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^Ohh I forgot to add that, paragon'd I guess since that's what I normally do. It's just a little something I think is interesting

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tommyt_1994 wrote...

Hey guys, dropping my to see what you guys think Ashley would do in various situations that Shep is thrown in. Don't be afraid to throw in why, and what you did in the situation../../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png

What do you think Ash would do in:

***BDtS
***Zaeed Loyalty Mission
Save/let Council die
Rachni choice
Feros choice
Virmire choice
Collector Base decision
Legion Loyalty
Overlord choice
Samesh Bhatia decision
Jacob Loyalty choice

And that's all I can think of. I know that she voices her opinions on certain choices, but most of those are due to the game's design of each of your squad making a point for each side

***These two are the most interesting to me


Can't speak to all of those, but I can easily see her letting the rachni queen go ("I don't want a genocide on my conscience when I go to the final judgment" seems a lot truer to her character than "we know their kind are killers" IMO), but I think she'd have made it a lot clearer than Shep did that they'd better not double-cross her, or she would hunt them down and feed their eggs to varren pups. (I'm just saying, Shep took it all completely on faith, which is nice in principle, but he really should have backed it up with the threat of consequence for a betrayal).

Ash would absol-posi-lutely nuke the Collector Base into cinders. Too many humans died there, and the thought of Cerberus and the Illusive Man especially getting their hands on it wouldn't sit well with her at all.

For Feros, I think she'd go with the middle "Try not to harm the colonists, but do what you have to do" option. We know takes a tough but fair doctrine with subordinates, so I don't think it's that big a leap to apply that to a sticky situation like Feros. If left with no other option, she'd pull the trigger, but she'd do whatever she could to avoid an unnecessary death.

As for Overlord, I think Dr. Archer would look back fondly on the days when he got off with a pistol-whipping and sardonic postcards from Shepard every year, if you know what I'm saying.;)

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I think Ash would be pretty paragon for most.

She's a colony kid herself, so I don't see how she would want to hit colonists.

She would use a renegade choice on Mr. Bosker to get Mr. Bhatia's wife back. She's compassionate like that

She would want to go after Balak, but would relent for the hostages, again because of her compassion.

She would probably tell the Alliance to focus on Sovereign, but I couldn't see her agreeing to what is essentially humanity's usurpation of the galaxy.

I think she would kill the rachni queen. I think she's compassionate, but as far as she knows, they wiped out the galaxy. She also mentions to Shep, if I let the rachni queen go, how they were dangerous, but that it was my call to make.

I think she would save the workers on Zorya, but she would let Zaeed live, although I personally haven't saved the colonists yet because I did the mission once with a renegade dude.

She's blow the Collector base. No question.

For Overlord, quoting Lord Zeuss:

I think Dr. Archer would look back fondly on the days when he got off with a pistol-whipping and sardonic postcards from Shepard every year, if you know what I'm saying.


Regarding Legion: his kind killed her whole unit on Eden Prime. I think she'd send him to Cerberus for study.

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Brodyaha wrote...

 Regarding Legion: his kind killed her whole unit on Eden Prime. I think she'd send him to Cerberus for study.




Ash would probably send it to the Alliance, or she might not take any chances with Legion and take Jacobs advice ''space it''

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Except that it was Heretic Geth who killed her unit, not Legion.

He showed up later.



However at that point we dont know that. I really dont think she would wake Legion up, she might be interested in it talking, but not enough to try to talk to it.

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Sorry, I was assuming that Ash was in Shepard's shoes, including being roped into working for Cerberus. :P

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Brodyaha wrote...

Sorry, I was assuming that Ash was in Shepard's shoes, including being roped into working for Cerberus. :P

Most likely she would not be wiling to do that.

I am not, and take great pride in blowing the base, blowing TIM off, and stealing his best ship/soldiers/and schwag.
All in five minutes no less.

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Brodyaha wrote...
She would use a renegade choice on Mr. Bosker to get Mr. Bhatia's wife back. She's compassionate like that


I'm not so sure she would. If you go paragon on Mr. Bhatia, and convince him to let the Alliance study Nirali's body, Ash affirms that "Nirali would want to make sure that no one else has to go through what you're going through, Mr. Bhatia".

She's compassionate, but she's also also a realist, and saving Alliance lives in the long run might take prececdence.

This is of course idle speculation based on a subjective viewpoint of a specifec character, so truth be told there are no correct answers. I just figured I'd thow my two cents in the discussion. Posted Image

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Malcolm Theory wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...
She would use a renegade choice on Mr. Bosker to get Mr. Bhatia's wife back. She's compassionate like that


I'm not so sure she would. If you go paragon on Mr. Bhatia, and convince him to let the Alliance study Nirali's body, Ash affirms that "Nirali would want to make sure that no one else has to go through what you're going through, Mr. Bhatia".

She's compassionate, but she's also also a realist, and saving Alliance lives in the long run might take prececdence.

This is of course idle specualion based on a subjective viewpoint of a specifec character, so truth be told there are no correct answers. I just figured I'd thow my two cents in the discussion. Posted Image



It's a hard one tbh, it could go both ways. Yes there is this (above) and I agree with it all, but Ash was good friends with Nirali Bhatia, I assume. (she knows that she missed Mt Bhatia's cooking, and played his recordings) Would Ash be fine knowing her friends body will be having tests done, and not getting a proper burial, leaving her husband in more grief? It realy depends with Ash, she could think like that, or about the benifits the tests will bring the Alliance.

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Funkcase wrote...

It's a hard one tbh, it could go both ways. Yes there is this (above) and I agree with it all, but Ash was good friends with Nirali Bhatia, I assume. (she knows that she missed Mt Bhatia's cooking, and played his recordings) Would Ash be fine knowing her friends body will be having tests done, and not getting a proper burial, leaving her husband in more grief? It realy depends with Ash, she could think like that, or about the benifits the tests will bring the Alliance.


Yep, it certainly is a tough one to figure out. I spent literally two hours wieghing the pros and cons of each decision, finding every piece of dialogue and getting all the information. I originally chose the "compassion" route (I always play as a strict paragon, so naturally I assumed that it was the best choice), but every playthrough afterward, I went with the  "life saving"  decision.
She supports both decisions, showing no favor with either. Where's that decisive Ash we know and love? Posted Image

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*sigh*

Things are really slow in this thread... and every single one of the Ashley groups.

And this isn't an off-topic post, seeing as this concerns Ashley support. Posted Image

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Malcolm Theory wrote...

*sigh*

Things are really slow in this thread... and every single one of the Ashley groups.

And this isn't an off-topic post, seeing as this concerns Ashley support. Posted Image



The Ash fans are pretty split, due to in-fighting, sadly.

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Funkcase wrote...

The Ash fans are pretty split, due to in-fighting, sadly.


I see, that explains it.

Well, we're still around, so we can still attempt to keep morale up and carry on the discussion... right, bro?

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Malcolm Theory wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

The Ash fans are pretty split, due to in-fighting, sadly.


I see, that explains it.

Well, we're still around, so we can still attempt to keep morale up and carry on the discussion... right, bro?



Indeed. Posted Image

Most of them are still about they just dont post as much anymore, a few of them made another group (not Ashley related though) Sadly most dont post in the Ash groups or here as much anymore. Some post in the thread for the Ashley & Kaidan dlc. and atleast this thread and the groups aint completely empty I guess, Ash is worth it! Posted Image

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What caused the split?



I am downloading ME1 on Steam but its going to be another 18 hours it looks like.........

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Funkcase wrote...
Indeed. Posted Image

Most of them are still about they just dont post as much anymore, a few of them made another group (not Ashley related though) Sadly most dont post in the Ash groups or here as much anymore. Some post in the thread for the Ashley & Kaidan dlc. and atleast this thread and the groups aint completely empty I guess, Ash is worth it! Posted Image


"Ash is worth it!"

Is that the catch phrase you guys use? I like it. Posted Image

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

What caused the split?

I am downloading ME1 on Steam but its going to be another 18 hours it looks like.........



Just some trolls started posting in one of the groups, some of the Ash fans made another group instead of contacting the group leader and kicking them, so by doing so it alienated the rest of the Ash fans causing some arguments, and now they mostly post in that group and forget about the Ash group and this thread.

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Malcolm Theory wrote...

Funkcase wrote...
Indeed. Posted Image

Most of them are still about they just dont post as much anymore, a few of them made another group (not Ashley related though) Sadly most dont post in the Ash groups or here as much anymore. Some post in the thread for the Ashley & Kaidan dlc. and atleast this thread and the groups aint completely empty I guess, Ash is worth it! Posted Image


"Ash is worth it!"

Is that the catch phrase you guys use? I like it. Posted Image


Indeed it is, we have been waiting for so long since ME1 for more Ash, and all we got was a five minute cameo and no dlc (yet) But ower Shepards stay faithfull to Ash, it's a harsh, long wait, but Ash is worth it!

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Funkcase wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

What caused the split?

I am downloading ME1 on Steam but its going to be another 18 hours it looks like.........



Just some trolls started posting in one of the groups, some of the Ash fans made another group instead of contacting the group leader and kicking them, so by doing so it alienated the rest of the Ash fans causing some arguments, and now they mostly post in that group and forget about the Ash group and this thread.


I'm an officer in one of the Ash groups... Was it by any chance the "Ashley Williams Fan Club" that caused so much trouble?

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Malcolm Theory wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

What caused the split?

I am downloading ME1 on Steam but its going to be another 18 hours it looks like.........



Just some trolls started posting in one of the groups, some of the Ash fans made another group instead of contacting the group leader and kicking them, so by doing so it alienated the rest of the Ash fans causing some arguments, and now they mostly post in that group and forget about the Ash group and this thread.


I'm an officer in one of the Ash groups... Was it by any chance the "Ashley Williams Fan Club" that caused so much trouble?


No it was ''Ashley Williams for ME3'' group, it's the most active Ash fan group, next to the ''Ashley, Kaidan and Liara fans unite!''group. You should join if you haven't already. It aint as active as it used to be, but it's still pretty active. Just click the Ashley Stamp in my sig, that will take you there.

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Interesting... I already answered this same list for Miranda...

BDtS

- Balak wouldn't walk. The Alliance will pick him up for questioning, beaten up within an inch of his miserable life. She's a professional soldier. No negotiating with terrorists.

Zaeed Loyalty Mission

- Ash would choose to save the captives, damn Zaeed and his Vendetta. If she had her choice, Zaeed would be kicked off the squad after this stunt.

Save/let Council die

- Keep an eye on the objective, Sovereign. Spare the human fleet to attack it. And save human lives in the process, it's what the Council would have done had the position been reversed.

Rachni choice

- She wouldn't trust the bug. Pour some acid on it, the only way to be sure. But really, she wouldn't like to be the one to make this choice. Faaar above her pay grade.

Feros choice

- Save every colonist she can. Let Shiala live, tho I'm not sure she'd allow her to stay with the Colonists. Perhaps taken into custody with the Alliance instead?

Virmire choice

- She'd sacrifice herself, no questions asked. Even with her "death wish", Kaidan is a superior office, a tech expert, and a powerful biotic to boot.

Collector Base decision

- Destroy it. She might see the potential in studying the tech, but I think she'd be wary of the risk of indoctrination. Besides, that thing is... unholy, for the lack of a better word. A foul thing.

Legion Loyalty

- She'd ship it to Alliance intel to tinker with, thus the loyalty decision would never come up. If it did, she would destroy the heretics. No reason to take a chance that the same "error" would crop up later.

Overlord choice

- Scrap the project and ship David to safety. Dr. Archer would be shipped to Alliance authorities minus half his teeth.

Samesh Bhatia decision

- Depends on her personal view regarding the sanctity of the deceased... But I'm fairly sure she'd be in favor of allowing the Alliance to try and develop new defences.

Jacob Loyalty choice

- Take the scum bag into custody.

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No it was ''Ashley Williams for ME3'' group, it's the most active Ash fan group, next to the ''Ashley, Kaidan and Liara fans unite!''group. You should join if you haven't already. It aint as active as it used to be, but it's still pretty active. Just click the Ashley Stamp in my sig, that will take you there.


Yeah, I was already a member of that group. That's Badpie and SilverRoses' neck of the woods.

Ashlover, J (even though she's a liara fan), and I, took control over the "Fan Club" group, after the old leader jumped ship to Tali. It's pretty slow over there, so there hasn't been any need for officers, though.

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I didn't realize the Ash group was split. :( Although I don't know how long it's been going on, I've only been here a couple of months.

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Brodyaha wrote...
 And people attack Ashley because of her beliefs.  But I think you guys are right, it's because she's human.
Give her a third eye and extra fingers, and Miranda's ass, and then maybe Ashley will be appealing enough.


That is the best thing I have heard In a forum posting, In a long time.  I agree with it  wholeheartly

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Funkcase wrote...

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I think that just says it all right there...va va and voom Posted Image

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