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[KendallX23]

but rescue him from what ?Shepard has proved he can take on anything...it would need not one but at least 2 reapers to be a problem to him..Ash is good but she is no SHepard......maybe she gets him out of a prison or a stand off with some ships...

[VutaatVerd]

LiamN7 wrote...

Shep didn't defeat anything alone . Me1 shep was a bit more normal. In ME2 his own death didn't even bother him. He acted like super shep. Maybe something as simple as Shep running out of these new fancy heat clips and his gun wont fire. Ash just happens to show up and save the day. I just feel its about time that Ash save shep from certain doom. Instead of the same old thing again. : )

I feel pretty close to this. Only thing is Ash save Shep? Sure love that, or she could save another member of your crew.

[drunken pyromaniac]

LiamN7 wrote...

Shep didn't defeat anything alone . Me1 shep was a bit more normal. In ME2 his own death didn't even bother him. He acted like super shep. Maybe something as simple as Shep running out of these new fancy heat clips and his gun wont fire. Ash just happens to show up and save the day. I just feel its about time that Ash save shep from certain doom. Instead of the same old thing again. : )

I'd love this to happen. I felt disconnected from my Shepard in ME2 on occasion and signs that he is still human and can make mistakes would go a long way towards fixing that rift for me.

[KendallX23]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Shep didn't defeat anything alone . Me1 shep was a bit more normal. In ME2 his own death didn't even bother him. He acted like super shep. Maybe something as simple as Shep running out of these new fancy heat clips and his gun wont fire. Ash just happens to show up and save the day. I just feel its about time that Ash save shep from certain doom. Instead of the same old thing again. : )

I'd love this to happen. I felt disconnected from my Shepard in ME2 on occasion and signs that he is still human and can make mistakes would go a long way towards fixing that rift for me.

             u know....i am a hope crusher...but knowing Bioware...it won't be Ash/Kaidan saving Shepard from anything...it will mostly be poster girl Liara(sorry for the fans).....or Anderson...but i am still hoping for Ash...

[siriusrambles]

thanks you guys.  <3

i'd like a scenario where ash aided shepard in a way that focused on the person she's become instead of the soldier she was under his command. 

[Chignon]

Wanted to show my support for Ash!

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Shep didn't defeat anything alone . Me1 shep was a bit more normal. In ME2 his own death didn't even bother him. He acted like super shep. Maybe something as simple as Shep running out of these new fancy heat clips and his gun wont fire. Ash just happens to show up and save the day. I just feel its about time that Ash save shep from certain doom. Instead of the same old thing again. : )

I'd love this to happen. I felt disconnected from my Shepard in ME2 on occasion and signs that he is still human and can make mistakes would go a long way towards fixing that rift for me.

I'd also love to see something in ME3 that shows how Ash or Kaidan's character developed. I agree with Kendall, though, considering the sloppy job Bioware did with them both in ME2.
Still can't get over the fact how interchangeable their lines on Horizon are.

[TheBull]

You know thats all great and everything but i have this thought a long time now, after i played through ME 2 again, i noticed something i think i shouldn't have and i guarantee many of you did too.

Everyone remembers the first cutscene at Horizon??!!

Why wasn't Ash/Kaidan abducted, the colonist chick who gets processed in front of you was and she was behind Ash/Kaidan.

I think there is some kind of master plan and i feel that i won't like the result of it.

And please don't say they fought out of it, no matter how strong you would be that wouldn't work.

[Chignon]

TheBull wrote...

You know thats all great and everything but i have this thought a long time now, after i played through ME 2 again, i noticed something i think i shouldn't have and i guarantee many of you did too.
Everyone remembers the first cutscene at Horizon??!!
Why wasn't Ash/Kaidan abducted, the colonist chick who gets processed in front of you was and she was behind Ash/Kaidan.
I think there is some kind of master plan and i feel that i won't like the result of it.
And please don't say they fought out of it, no matter how strong you would be that wouldn't work.

I've always found that a bit strange, too. Doesn't TIM tell you that the Collectors might have even targeted Horizon because Ash/Kaidan were located there? So why did the Collectors just leave them there?
If it would have happened, it might have added a bit more sense of urgency to the whole game, which I never really felt as I did in ME1 with the Geth and Sovereign breathing down your neck.

[trobbins777]

Chignon wrote...

TheBull wrote...

You know thats all great and everything but i have this thought a long time now, after i played through ME 2 again, i noticed something i think i shouldn't have and i guarantee many of you did too.
Everyone remembers the first cutscene at Horizon??!!
Why wasn't Ash/Kaidan abducted, the colonist chick who gets processed in front of you was and she was behind Ash/Kaidan.
I think there is some kind of master plan and i feel that i won't like the result of it.
And please don't say they fought out of it, no matter how strong you would be that wouldn't work.

I've always found that a bit strange, too. Doesn't TIM tell you that the Collectors might have even targeted Horizon because Ash/Kaidan were located there? So why did the Collectors just leave them there?
If it would have happened, it might have added a bit more sense of urgency to the whole game, which I never really felt as I did in ME1 with the Geth and Sovereign breathing down your neck.

Yeah, i remember that.

"They might be going after her to get to you..." gave me goosebumps.

I think bioware explained that it was something along the lines of thier armor has some kind of equipment that released them from the stasis earlier than the colonists.

Modifié par trobbins777, 07 août 2010 - 12:13 .

[Chignon]

trobbins777 wrote...

Yeah, i remember that.

"They might be going after her to get to you..." gave me goosebumps.

I think bioware explained that it was something along the lines of thier armor has some kind of equipment that released them from the stasis earlier than the colonists.

But weren't Ash/Kaidan also the first ones to be attacked by the seeker swarms? I mean, I'm only judging from the cut scene we got. It just would have made more sense if they'd been taken by the Collectors, I think.

Yes, I also got goosebumps. Horizon did have potential. But it was just so meh.

[KendallX23]

that's why i think that Ashley was not sent there just to check on rumors of Cerberus involvement...they already knew the COllectors would attack Horizon...and Ash was there on something even more secret...she couldn't tell SHep..he was with Cerberus at that time....well at least i hope this will hapen...it will make things interesting...

[nitefyre410]

siriusrambles wrote...

thanks you guys.  <3

i'd like a scenario where ash aided shepard in a way that focused on the person she's become instead of the soldier she was under his command. 

 


I just wanted to say that this is most EPIC  Kaiden  I have ever seen 

[Ashaman X]

I have often wondered at why Ash was never taken on Horizon. I can understand if her armor gave her an edge, but it seems that if the Collectors took her, it would have been the best way to possibly break Shepard. Still, I am more than glad she survived though, so that they can work their issues out in ME3.



The sense of urgency in ME2 was lacking, so a mission where you had to save an abducted Ashley could have been really interesting. On the other hand, I am glad that Casey Hudson stated that the LI's were being kept safe for ME3, so at least Ash will be around in one way or another.

[V-rex]

My theory on Horizon is that the Collectors wanted to go after Ashley to coax a rise out of Shepard and make him come after her and so therefore since she's the bait they'd probably save her for last. I mean if they were trying to get closer to Shepard they wouldn't liquefy the only link to Shepard that they have and in the short amount of time they had I doubt they could make a Collector Clone of her or indoctrinate her or anything like that. And if they did I'm fairly sure the clone would kill Shepard as soon as he got close enough, not leave like that.



Plus Lilith was taken but she was like, three hundred feet away from Ash when that happened. Plus if you arrive too late in the final mission you see Kelly get melted not Lilith. My guess is it makes for more drama for it to be a colonist that you recognize then it does to be just some random.



Still that's something I really don't want to imagine. Having Ashley turn into some kind of indoctrinated Reaper Clone for Mass Effect 3 is probably the worst thing that could ever happen to this franchise at least for me and I constantly read the email reminding myself that there is no way a Reaper Clone or indoctrinated human would write something with so much emotion attached.



Seriously though, the last thing I want is for something like that to happen.... so let's force that idea out of our heads right not and return to the Ash love.







Ahhh there we go. Join hands people, join hands.

[V-rex]

Ashaman X wrote...

I have often wondered at why Ash was never taken on Horizon. I can understand if her armor gave her an edge, but it seems that if the Collectors took her, it would have been the best way to possibly break Shepard. Still, I am more than glad she survived though, so that they can work their issues out in ME3.

The sense of urgency in ME2 was lacking, so a mission where you had to save an abducted Ashley could have been really interesting. On the other hand, I am glad that Casey Hudson stated that the LI's were being kept safe for ME3, so at least Ash will be around in one way or another.

Yeah, that's what I hold out hope to. That Casey Hudson made a promise for all the ME1 LI's (my god does that look like a licence plater number) that they were being kept alive for Mass Effect 3, I seriously want to see Ashley return with guns blazing, full swing.

[epoch_]

Ashaman X wrote...
The sense of urgency in ME2 was lacking, so a mission where you had to save an abducted Ashley could have been really interesting. On the other hand, I am glad that Casey Hudson stated that the LI's were being kept safe for ME3, so at least Ash will be around in one way or another.

Before ME2 came out, I think that was the general consensus on what would happen to her. Can't say if I'd of preferred that or not.

Modifié par epoch_, 07 août 2010 - 03:49 .

[SpaceBuscuit]

If Casey has any sense, he'll see that ME3 features all the ME1 and ME2 squadmates, and won't hand us the cop out of an all new team, and our previous friends as token NPCs. Yes, some players may have got their squadmates killed, but why penalize the rest of us? ME3 is the resolution of the story. We need our old friends back. Not 10 new allies.

[Andaius20]

epoch_ wrote...

Ashaman X wrote...
The sense of urgency in ME2 was lacking, so a mission where you had to save an abducted Ashley could have been really interesting. On the other hand, I am glad that Casey Hudson stated that the LI's were being kept safe for ME3, so at least Ash will be around in one way or another.

Before ME2 came out, I think that was the general consensus on what would happen to her. Can't say if I'd of preferred that or not.

Well isn't that what happened on horizon, sorta? You ended up saving Ashley from beign abducted.

[epoch_]

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

If Casey has any sense, he'll see that ME3 features all the ME1 and ME2 squadmates, and won't hand us the cop out of an all new team, and our previous friends as token NPCs. Yes, some players may have got their squadmates killed, but why penalize the rest of us? ME3 is the resolution of the story. We need our old friends back. Not 10 new allies.

There's no doubt that's what BioWare would love to do. The problem is its really not realistically possibly.

[epoch_]

Andaius20 wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Ashaman X wrote...
The sense of urgency in ME2 was lacking, so a mission where you had to save an abducted Ashley could have been really interesting. On the other hand, I am glad that Casey Hudson stated that the LI's were being kept safe for ME3, so at least Ash will be around in one way or another.

Before ME2 came out, I think that was the general consensus on what would happen to her. Can't say if I'd of preferred that or not.

Well isn't that what happened on horizon, sorta? You ended up saving Ashley from beign abducted.

I sometimes forget that I saved her ass given the way she treats you in the conversation.

*she apologies when she cools her head, but still.

[Giggles_Manically]

I forgive Ash for her act on Horizon, I dont forgive Bioware from being so cheap with a bad two minute cameo, and an email that took five mintues to write.

[VutaatVerd]

Only because this does not get old.

[KendallX23]

epoch_ wrote...

SpaceBuscuit wrote...

If Casey has any sense, he'll see that ME3 features all the ME1 and ME2 squadmates, and won't hand us the cop out of an all new team, and our previous friends as token NPCs. Yes, some players may have got their squadmates killed, but why penalize the rest of us? ME3 is the resolution of the story. We need our old friends back. Not 10 new allies.

There's no doubt that's what BioWare would love to do. The problem is its really not realistically possibly.

                i think it's possible...it would just mean the devs would have to work more...as the posibilities are  multiple...but it can be done...still...if we get aaall squadmates back...where would they put them ?unless they add a new level in the ship there would be no place...i can see Ash somwhere to where Garrus is staying..i know...kick Miranda out and get Ashley there...Miranda can get another office..never understood why my XO stays near the well..kitchen

[ReluctantMind]

It looked to me like Ashley wasn't taken on Horizon because she was at the outer edge of the colony when she was frozen. Lilith runs for several seconds toward the heart of the colony before she is frozen. The Collector's then land in the heart of the colony and systematically work outward abducting colonist's. They wanted to pull Shepard there, but probably expected to capture or kill him and figured they would get Ashley at some point with their methodical style.