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[Prince of Kemet]

Does anyone think that Bioware is setting us up with the VS indicating that they would "never" join Cerberus? We're all expecting a fastball but, I feel a curve or a slider coming our way. I seriously think that Ash/Kai made that statement for a specific set up that is to come in DLC or ME3.

[Daewan]

I just wanted to confess that I normally can't stand Ash, but the other day I started an Ash-positive playthrough with the default Shep just because of you guys. Killing Kaidan will be hard, but I'll do it for Ilos. I mean, science! Right.

[AntenDS]

I always kill Kaidan just because he isn't as useful.

[Funkcase]

AntenDS wrote...

I always kill Kaidan just because he isn't as useful.

Kaidan is actually one of the most useful squadmates in the game, tbh all squadmates are useful it just depends on your class, and play style.

Wrex and Ash suit my Shepard fine though. But having a good tech and biotic is great if your Shepard is a soldier., that make Kaidan realy useful. Ash is the tank, can use all weapons, and can take alot of damage.

It's kinda sad Ash or Kaidan has to die, they have a perfect balance of combat, tech and biotics making a great squad.

Overall I would say Wrex is the most useful squadmate, but Ash is my favourite down to her character, I play Mass effect for the story and characters, not the combat, that's just a bonus.

[Lord Zeuss]

Funkcase wrote...

AntenDS wrote...

I always kill Kaidan just because he isn't as useful.

Kaidan is actually one of the most useful squadmates in the game, tbh all squadmates are useful it just depends on your class, and play style.

Wrex and Ash suit my Shepard fine though. But having a good tech and biotic is great if your Shepard is a soldier., that make Kaidan realy useful. Ash is the tank, can use all weapons, and can take alot of damage.

It's kinda sad Ash or Kaidan has to die, they have a perfect balance of combat, tech and biotics making a great squad.

Overall I would say Wrex is the most useful squadmate, but Ash is my favourite down to her character, I play Mass effect for the story and characters, not the combat, that's just a bonus.

Amen to that, brother. In fact, in my current ME1 playthrough (which I need to get back to sooner or later) Ash and Kaidan is my favorite squad bar none. Ash is a monster with that sniper rifle, and between a vanguard Shep and Kaidan I manage to get some usefulness out of tech/biotics.

[tonykart34]

Not including Ashley in ME2 was either the biggest mistake BioWare made or an absolutely ingenious move (if they bring her back as a love interest in ME3). Should have had more opportunities to chat with her. Completely X-ing her from the story line was really dumb though.

[Clone 071]

Brodyaha wrote...

I admit that when I played ME1 the first time, for some reason I couldn't get into Ash.
I decided to take her with me on more missions, to try to get to know her, and now she beats Garrus as one of my favourite characters (along with Kaidan).  Now I can't remember why I didn't really like her in the first place.
I tried the same with Liara and Tali (even going so far as to romance Liara), and while I can't say I really like Liara (sorry for those who do), I do like Tali more (she has some nice quips if you take her along with missions).
I think trying is all it takes. If you still don't like a character, then hey, at least you tried.
So, I guess what I'm saying is: good for you Dae!

Yeah, that's all it does take. Just to try having a different squadmate instead of your normal pick throughout the game. I have to also admit, I honestly disliked Kaidan when I first played ME 1. Everytime I got the chance to swap squadmates at the beginning of the game, I would always swap out Kaidan for someone else. (Tali or Garrus) But thanks to the Sentinel Ally achievement, I started to know Kaidan better and began liking him more and more as a squadmate and character.
Liara on the other hand, I'm in the same boat as you. I'm just not drawn in as much as others are, but that's just me.

[PrinceLionheart]

Wish I could get it in higher quality, but I'm out of luck since I play on the 360.

[skcih-deraj]

[quote]Funkcase wrote...

[Wrex and Ash suit my Shepard fine though. Ash is the tank, can use all weapons, and can take alot of damage.

quote]


The same I always bring Ash and wrex when I'm doing my vanguards playthrough. 

[LessThanKate]

Brodyaha wrote...

I admit that when I played ME1 the first time, for some reason I couldn't get into Ash.
I
decided to take her with me on more missions, to try to get to know
her, and now she beats Garrus as one of my favourite characters (along
with Kaidan).  Now I can't remember why I didn't really like her in the
first place.
I tried the same with Liara and Tali (even going so far
as to romance Liara), and while I can't say I really like Liara (sorry
for those who do), I do like Tali more (she has some nice quips if you
take her along with missions).
I think trying is all it takes. If you still don't like a character, then hey, at least you tried.
So, I guess what I'm saying is: good for you Dae!

I was definetely in a neutral area with Ashley at first...in fact, I made the silly assumptions based on some...less than convincing arguments that she was going to beat me over the head with her apparent racism. When it became obvious that that was NOT the case, I decided to spare her on Virmire instead.

...I think I may have also made the assumption, based on opinions I've overlooked, that the aliens were automatically more interesting. I didn't get into the games until recently, so once I got over the initial excitement of ME2 (all the hype finally pushed me to get the first game), I was able to relax and appreciate some of the overlooked characters better.

Yeah, that's what I always do, bring different characters along...plus, hey, long as I'm playing multiple time, might as well get as much of the achievementsI can. It actually helped me like Kiaden more, and I was kind of on the fence with him. "I've got snow in my boots". Pfft, dork. That same effort did not make me like Liara anymore, however...I don't know, she's just...okay. I find her...clingy. 

That's one thing I wish they left in Mass Effect 2, though...all the squad members had several things to say, depending on where you were exactly. In the seuqel, it's one thing per hubworld, with some differences if you bring a character that interupts. 

Actually, last time I played through the first game...you know that mission where you search monkeys for a module of some kind? I never knew the character ever said anything when you shot one in the cave. Kaiden says something like, "Remind me never to get on your bad side, Commander", Liara says something about humans being violent...anyone know what Ash says? I figure she'd find it funny.

Funkcase wrote...

AntenDS wrote...

I always kill Kaidan just because he isn't as useful.

Kaidan is actually one of the most useful squadmates in the game, tbh all squadmates are useful it just depends on your class, and play style.

Wrex and Ash suit my Shepard fine though. But having a good tech and biotic is great if your Shepard is a soldier., that make Kaidan realy useful. Ash is the tank, can use all weapons, and can take alot of damage.

It's kinda sad Ash or Kaidan has to die, they have a perfect balance of combat, tech and biotics making a great squad.

Overall I would say Wrex is the most useful squadmate, but Ash is my favourite down to her character, I play Mass effect for the story and characters, not the combat, that's just a bonus.

Agreed...which is why I made the Shepard that romanced Ashley a Sentinel. I don't know if there's one most definete useful character, but I found it amusing that, even though Shepard was the big badass hero, Ash was the muscle of the operation, almost like a bodyguard. 

Oh, and did you all see this? I think I remember this thread discussing what she might wear on shore leave, so: rabbitzoro.deviantart.com/#/d30lt4r

Modifié par LessThanKate, 18 octobre 2010 - 02:07 .

[LessThanKate]

I recall someone on another thread saying how with Ashley's sacrifice, her sisters were freed from the burden. She dies a hero, and so they can live normal lives. It was a compelling argument, and again I do often feel there are more reasons for her being the one to die.



Only real reason I have is...less concrete. If she wants to lift the burden, she should work for it. She should feel that burden lifted while she's still alive. Surely helping save all life in the galaxy from an undying race of squid ships would help ease family suspicions.



Plus, well...I just like spunky girls. Girls that let you know what they're thinking (within reason). I like most of the other females in this series, but none of them are remotely like her. I'm guessing the appeal for...certain other characters is that they're...docile? More willing to please? Ashley may be an admirer (especially if Shepard's a War Hero, or so I've heard), but she's not president of the Shepard fanclub. I don't know how guys generally feel about this sort of thing, but I like that she presents more of a challenge.

[Aedan_Cousland]

Ashley surviving and helping Shepard defeat the Reapers redeems her family name just as much as sacrificing herself on Virmire.  Following the inevitable victory over the Reapers I'm fairly certain all of Shepard's squadmates will be remembered by the entire galaxy as heroes.

[LessThanKate]

I would imagine so...assuming, of course, Ash does rejoin the Shepard cause in some way...I'm still a little afraid Bioware might pull a fast one on us.

[Aedan_Cousland]

Ashley will definitely be in ME3 in some fashion, as those who had her as an LI and stuck with her will need some resolution. Whether or not that translates to her being a squadmate or just someone you run into on your travels however, remains to be seen. I do hope she returns as a squadmate, but even if she doesn't play a role in the final battle against the Reapers, I think her name is still redeemed by her actions in ME1. You can't succeed without her on Eden Prime and even if she survives she plays a large role in disrupting Saren's plans on Virmire. (as well as perhaps on another worlds, depending on your squadmate choices)

[Mox Ruuga]

Ashley (and Kaidan) are my bets for the returning squaddies. Yes, just them. Some of the others might receive LotSB style single mission appearances, but considering the amount of possibilities for survivors and possible deaths, and Bioware's love of designing new characters, I think they will have a mostly new squad. And not one as large as the one in ME2 either, especially if we'll have more than one "guest appearance" from "old favorites", with possibly more in DLC releases.

I'm not even counting Liara as a squaddie, because of the type of role they gave her, tho she'd definately be one of the "guest stars" for a single mission.

[Aedan_Cousland]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Ashley (and Kaidan) are my bets for the returning squaddies. Yes, just them. Some of the others might receive LotSB style single mission appearances, but considering the amount of possibilities for survivors and possible deaths, and Bioware's love of designing new characters, I think they will have a mostly new squad. And not one as large as the one in ME2 either, especially if we'll have more than one "guest appearance" from "old favorites", with possibly more in DLC releases.

I'm not even counting Liara as a squaddie, because of the type of role they gave her, tho she'd definately be one of the "guest stars" for a single mission.

I also think the Virmire survivor is the best bet to return as a squadmate, but I wouldn't rule Liara out just yet. I think she'll play a similar role as TIM in ME3, providing Shepard with information on new recruitable squadmates and setting you up for the main story missions. But I think it is entirely possible that she'll eventually be in the squad as well. After all prior to the final battle she'll no longer have a role to play, so why not be the last recruitable squad member? She's also the only squadmate after the Virmire survivor that is guaranteed to have survived into ME3.

[Paul_Grayson]

For me the most important thing is the return of Ashley as a romantic interest

Modifié par Paul_Grayson, 19 octobre 2010 - 03:01 .

[Lord Zeuss]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

One of the little touches in LOTSB i liked was Liara's apartment, with all the Prothein artifacts and the painting... It shows she (or Bioware) didn't forget her background as a Prothein Archaeologist in ME1. Shepard even mentions it, which i loved.

Yeah, I just loved how the picture of Eden Prime was referred to as "a Prothean dig site". The less connection we have with anything that *might* remind us of Ash the better.<_<

BW could have easily forgotten about ME 1, and had no artifacts or anything pertaining to the Prothiens in Liara's apartment, its a very nice touch on BW's part.

Bioware's fixation with Liara is well-documented at this point. None of this surprised me.

Ashley/Kaiden... On the BW/ME2 boards a lot of people (more than i would have thought) are calling for an Ashley/Kaiden dlc, especially after the way things were left in ME2. A few people have complained because Shepard gets to continue his/her love story with Liara but Ashley/Kaiden ended on not so great terms.

And maybe its because Ashley/Kaiden are Alliance, but i also noticed a few people asking BW for some Alliance missions, I wouldn't mind that, i miss Admiral Hackett's personal calls to the Normandy asking for assistance. That was so much better then getting e-mail after e-mail.

Casey Hudson said that there is more dlc episodes on the way, and we should hear about the next one soon (soon means 2-3 months in Bioware time, give or take). My guess is somewhere around the holidays. It'll either be announced or released. What its going to be is any one's guess.

Yeah, we'll just have to hope something is on its way, either some kind of DLC (not holding my breath, at least not until after DA2) or a respectable handling of the characters in ME3.

[LessThanKate]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

One of the little touches in LOTSB i liked was Liara's apartment, with all the Prothein artifacts and the painting... It shows she (or Bioware) didn't forget her background as a Prothein Archaeologist in ME1. Shepard even mentions it, which i loved.

It's nice that they didn't forget completely, and I give them credit for explaining Liara's whole...process. But I still find it odd, even a little amusing, that she just switched jobs. Only in fiction can people make drastic jumps to careers they're not necessarily qualified for 

A while ago there was a thread discussing if she cared more for Shepard than the others. I tried to argue otherwise, I think this thread has established that Ash handled it in a very stable, normal way. Liara cared in...her own special way, but...if a loved one dies of an unknown disease, does not seeking the cure mean you don't care?

I know I'm going slightly off topic, but I just...found Liara somewhat off-putting. She couldn't let Shepard go? Honey, you're going to live ten times longer--you're going to have to learn. I guess I just prefer couples where each partner is...on equal terms, figuratively speaking. The same or similar maturity levels.

shadowhawk233 wrote... And maybe its because Ashley/Kaiden are Alliance, but i also noticed a few people asking BW for some Alliance missions, I wouldn't mind that, i miss Admiral Hackett's personal calls to the Normandy asking for assistance. That was so much better then getting e-mail after e-mail.

Would be nice to see what that guy looks like...but yeah, I suppose being told about an assignment verbally has more purpose.

So hey, fanart time again. There's nothing showing here, but I would still deem it NSFW: powguero.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2z47hi

This one is overall ME1 fanart, but it's very cool. Very retro and stylized. joefreakinrocks.deviantart.com/#/d30cenv

I find it hilarious how cute she looks in contrast to the other two: migisan.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d23jf89

Lulz, Mordin's just watching, grooving on it: lostacanthus.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2y6zpz

[Aedan_Cousland]

I know I'm going slightly off topic, but I just...found Liara somewhat off-putting. She couldn't let Shepard go? Honey, you're going to live ten times longer--you're going to have to learn. I guess I just prefer couples where each partner is...on equal terms, figuratively speaking. The same or similar maturity levels.

Could Liara's reaction to Shepard's death have been different from Ashley's because they are also from two different species? With the Asari you are dealing with an alien psychology. They may mourn differently and react to grief differently than humans do. So, it may be wrong to condemn Liara for being immature.

[GuardianAngel470]

I never really liked Ashley. She was always too abrasive to me.

[Errol Dnamyx]

ok



(I stole the pic from BP derp)