision like you choose between your LI and the fate of a whole race, as a paragon that could be a very hard decision (like me:bandit:).

[Giggles_Manically]

KendallX23 wrote...

Shepard sacrifices himself to defeat the reapers...and in the end we find out Ashley is pregnant with his child...

So Spock/Data final heroic sacrifice in the name of all that is good and cookies?

[KendallX23]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

Shepard sacrifices himself to defeat the reapers...and in the end we find out Ashley is pregnant with his child...

So Spock/Data final heroic sacrifice in the name of all that is good and cookies?

  i love cookies....just sayin


          

[chem light]

KendallX23 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

Shepard sacrifices himself to defeat the reapers...and in the end we find out Ashley is pregnant with his child...

So Spock/Data final heroic sacrifice in the name of all that is good and cookies?

  i love cookies....just sayin


          

Dude, Spock came back and I'm not too terribley mad about data because one of the things he was upset about on the series is that he'd outlive all of his friends.  But I was sad at his death.  My neural pathways had become accostumed to his sensory input.

But Shep?  Come on!  She's already died once!  What is this?  Farscape?

Happy ending.  I don't care if there's marriage, babies, or they go into buisness as arms manufactures in their retirement.  I just wants friggin' happy ending.  Is that so much to ask?