I have not heard anything yet but if i were a betting man i'd be putting my money on a Kaiden/Ash centered DLC. Since people who romance Liara finally got a decent payoff for their trouble, i would think kaiden/Ash lovers will be extended the same courtesy as long as the DLC is based on after the suicide mission, and not something that can be done before. I don't see them taking apart of anything you're doing until you denounce your connections with The Illusive Man and Cerberus. I would definitely like to see it as the next DLC, though.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:00
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Well I am no fan of the DLC route that Bioware has taken. But VS DLC would show some attention to Ash. That would be good. I have never seen them do that.
But how about we just get some info on how ME3 will be. I would like to put this baby to bed. If Ash isn't in it, given a tiny role like me2, or bioware screws up in some horrible way. I simple wont buy it. But I would like to know. I want the waiting to end.
But how about we just get some info on how ME3 will be. I would like to put this baby to bed. If Ash isn't in it, given a tiny role like me2, or bioware screws up in some horrible way. I simple wont buy it. But I would like to know. I want the waiting to end.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 01:54
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I'd like something in the scope of either Shivering Isles from The Elder Scrolls IV or Broken Steel from Fallout 3. I'd like them to be fairly large, say five or six hours of extra gameplay, and expand the story. So far, I liked Kasumi's mission and all, but it was only about an hour of extra gameplay as well as another character in an already crowded room.
The Overlord DLC is supposed to be about two and half, which is good, but if all it is is a run in, shoot and leave mission same with Shadow Broker DLC but with a nice good ending for liara love Fans for their sheps. What I don't want Bioware to do is a stand alone romance pack.
I may be alone in this, but it has to come with something else for me to want to buy it. I can't see paying for a couple of extra scenes of Shepard staring into his/her love interest's eyes. I read somewhere that they were planning to release DLC that would expand the story up to the prologue of the third game, which intrigues me. Although, I hope the prologue doesn't involve Shepard dying and the crew scattering. That would kind of ****** me off.
The Overlord DLC is supposed to be about two and half, which is good, but if all it is is a run in, shoot and leave mission same with Shadow Broker DLC but with a nice good ending for liara love Fans for their sheps. What I don't want Bioware to do is a stand alone romance pack.
I may be alone in this, but it has to come with something else for me to want to buy it. I can't see paying for a couple of extra scenes of Shepard staring into his/her love interest's eyes. I read somewhere that they were planning to release DLC that would expand the story up to the prologue of the third game, which intrigues me. Although, I hope the prologue doesn't involve Shepard dying and the crew scattering. That would kind of ****** me off.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:04
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LiamN7 wrote...
Well I am no fan of the DLC route that Bioware has taken. But VS DLC would show some attention to Ash. That would be good. I have never seen them do that.
But how about we just get some info on how ME3 will be. I would like to put this baby to bed. If Ash isn't in it, given a tiny role like me2, or bioware screws up in some horrible way. I simple wont buy it. But I would like to know. I want the waiting to end.
I agree Liam,I would even settle for a teaser screenshot/vid of Ash in some capacity.
All this waiting is starting to take it's toll on my sanity.I don't think I can wait much longer.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:07
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Honestly a third of my Shepards are hinging on a good close to the VS.
If Bioware does something bad with it, I will lose a lot of faith in them.
If Bioware does something bad with it, I will lose a lot of faith in them.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:12
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ME2 killed faith in bioware for me. They are very good and still my favorite game company. They could do a great job in ME3. They are more than capable. But for me with anything they every do I will need to be convinced to buy it. I pre-ordered me2 collectors edition because of how much I love ME1 and faith in bioware. That will never happen again.
It was, is , and shall be Ashley.
It was, is , and shall be Ashley.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:15
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To true Liam. we as Ash lovers get treated like the Morrigan lovers did.
We got nothing while other fans revel in completion, and DLCs.
Honestly if well done I will love Bioware again, if not then I will really start to wonder why they did it.
Now back to Jade Empire, when Bioware wasn't a soulless machine run by EA.
We got nothing while other fans revel in completion, and DLCs.
Honestly if well done I will love Bioware again, if not then I will really start to wonder why they did it.
Now back to Jade Empire, when Bioware wasn't a soulless machine run by EA.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:21
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I was playing ME1 before checking in here tonight. I saved when I landed on Ilos. So I had just had one of my favorites parts. : ) I love it when Ash says,.... Oh captain ,. MY captain. Good times.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:24
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I am still aboard the Normandy.I saved right after I had my first convo with Ash. 
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:27
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I have said it here before. But I always save before talking to Ash. That way I can go back and just do the conversations with Ash. Sometimes I just start up the game to talk to Ash. Playing on PC I can have alot of saves. Ash is worth it.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:47
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Yay, lots of Ash love!
I'm almost at Ilos with her. Destroying some geth incursions first.
I'm almost at Ilos with her. Destroying some geth incursions first.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:53
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I have youtube since my ME1 got ate when my last PC bought the farm.
You can dis, dem or dat all you want but the very first thing that got me about Ash was:
Dat voice.
Literally I just love listening to her talk.
You can dis, dem or dat all you want but the very first thing that got me about Ash was:
Dat voice.
Literally I just love listening to her talk.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:55
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@ Brodyaha there is always lots of Ash love and Ash lovers. Just not always here.
Ash to Shep " And you will always be the skipper to me,, Oh captain,.... MY captain,.... "
Ash to Shep " And you will always be the skipper to me,, Oh captain,.... MY captain,.... "
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 02:59
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Giggles_Manically wrote...
Literally I just love listening to her talk.
This, this, THIS!
K. Brooks is a bloody brilliant actress!
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:03
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Like i said, if i were a betting man i'd be putting my money on a Kaiden/Ash centered DLC. Since people who romance Liara finally got a decent payoff for their trouble, i would think kaiden/Ash lovers will be extended the same courtesy as long as the DLC is based on after the suicide mission, and not something that can be done before. I don't see them taking apart of anything you're doing until you denounce your connections with The Illusive Man and Cerberus. I would definitely like to see it as the next DLC, though.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:07
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I am not a fan of DLC shadowhawk. But I would also at to the DLC thing. How about solo mission for Shep. No other squad mates. We have had enough time apart for Ash we should be able to have a mission just with her. Not to much to ask.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:23
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Well I have Ash waiting on Ilos. I hate to keep her waiting. She can get a bit feisty when she is kept waiting. Later : )
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:25
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If Bioware does not answer what Ash hinted at before Ilos I will be a sad panda.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 03:32
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Hey, haven't been here in a while (been busy with stuff, as well as using my non-busy time for Dragon Age forum-posting). However I wanted to pop in after seeing this quote:
Only several truer statements have been spoken. Ash and Morrigan are very similar in character depth and the fact that each of their storylines is being handwaved. Frankly I have no idea why some of the best characters/LI Bioware has created have been so underutilized and not done justice...
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To true Liam. we as Ash lovers get treated like the Morrigan lovers did.
We got nothing while other fans revel in completion, and DLCs.
Only several truer statements have been spoken. Ash and Morrigan are very similar in character depth and the fact that each of their storylines is being handwaved. Frankly I have no idea why some of the best characters/LI Bioware has created have been so underutilized and not done justice...
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 05:31
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Shadow_82 wrote...
LiamN7 wrote...
Well I am no fan of the DLC route that Bioware has taken. But VS DLC would show some attention to Ash. That would be good. I have never seen them do that.
But how about we just get some info on how ME3 will be. I would like to put this baby to bed. If Ash isn't in it, given a tiny role like me2, or bioware screws up in some horrible way. I simple wont buy it. But I would like to know. I want the waiting to end.
I agree Liam,I would even settle for a teaser screenshot/vid of Ash in some capacity.
All this waiting is starting to take it's toll on my sanity.I don't think I can wait much longer.
I agree they need to hurry up with something!!
I miss Ash<3
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 05:53
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I REALLY wouldn't compare Ash's plight with Morrigan... Morrigan got a DLC of her own, quality be damned. Leliana likewise, and Alistair had speaking parts in at least one DLC and the expansion. Morrigan is also likely to feature in future Dragon Age products, much more so than any other companion from DA:O.
If anyone, Zevran and the Virmire Survivor seem similar. Equal role to the other LIs in the release version of the game, forgotten afterwards.
If anyone, Zevran and the Virmire Survivor seem similar. Equal role to the other LIs in the release version of the game, forgotten afterwards.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 08:30
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Well one of my main comparisons is based on the popularity levels as well as the treatment of the characters. Ash, unfortunately, isn't a popular LI compared to Liara or the ME2 LIs. Morrigan is in a similar situation, as she is the least popular of the LIs, especially compared to Zevran, who you mentioned. Yeah, she got her own DLC, but it wasn't what it should have been so it sort of was an injustice to her.
Plus there are small movements to get these characters more exposure in the futures of their respective franchises.
Well one of my main comparisons is based on the popularity levels as well as the treatment of the characters. Ash, unfortunately, isn't a popular LI compared to Liara or the ME2 LIs. Morrigan is in a similar situation, as she is the least popular of the LIs, especially compared to Zevran, who you mentioned. Yeah, she got her own DLC, but it wasn't what it should have been so it sort of was an injustice to her.
Plus there are small movements to get these characters more exposure in the futures of their respective franchises.
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Err... Are you quite sure that Morrigan is the least popular? 
I'd say along with Leliana, she's the MOST popular among the fandom. If you count the males and the females as separate, there's a case to be made that either Leliana or Morrigan is the most popular of the females (they seem equally popular to me tbh), and Alistair is the most popular male. In my opinion Zevran is the least popular of the four, but even he has quite the following. There are no "Jacobs" in Dragon Age, which speaks to the quality of writing.
The reason I'd compare Zevran with the VS, is that due to his romance plot he is quite important in the "core" game, but has received zero extra content since. Even non-LIs like Wynne, Oghren, and Dog have had extra content. Even frigging Loghain had extra lines in Return to Ostagar. Even the letter he (and Leliana) were supposed to send to you in the expansion ended up bugged.
As far as I know, Zevran hasn't had anything. His fanbase is as ignored as us VS fans.
I'd say along with Leliana, she's the MOST popular among the fandom. If you count the males and the females as separate, there's a case to be made that either Leliana or Morrigan is the most popular of the females (they seem equally popular to me tbh), and Alistair is the most popular male. In my opinion Zevran is the least popular of the four, but even he has quite the following. There are no "Jacobs" in Dragon Age, which speaks to the quality of writing.
The reason I'd compare Zevran with the VS, is that due to his romance plot he is quite important in the "core" game, but has received zero extra content since. Even non-LIs like Wynne, Oghren, and Dog have had extra content. Even frigging Loghain had extra lines in Return to Ostagar. Even the letter he (and Leliana) were supposed to send to you in the expansion ended up bugged.
As far as I know, Zevran hasn't had anything. His fanbase is as ignored as us VS fans.
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Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 09:06
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Mox Ruuga wrote...
Err... Are you quite sure that Morrigan is the least popular?
I believe so. I see much more Leliana, Alistair, and Zevran fanart than Morrigan fanart, so thats how the fandom appears. Plus its also based on the recent telemetry data David Gaider posted on a few of the Dragon Age threads, which clearly showed that Morrigan was romanced less than the other 3.
And maybe its the fact that I care little for Zevran, but while there was ample reason for a Morrigan DLC, there wasn't really any reason at all to include post-Origins romance stuff between Zevran, Leliana, and Alistair. I mean, these romance plots are fairly secure and can easily be closed for the future of Dragon Age.
Morrigan, not so much because of her significance to the overall story and the fact that most players who are major fans of her and the romance want most of all for their Wardens to return with Morrigan. Morrigan's plot thread was left completely open, even after the end of Witch Hunt.
Thats why this situation compares more to Ashley or Kaidan than any other. Like Morrigan, Ashley and Kaidan's romances are still in the air game-wise and those who romanced either have received NOTHING as far as settlement goes with the romance in regards to Mass Effect 2, which is why we were want an Ashley DLC and even a Kaidan DLC, so that we can find out of Bioware will let us continue these romances or whether we'll get screwed over.
If you go to the Morrigan thread sometime, you'll see many similarities between the situation here and there.
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Mox Ruuga wrote...
The reason I'd compare Zevran with the VS, is that due to his romance plot he is quite important in the "core" game, but has received zero extra content since. Even non-LIs like Wynne, Oghren, and Dog have had extra content. Even frigging Loghain had extra lines in Return to Ostagar.
On this, a romance doesn't exactly make a character important in the core game unless they CANNOT be killed... another issue people have with the whole concept of a Virmire Survivor. Based on that I could see truth in what you say, but overall, anyone but Morrigan, the Warden, and probably Alistair (due to the rumored cameo), are relatively insignificant to the grand scheme of things.
Ashley and Kaidan are important to the Mass Effect story besides being a potential romance. At least ONE of them survives, so they're a lot more similar to Morrigan in relevance to the respective games.
