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[Batlass8]

I don't know, the handshake never felt off to me. Maybe because from Shepard's perspective it hasn't been quite that long? But then again, it has been two years for Ashley/Kaidan, so them initiating a hug would make sense.

[ThatDancingTurian]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

They should hug even if they aren't LI's IMO b/c, I mean, two years is a long time for friends as well. I'd hug my friends if I hadn't seen them in years/thought they were dead. Handshake... really?

Seriously. They saved the Citadel together. She told FemShep about her sisters. And if you played FemShep, saved Ash and didn't romance anyone, she's still the one Shep had to order her to leave when the ship was going down. Romance or not, the two were close. I think ICly Ash would've hugged FemShep anyway, even if that's not how the scene ended up being written.

But I like to hope they've taken the reaction into consideration for ME3 and Ash will be back on the team where she belongs. I'm usually not the type to hope for the best, but this is the final installment. I want to imagine they'll do it justice. And among other things, that means all LIs back to finish what they started.

At the least, Shepard is going to need allies in the Alliance. Joker and Chakwas are Cerberus now. Anderson became a politician. The VS is an invaluable personal link to that pool of resources, someone to speak on your behalf to the Alliance and get them back onto Team Shepard during the coming battle with the Reapers.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 12 août 2010 - 12:25 .

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

They should hug even if they aren't LI's IMO b/c, I mean, two years is a long time for friends as well. I'd hug my friends if I hadn't seen them in years/thought they were dead. Handshake... really?

Seriously. They saved the Citadel together. She told FemShep about her sisters. And if you played FemShep, saved Ash and didn't romance anyone, she's still the one Shep had to order her to leave when the ship was going down. Romance or not, the two were close. I think ICly Ash would've hugged FemShep anyway, even if that's not how the scene ended up being written.

But I like to hope they've taken the reaction into consideration for ME3 and Ash will be back on the team where she belongs. I'm usually not the type to hope for the best, but this is the final installment. I want to imagine they'll do it justice. And among other things, that means all LIs back to finish what they started.

At the least, Shepard is going to need allies in the Alliance. Joker and Chakwas are Cerberus now. Anderson became a politician. The VS is an invaluable personal link to that pool of resources, someone to speak on your behalf to the Alliance and get them back onto Team Shepard during the coming battle with the Reapers.

This post is full of win... I don't know where to start, so I'm just gonna quote it and say I agree! lmao

The VS is supposed to be an important part of the story and dammit... they better be in ME3 and have a huge plot role if they aren't gonna be a squaddie.

[V-rex]

I partly agree, but at the same time a hug would be considered a bit unprofessional considering they were both military and might have been great friends but ultimately just friends who both served in the military together. Hence regulations and general sense of professionalism would probably make the handshake more appropriate.



That said, the hug shows an abandon of military regulations and instead just raw emotion, namely love, so I think that the desperate embrace that Ashley and romanced Male Shepard had on Horizon worked quite well just for itself.



That said, I can see where you are coming from with this.

[Batlass8]

V-rex wrote...

I partly agree, but at the same time a hug would be considered a bit unprofessional considering they were both military and might have been great friends but ultimately just friends who both served in the military together. Hence regulations and general sense of professionalism would probably make the handshake more appropriate.

That said, the hug shows an abandon of military regulations and instead just raw emotion, namely love, so I think that the desperate embrace that Ashley and romanced Male Shepard had on Horizon worked quite well just for itself.

That said, I can see where you are coming from with this.

You said what I was trying to say in a far more well-reasoned manner.  The handshake is a compromise between a friendship hug and an awkward wave/lack of any contact.

[ThatDancingTurian]

V-rex wrote...

I partly agree, but at the same time a hug would be considered a bit unprofessional considering they were both military and might have been great friends but ultimately just friends who both served in the military together. Hence regulations and general sense of professionalism would probably make the handshake more appropriate.

That said, the hug shows an abandon of military regulations and instead just raw emotion, namely love, so I think that the desperate embrace that Ashley and romanced Male Shepard had on Horizon worked quite well just for itself.

That said, I can see where you are coming from with this.

Well I've never been in the military so I can't say whether or not they are typically huggers, and technically Shepard wasn't military anymore. However, Shepard does seem to address things as professionally as possible, so I could see this as an excuse for it. I guess personally, I'm just a hugger, I wanted more hugs. I wanted a Shep/Joker hug when they reunited. I wanted FemShep to hug Garrus if you don't let him kill Sidonis and he's obviously upset. There are always going to be situations where what I believe the characters would do or what I want them to do conflicts with what the characters end up doing, this is just one of those things. I think even if FemShep is worried about professionalism, Ashley is the type that would've gone for the hug.

EDIT: I guess another argument for the handshake could be her conflicted feelings holding her back from doing what she wanted to do, considering she seemed to almost hesitate before letting go and hugging ManShep. She loved ManShep, and that overcame her reservations and the storm of thoughts going on in her mind during Horizon. She cared for FemShep, but it wasn't the same, and she was able to maintain control of it.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 12 août 2010 - 12:47 .

[VutaatVerd]

nothing more to say.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

VutaatVerd wrote...



nothing more to say.

I approve of this message! :wub:

[Lord Zeuss]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

VutaatVerd wrote...



nothing more to say.

I approve of this message! :wub:

Yes, it seems to be a popular one.

[drunken pyromaniac]

I think we can all use an Ash hug.

Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 12 août 2010 - 03:08 .

[trobbins777]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...


I think we can all use an Ash hug.

single best part of the game<3

[jbblue05]

 Ash better be a squadmate in ME3
My Male Shep is a total bad**** but was a sad panda after Horizon:(

He wants to snap TIM spine for putting her in danger and was about to strangle Anderson for withholding information

None of ME LI came close to Ash:wub: they were just eye-candy while Ash was the whole package 

Still wish she was down for the three-some with Liara<_<

But I reloaded and chose AshB)

[homestyle]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

They should hug even if they aren't LI's IMO b/c, I mean, two years is a long time for friends as well. I'd hug my friends if I hadn't seen them in years/thought they were dead. Handshake... really?

Seriously. They saved the Citadel together. She told FemShep about her sisters. And if you played FemShep, saved Ash and didn't romance anyone, she's still the one Shep had to order her to leave when the ship was going down. Romance or not, the two were close. I think ICly Ash would've hugged FemShep anyway, even if that's not how the scene ended up being written.

But I like to hope they've taken the reaction into consideration for ME3 and Ash will be back on the team where she belongs. I'm usually not the type to hope for the best, but this is the final installment. I want to imagine they'll do it justice. And among other things, that means all LIs back to finish what they started.

At the least, Shepard is going to need allies in the Alliance. Joker and Chakwas are Cerberus now. Anderson became a politician. The VS is an invaluable personal link to that pool of resources, someone to speak on your behalf to the Alliance and get them back onto Team Shepard during the coming battle with the Reapers.

They did this on purpose for 2 reasons.

1. Let there be a catfight between the other 2 LI. They sort of force the other LI on you.

2. Make sure the ME1 LI doesn't die in ME2 because ME3 will revolve around the LI from ME1. 

[Lord Zeuss]

homestyle wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

They should hug even if they aren't LI's IMO b/c, I mean, two years is a long time for friends as well. I'd hug my friends if I hadn't seen them in years/thought they were dead. Handshake... really?

Seriously. They saved the Citadel together. She told FemShep about her sisters. And if you played FemShep, saved Ash and didn't romance anyone, she's still the one Shep had to order her to leave when the ship was going down. Romance or not, the two were close. I think ICly Ash would've hugged FemShep anyway, even if that's not how the scene ended up being written.

But I like to hope they've taken the reaction into consideration for ME3 and Ash will be back on the team where she belongs. I'm usually not the type to hope for the best, but this is the final installment. I want to imagine they'll do it justice. And among other things, that means all LIs back to finish what they started.

At the least, Shepard is going to need allies in the Alliance. Joker and Chakwas are Cerberus now. Anderson became a politician. The VS is an invaluable personal link to that pool of resources, someone to speak on your behalf to the Alliance and get them back onto Team Shepard during the coming battle with the Reapers.

They did this on purpose for 2 reasons.

1. Let there be a catfight between the other 2 LI. They sort of force the other LI on you.

2. Make sure the ME1 LI doesn't die in ME2 because ME3 will revolve around the LI from ME1. 

Ahh, yes, 'catfights', a quarrel between two female love interests over the affection of Shepard in flagrant disregard of either of the LI's established characters. The thread has dismissed that claim.

Honestly, we already know Ash doesn't do catfights from ME1. She just confronts Shepard and makes him choose; one or the other, enough messing around.Ashley's a straight-up puncher, she says so herself. She takes the issue directly to Shepard, as she should. There should be, and hopefully will not be, any catfights in ME3 that Ash has anything to do with.

[Funkcase]

LiamN7 wrote...

Agreed Zeuss . Ash cat fight would be stupid and out of character. She confronts Shep when Shep is an idiot. Maybe Ash should just shot Shep in the leg. That would be better.
Keeping Ash out of ME2 so she could be in ME3 with a 3 minute Cameo and really bad writing and no back story at all for those that never played ME1 or hadn't played in a long time? Thanks for that bioware. Hope it makes more sense in ME3.

Indeed, a cat fight would just be childish, Ash would probably have a private word with Shepard about it, she may even just be upset and not angry. But having a fight with Sheps new LI (if Shep wasn't loyal) Is not in character at all. If they provoked Ash, Ash would probably use one of her famous comebacks that she likes to use, and thats all, no pulling hair and slapping, even if there was a cat fight that would even be out of character, Ash is a straight up puncher. But no cat fight Bioware, please, and there must be conseqences for Shepard.

Modifié par Funkcase, 12 août 2010 - 11:13 .

[KendallX23]

or maybe she would just pull out a shotgun and make SHepard loose a knee...and the new LI too...just a thought...the WIlliams sisters can be very dangerous...reminds me of her sister...that was not cheating..but still reminds me not to cheat on Ash...that and the fact that...WHy would i want to cheat on Ashley ?She's the only truly romance that seems well put...( i love other romances like Miranda and Jack...but with Jack it seems too fast and out of place,a woman with her problems is not so easy to romance)

[sagefic]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...


I think we can all use an Ash hug.

it totally looks like shep is nomming on her neck. 

[Kacynski]

KendallX23 wrote...

(snip)..WHy would i want to cheat on Ashley ?She's the only truly romance that seems well put...(snip)

I cannot enough emphasize this. Beside the fact, that Ash is the most attractive character to me (both from her looks and her personality), her romance plot was also the only one that really felt well done in respect to its writing.

I can only hope we get an Ash-hug at the beginning of ME3 and will have her around until the end ..

Beside that, her thread needs a push back to page one ^^

E:spelling

Modifié par Kacynski, 13 août 2010 - 05:09 .

[Lord Zeuss]

Okay, here's a new topic I've been thinking about on and off for a while:

How do you think Ashley would react if one of her sisters enlisted with the Alliance?

I am specifically thinking of Sarah Williams here, but that's just me. I personally Ashley would be supportive, but maybe just a bit concerned. And as much as I'm sure she would go into protective mode at anyone who tried to apply the Williams stigma to her sis, she would probably want her to by and large learn the ropes herself, and if it were Sarah Williams, she probably wouldn't want Ash interfering too much on her behalf (remember Mike?).

It's just my opinion, what do you guys think?

[V-rex]

Nice to see my bold topic titles are becoming popular among other users on the thread.

Clearly I contribute.



Anyway, I think she would be very proud on the one hand that her sister was following in her footsteps but at the same time very concerned for her safety and of course would get quite defensive if the same stigma was held against her sister because of the Williams name.

I suspect Ashley would probably ultimately wish her sister wasn't joining but would be proud of her sister for doing so.

[KendallX23]

well why would she object ?military service is in the familly...i think Ash would like the fact that Sarah joined the Alliance...sure..she might get protective of her....

[Errol Dnamyx]

V-rex wrote...
Nice to see my bold topic titles are becoming popular among other users on the thread.
Clearly I contribute.

I´d appreciate it if other users would leave the use of bold topic titles to the professionals and designated thread veterans.


@topic:
I think she would be worried at first and not proud. Ash has seen what life as a soldier really means. Her whole unit on Eden Prime wiped out, Kaidan died although he did nothing wrong, Shepard died and I´m not even mentioning countless other nameless soldiers that died during the fight against Saren.
However, I don´t think Ash would try to stop her sister from joining the military, but what I can see happening is a honest sister to sister talk about what life as a soldier is like. And Ash definately won´t avoid mentioning that soldiers die, no matter how good they are.
So she would be worried (who wouldn´t be), but would not try to stop her.

Also, Ash pic. Because I feel like it.

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 13 août 2010 - 04:59 .