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[epoch_]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

so, um, what happened to the old thread?

It was locked for off-topicness. For some reason the Talimancers got their old thread back but we're now stuck as the runt of the litter.
We're trying to contain our off-topic chatter in this group.
http://social.biowar...iscussion/7726/

I never really posted in the other thread, but Ash is my favorite character. Sucks the thread got locked.... I'm sure the other character love groups have been just as off-topic.....aka tali thread.


EDIT: LOL! *is already a member of that group* ... I was there when it started, but no one ever posted there. So I never did either. lol

Reed, you were one of like the original members of the Ash fan club group. I remember your name

Also Badpie, planning on any more ash fics? Yours are like the only ones I ever read.

[ashlover mark 2]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

anyway back on topic the ME2 crew is too rogue/renagade ashley is a by the book marnie i dont see her getting along very well with many of them.

On the contrary, Ashley is more along the lines of Chaotic Good, I think.

not if you paragon her.....right ????

[drunken pyromaniac]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

not if you paragon her.....right ????

She never demonstrates a marked "law and order" or "by the books" mentality so I would classify her as a Paragade in either stage.

Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 27 mai 2010 - 11:51 .

[Badpie]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

not if you paragon her.....right ????

She never demonstrates a marked "law and order" or "by the books" mentality so I would classify her as a Paragade in either stage.

I am indeed working on fics.

I would also call Ash paragade.  She's a by the book marine, but she thinks outside the box I think.  She's willing to do whatever needs to be done - within reason.  And she accepts that some of those things will be ...unpleasant.  I might call her chaotic good too, except that I don't feel like she's all that chaotic.  I feel like you always know what you're getting with Ash, especially when it comes to a fight (I mean that in a good way).

[ashlover mark 2]

yfhfrg wrote...

How much actually changes if you 'paragon' Ash anyway? I one of your conversations goes a little differently and she says you made her start believing in the Council. Is there anything else?

she tells you to save the council no matter who you bring with you.

[epoch_]

Badpie wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

not if you paragon her.....right ????

She never demonstrates a marked "law and order" or "by the books" mentality so I would classify her as a Paragade in either stage.

I am indeed working on fics.

fantastic 

[RazerPhoenix]

I don't understand how anyone can call her truely by the book when she fully supports Shepard in commandeering the Normandy.

That is not the actions of someone who operates by the book, that is the action of someone willing to fight for what they believe is right, at any cost.

[drunken pyromaniac]

RazerPhoenix wrote...

I don't understand how anyone can call her truely by the book when she fully supports Shepard in commandeering the Normandy.
That is not the actions of someone who operates by the book, that is the action of someone willing to fight for what they believe is right, at any cost.

Indeed, if she was by the books I think she would be more...rigid in character.

[Some Dude]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

RazerPhoenix wrote...

I don't understand how anyone can call her truely by the book when she fully supports Shepard in commandeering the Normandy.
That is not the actions of someone who operates by the book, that is the action of someone willing to fight for what they believe is right, at any cost.

Indeed, if she was by the books I think she would be more...rigid in character.

If she was by the books she wouldn't have offered Shepard a drink in the first place

[ashlover mark 2]

ok maybe i put it the wrong way when i said "by the book" what i meant was that the ME2 team seem more extreme than her charecter, and she might not blend well with them beacuz of some of there personalties and things theyve done compared too her.

[drunken pyromaniac]

Some Dude wrote...

If she was by the books she wouldn't have offered Shepard a drink in the first place

Right. Chaotic Good doesn't mean chaotic in personality, it means you're willing to go against governments or leadership to do the right thing.

Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 28 mai 2010 - 12:10 .

[drunken pyromaniac]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

ok maybe i put it the wrong way when i said "by the book" what i meant was that the ME2 team seem more extreme than her charecter, and she might not blend well with them beacuz of some of there personalties and things theyve done compared too her.

I disagree on the getting along front but yeah, the ME2 crew was all amped up to 11 in terms of badassitude.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

epoch_ wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

so, um, what happened to the old thread?

It was locked for off-topicness. For some reason the Talimancers got their old thread back but we're now stuck as the runt of the litter.
We're trying to contain our off-topic chatter in this group.
http://social.biowar...iscussion/7726/

I never really posted in the other thread, but Ash is my favorite character. Sucks the thread got locked.... I'm sure the other character love groups have been just as off-topic.....aka tali thread.


EDIT: LOL! *is already a member of that group* ... I was there when it started, but no one ever posted there. So I never did either. lol

Reed, you were one of like the original members of the Ash fan club group. I remember your name

Also Badpie, planning on any more ash fics? Yours are like the only ones I ever read.

O.o ... someone remembered me, even though I never post there!? Maybe I should post there a lot.... I could be famous! 

But yeah, the group was never really that active.... so I kinda forgot about it. =/

Need to make it active! Cause Ash is just so awesome! 

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

If she was by the books she wouldn't have offered Shepard a drink in the first place

Right. Chaotic Good doesn't mean chaotic in personality, it means you're willing to go against governments or leadership to do the right thing.

I think she is more "Lawful" good b/c .... if she were chaotic good she would have definitely helped Shepard stop the collectors for the good of humanity. Cerberus were the only ones doing anything about it, but she refused to help....she doesn't like cerberus b/c of some of the things they do. (Most of which are against the law....hence Lawful Good). If not Lawful, then Neutral Good.... I don't think she's chaotic, meaning willing to do anything for the greater good.

[ashlover mark 2]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

so, um, what happened to the old thread?

It was locked for off-topicness. For some reason the Talimancers got their old thread back but we're now stuck as the runt of the litter.
We're trying to contain our off-topic chatter in this group.
http://social.biowar...iscussion/7726/

I never really posted in the other thread, but Ash is my favorite character. Sucks the thread got locked.... I'm sure the other character love groups have been just as off-topic.....aka tali thread.


EDIT: LOL! *is already a member of that group* ... I was there when it started, but no one ever posted there. So I never did either. lol

Reed, you were one of like the original members of the Ash fan club group. I remember your name

Also Badpie, planning on any more ash fics? Yours are like the only ones I ever read.

O.o ... someone remembered me, even though I never post there!? Maybe I should post there a lot.... I could be famous! 

But yeah, the group was never really that active.... so I kinda forgot about it. =/

Need to make it active! Cause Ash is just so awesome! 

i reacomend you click the link....its pretty active now.

[RazerPhoenix]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

If she was by the books she wouldn't have offered Shepard a drink in the first place

Right. Chaotic Good doesn't mean chaotic in personality, it means you're willing to go against governments or leadership to do the right thing.

I think she is more "Lawful" good b/c .... if she were chaotic good she would have definitely helped Shepard stop the collectors for the good of humanity. Cerberus were the only ones doing anything about it, but she refused to help....she doesn't like cerberus b/c of some of the things they do. (Most of which are against the law....hence Lawful Good). If not Lawful, then Neutral Good.... I don't think she's chaotic, meaning willing to do anything for the greater good.

In the beginning, while she may not have agreed with Cerberus methods, I'm pretty certain that she would have at least respected Cerberus objectives to protect human interests.
However, you must remember that Ashley then becomes under the impression that Cerberus are involved with the disappearing colonies and is investigating accordingly. When you meet her on Horizon, she probably isn't fully aware that Cerberus aren't involved and makes it perfectly clear that she won't work for them.

I reckon however that if you were to contact Ash after she has emailed you and had time to reflect, she would be alot more willing to join you and Cerberus in fighting the Collectors.

[drunken pyromaniac]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...


I think she is more "Lawful" good b/c .... if she were chaotic good she would have definitely helped Shepard stop the collectors for the good of humanity. Cerberus were the only ones doing anything about it, but she refused to help....she doesn't like cerberus b/c of some of the things they do. (Most of which are against the law....hence Lawful Good). If not Lawful, then Neutral Good.... I don't think she's chaotic, meaning willing to do anything for the greater good.

1. From a metagaming perspective, that's the writer's fault, not her's.
2. She literally cannot, she's a soldier, therefore if she joined Shepard that would be deserting, a very serious offense. Also, Cerberus is a terrorist organization, it would be extremely unwise to join up without checking up on Shepard and thinking about it for a while.

[ashlover mark 2]

RazerPhoenix wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

If she was by the books she wouldn't have offered Shepard a drink in the first place

Right. Chaotic Good doesn't mean chaotic in personality, it means you're willing to go against governments or leadership to do the right thing.

I think she is more "Lawful" good b/c .... if she were chaotic good she would have definitely helped Shepard stop the collectors for the good of humanity. Cerberus were the only ones doing anything about it, but she refused to help....she doesn't like cerberus b/c of some of the things they do. (Most of which are against the law....hence Lawful Good). If not Lawful, then Neutral Good.... I don't think she's chaotic, meaning willing to do anything for the greater good.

In the beginning, while she may not have agreed with Cerberus methods, I'm pretty certain that she would have at least respected Cerberus objectives to protect human interests.
However, you must remember that Ashley then becomes under the impression that Cerberus are involved with the disappearing colonies and is investigating accordingly. When you meet her on Horizon, she probably isn't fully aware that Cerberus aren't involved and makes it perfectly clear that she won't work for them.

I reckon however that if you were to contact Ash after she has emailed you and had time to reflect, she would be alot more willing to join you and Cerberus in fighting the Collectors.

HERESY!!!!! ash would nevar join cerberus!!!

[Badpie]

I think she probably thought the wool was being pulled over Shepard's eyes more than she thought he was betraying everything. She doesn't trust Cerberus - and like she said it worried her that Shepard did. She had to have been wondering what lies they'd told him.

[RazerPhoenix]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...
2. She literally cannot, she's a soldier, therefore if she joined Shepard that would be deserting, a very serious offense. Also, Cerberus is a terrorist organization, it would be extremely unwise to join up without checking up on Shepard and thinking about it for a while.

If she was certain that it was the right thing to do, considering how quickly she was willing to commit treason with Shephard, I doubt deserting would bother her too much.

[drunken pyromaniac]

RazerPhoenix wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...
2. She literally cannot, she's a soldier, therefore if she joined Shepard that would be deserting, a very serious offense. Also, Cerberus is a terrorist organization, it would be extremely unwise to join up without checking up on Shepard and thinking about it for a while.

If she was certain that it was the right thing to do, considering how quickly she was willing to commit treason with Shephard, I doubt deserting would bother her too much.

Metagaming reason.She cannot join because the writers don't want her too.
Also, I would respect her less if she joined up with the space IRA without a second thought.

[Some Dude]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

RazerPhoenix wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...
2. She literally cannot, she's a soldier, therefore if she joined Shepard that would be deserting, a very serious offense. Also, Cerberus is a terrorist organization, it would be extremely unwise to join up without checking up on Shepard and thinking about it for a while.

If she was certain that it was the right thing to do, considering how quickly she was willing to commit treason with Shephard, I doubt deserting would bother her too much.

Metagaming reason.She cannot join because the writers don't want her too.
Also, I would respect her less if she joined up with the space IRA without a second thought.

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