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[LessThanKate]

I don't know much about alcohol...don't do much drinking myself. If I had to take a guess...something relatively straightforward and rich...maybe some kind of lager? XD



I took a look at the Kaiden thread...thought it was amusing and appropriate that someone suggested an Irish coffee for him. Ash doesn't strike me as a coffee person, though...sooner that than tea, though.

[gja82]

wow very creative

[VutaatVerd]

gja82 wrote...

wow very creative

Well a lot of people around here are just that, but you may need to specify what you really mean by that. I have too much to assume on about Ashley to know what you are talking about.

[Ashaman X]

It's amazing how quiet it's become lately in terms of ME news. I really wish we could hear about potential Ash DLC, or at least some news on ME3. I really would like to continue what I started with her. The other romances don't interest me, nor do other classes or playing as FemShep.



I've also been wondering: after Ash leaves Horizon and heads back to the Citadel, what does she do with herself? Take some shore leave, continue doing missions for Anderson? Either way would work for a DLC come to think of it.

[V-rex]

Well I think after the shock of seeing Shepard alive again and after reporting her findings to the Citadel, I reckon she would probably take a long rest and think. After all, this would be quite a day, all things considered. If the time gap between Horizon and her sent message are any indication, she probably had a fair bit of thought and time to reflect and probably regret what she said.

But still, after sending the email in a hope of clearing the slate, I don't see her as the sort to sadly wait around for a reply, she'd probably just go back to doing missions or maybe even asking Anderson if there's anything else he hadn't told her.

As for her preferred drink, I'd say either standard wine or maybe scotch on the rocks. Or maybe a martini.

... sorry I don't know much about liquor.

Modifié par V-rex, 27 octobre 2010 - 11:32 .

[Lord Zeuss]

I just found an Ash/Shep music video on YouTube set to "Never Too Late" by Three Days Grace. The resolution is a bit low at times, but it was nice to see some effort put into one of these.

[V-rex]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

I just found an Ash/Shep music video on YouTube set to "Never Too Late" by Three Days Grace. The resolution is a bit low at times, but it was nice to see some effort put into one of these.

That video was so epic and so intense and of course, very moving.
It's always nice to see a video made that respects Ashley Williams and her romance subplot in general, I thought it was great. Low res sure, but great nonetheless. Not so sure about the music in some places, though the part about 'giving your own life' when Shepard rescues her on Virmire was spot on perfect if you ask me.
Still, it's just nice to see someone put the effort in to make something for Ashley for a change.

Also, let it be known, I just went back to the 'Ashley Williams reuinion' video and frankly, after seeing them call her a 'religos b*tch' and that she needs 'some ****** too so I have something to looks at' and that her shooting 'wrex' prevents him from 'unting tatchunka' and finally 'i blew her up i on virmire to hell', my opinion of them has reached the lowest point ever.

You know what, I can honestly say that I really no longer care in any way what these people have to say. They can whine and complain as much as they want. We have our kickass videos, fond memories and we are all brought together by mutual liking for a video game character.

Let it be known throughout the land: If they can't handle the greatness of Ash, then well, sucks to be them.



The V-rex has spoken!!

Modifié par V-rex, 27 octobre 2010 - 01:51 .

[Raanz]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

I just found an Ash/Shep music video on YouTube set to "Never Too Late" by Three Days Grace. The resolution is a bit low at times, but it was nice to see some effort put into one of these.

Nice!  We need more Ash/Shep videos.  This one is well done....kind of wish there were no sub-titles but hey, still good. Kudos.

Ash is not for everyone, that is for sure, but that makes me like her even more.  It's easy to be a Tali or Liara fan, you have a ton of support, but to be a fan of a character that people have some really misplaced negative opinions of takes something.
Ash: one of the better written characters in the ME universe.

[Aedan_Cousland]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

The lack of Ashley and Kaidan content in ME2 needs to be made up for. Two minutes with no character development (they had the same freaking lines, for crying out loud) doesn't cut it.

Even if there is no DLC for Ashley or Kaidan I'd bet on the Virmire Survivor returning to the squad in ME3. After all the Virmire Survivor is the only squadmate other than Liara guaranteed to still be alive after two games.

[chris025657]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

I remember Ashley, when first discussing her family history, says something like "I'll never be good enough for the Alliance,". Maybe that's where a base-keeping Shepard could come in. I convinced her that she's too good for the Alliance, that they're blind to all the good she's done, just like they've ignored Shepard's warning about the Reapers. If you were loyal, she'll see you integrity and fight by your side again.

I've been really curious to see what effect, if any, keeping the Collector base will have on the Ashley romance. Major decisions, with the exception of getting a LI killed, have not had any effect on the ability to romance someone. It's possible they could completely ignore whether the base was kept or not, which would be terrible. Or it could make for some interesting potential conflict between a faithful, mostly paragon Shepard who decided to keep the base and Ashley. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I'd hate for keeping the Collector Base to have actual negative impacts on the Ashley romance. My canon Shepard kept the base and stayed loyal to Ashley. I'd suck if I screwed up the effort I put into that at the very end.



In fact I'd hate for the Collector base to be something to forces you to have one allegiance or the other in ME 3.



I didn't look at it as a question of whether you were loyal to Cerberus, but whether you were willing to use collector technology against the Reapers.



Although the fear of being forced into losing the loyalty of Ash and the Alliance pretty much was the reason I went back and created a save where I destroyed the base just in case.

[V-rex]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

When you watch the opening cut scene for Horizon either Ashley or Kaiden are obviously put in to frozen stasis by the swarm for the collectors. Yet at the end of the mission they come out and meet you at the end.

I have listen to the dialogue a few times and there is no mention of how they suddenly were released from the effects or how they got free.

Leaves me wondering if they were not somehow converted by the collectors so they could go back to spy on the alliance or for some other purpose.

Anybody else have thoughts on this and wondered about it?

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

Sorry, I don't mean to come across as hostile or aggressive but this really is an issue that upsets me quite a bit. the last thing I would ever want is for some silly plot twist where Ashley suddenly turns out to be an indoctrinated slave to the Collectors or Reapers or whatever, just because there was a slight plot hole involved with the whole Horizon thing.
Seriously, after all the crummy deals we keep getting and lack of general recognition, having THAT kind of a plot twist would just about kill me. It would mean sacrificjng any emotional depth of two characters who loved each other coming back together in a nice decent closing way, in favor of a randomly added in 'super evil boss fight'.

It would mean that the whining youtube commenters who wanted nothing more than to kill Ashley for not bowing before them like a doormat on Horizon will get their wish but the dedicated fans would get squat. I want to see Ashley and Shepard go from shaky to steady to finally back together over the course of the story, not just see Shepard have to kill the evil possessed clone of her.
I would hate to see good potential wasted like that.

Plus, even if she doesn't need to be killed in some utterly stupid boss fight scenario it's still not a good idea in my books. Because it means it gives strength to the idea that Shepard is utterly infallible and that therefore, the only way anyone could dare NOT agree with him word for word about everything MUST be indoctrinated by some evil force. To me, that would compromise the character of Ashley greatly as well as make any real emotion and depth once again moot.

Point is, we've had enough bad stuff coming our way and if Ashley turns out to be indoctrinated by Reapers then I will also demand that Tali turn out to be a secretly evil spy who eventually cuts of Shepard's penis and throws it out the airlock, and that Liara turns out to have a baby eating fetish, and that Miranda has been secretly brainwashing Shepard this whole time and that Jack injected Shepard with a syringe filled with cancer.

Seriously, why should WE have to be given that kind of lame plot twist, but not everyone else? I hold onto the hope that Bioware actually does stay true to their word and make staying with Ashley actually worth it to those who have waited for so very long now for any form of recognition, rather than just decimate it with a 'OMG SHE'S NOW EVIL!!' kind of plot twist.

Wow, I can ramble a bit, huh? In any case, sorry for lashing out and I certainly didn't mean to offend you. I think you have some valid points on this but I really don't want to see Ashley turn into a converted indoctrinated Reaper slave.

[Lord Zeuss]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I'd hate for keeping the Collector Base to have actual negative impacts on the Ashley romance. My canon Shepard kept the base and stayed loyal to Ashley. I'd suck if I screwed up the effort I put into that at the very end.

In fact I'd hate for the Collector base to be something to forces you to have one allegiance or the other in ME 3.

I didn't look at it as a question of whether you were loyal to Cerberus, but whether you were willing to use collector technology against the Reapers.

Although the fear of being forced into losing the loyalty of Ash and the Alliance pretty much was the reason I went back and created a save where I destroyed the base just in case.

I actually wouldn't be too worried about this, since the result is likely to be retconned one way or another. Probably the most reaction we'll get about the fate of the Collector Base is a few isolated lines of dialogue by someone. Probably Liara. Given the fact that they can't make two separate games based on the end of the previous one, I would expect Collector Base-decision to be of minimal impact and likely end up as being of no importance at all or almost none (see Udina as Councilor no matter what).

So no, I don't think that decision will have any bearing on the Ashley romance. Cheating in ME2 will probably instigate an extra line of dialogue (see Liara's nonreaction from Lair) but little else.

[Getorex]

No decisions you make have any real impact on the actual gameplay or outcome. Sure, they COULD alter interactions with characters, but the overall impact of ANY decision is virtually zero for the outcome of the game.



If you LI'd Ash, then you get her forgiveness after her snapping at you on Horizon. I doubt it gets flipped back the other way due to a decision to keep the base rather than destroy it. Hell, keeping the base or destroying it also cannot have any real impact on the outcome of the game. I SERIOUSLY doubt the developers are going to give you a one-way ticket to losing in ME3 based on something from ME2 (though they should). Differences/additions in cutscenes is what to expect, not much else.

Modifié par Getorex, 29 octobre 2010 - 02:18 .

[Getorex]

shadowhawk233 wrote...

When you watch the opening cut scene for Horizon either Ashley or Kaiden are obviously put in to frozen stasis by the swarm for the collectors. Yet at the end of the mission they come out and meet you at the end.

I have listen to the dialogue a few times and there is no mention of how they suddenly were released from the effects or how they got free.

Leaves me wondering if they were not somehow converted by the collectors so they could go back to spy on the alliance or for some other purpose.

Anybody else have thoughts on this and wondered about it?

I think you are way overreading into this situation. The ONLY person on the colony NOT in stasis was the **** engineer dude cowering in the little building. EVERYONE else was in stasis awaiting complete pickup by Collectors. Shepard simply interrupted their operation. When the ship is driven off, the stasis fields lose their support (the ship and Collectors presumably) and shut down. I'd doubt that the stasis could or would be permanent if not actively shut down.

Remember, they lost HALF the colony. The other half were in stasis on planet and obviously were freed of stasis after the ship left.

Modifié par Getorex, 29 octobre 2010 - 02:16 .

[Lord Zeuss]

Favorite love interest from ME1 poll here.

[RocShemp]

Definitely Ashley for me. I disliked her at first but she eventually won me over.



I found Liara to be totally bland and uninteresting. She was the Lana Lang of Mass Effect.



I never played as a female Shepard so I cannot comment about Kaidan as a love interest. However, I thought he was a great friend and hated being put in a position to choose between him and Ashley.

[nickkcin11]

Is Ashley the second most popular character after Tali? I hope so because that should make Bioware put her in the game more. I was dissapointed to say the least of her appearance in Mass Effect 2.

I saw in the Miranda support forum an idea for ME3/DLC that was a rivalry between Ash and her. I think this is a great idea. If anyone wants to read up on it, its the support thread from the thread with a list of support groups.

[mortons4ck]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

I know I'm going slightly off topic, but I just...found Liara somewhat off-putting. She couldn't let Shepard go? Honey, you're going to live ten times longer--you're going to have to learn. I guess I just prefer couples where each partner is...on equal terms, figuratively speaking. The same or similar maturity levels.

Could Liara's reaction to Shepard's death have been different from Ashley's because they are also from two different species? With the Asari you are dealing with an alien psychology. They may mourn differently and react to grief differently than humans do. So, it may be wrong to condemn Liara for being immature.

That makes some sense. I mean Shep and Liara shared a vulcan mind-meld asari psychic bond that "transcends time and space." (her words from ME1) Its possible she knew deep down Shep was alive.