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[Dave of Canada]

nickkcin11 wrote...

Is Ashley the second most popular character after Tali?

Doubt it. She's hated by a large majority of people who believe she's a xenophobe that wants to burn all aliens at the stake, she's also hated because she "won't shut up about her religion" (even though she mentions it only once). Quite sad, actually.

[Silentmode]

Dave of Canada wrote...

nickkcin11 wrote...
Is Ashley the second most popular character after Tali?

Doubt it. She's hated by a large majority of people who believe she's a xenophobe that wants to burn all aliens at the stake, she's also hated because she "won't shut up about her religion" (even though she mentions it only once). Quite sad, actually.

Yeah I think its safe to say thats Garrus, hell he may be ahead of Tali.

[AntenDS]

After romancing Ashely and making her see the error of her ways i just think she was the best written L.I. in Mass Effect for Male Shep. I haven't played as a Female Shep so I don't know how Kiaden is. I was going to let the council die on my romancing Ash play through but she actually told me to save the them. It actually through me for a loop so i saved them. What does annoy me most about Ash is her story about Williams women being a decisive bunch and her constant reciting of poetry.

Modifié par AntenDS, 01 novembre 2010 - 01:23 .

[RocShemp]

Kaidan and Ash had great depth to them. It was facinating to see Kaidan open up and deeply rewarding to get through to Ashley and ffind tghe root of her prejudice towards non-humans.

Liara was sort of just there. I don't know how they managed to make a being who's been alive for centuries seem so bland and uninteresting but they did. I also don't get how Liara ever got to be a popular character.

Modifié par RocShemp, 01 novembre 2010 - 01:00 .

[AntenDS]

I just really picked her the first two times because she was had her own DLC. I didn't get ME1 and 2 till a few days before Lair of the Shadow Broker came out. Tali had some depth but her dialog kinda ended abruptly because she wasn't an LI.  Yeah Liara was pretty much just there.  She probed you mind a few times and just was pretty dull and you really never got to know her as more than a Prothian archaeologist.

Modifié par AntenDS, 01 novembre 2010 - 01:26 .

[Mecha Tengu]

nickkcin11 wrote...

Is Ashley the second most popular character after Tali?

huh? I thought Tali was the most hated character on the forums

[V-rex]

Okay,new topic for a new day:

Assuming Halloween or any form of costume party still exists as a concept in the Mass Effect universe, what do think Ash would dress up as?

I personally would say she's go as Ash from the Evil Dead Trilogy, she quotes him enough so I reckon she'd like to dress up as a female equivilent, chainsaw hand and all.

What say everyone else?

EDIT: Yeah I know, a little bit late as Halloween just ended but, still...

Also:



Figured the thread could use one.

Modifié par V-rex, 01 novembre 2010 - 01:29 .

[Hyper_gateway]

After I finished my first Me playthrough with Ashely as my LI, she turns to as a very charming person. Even some of my Shepard didn't choose her as LI, but always choose to save her on Virmire and now I know why I did that.

Here's my favorite shot of Ash:

[RocShemp]

AntenDS wrote...

I just really picked her the first two times because she was had her own DLC. I didn't get ME1 and 2 till a few days before Lair of the Shadow Broker came out. Tali had some depth but her dialog kinda ended abruptly because she wasn't an LI.  Yeah Liara was pretty much just there.  She probed you mind a few times and just was pretty dull and you really never got to know her as more than a Prothian archaeologist.

I got my copies of ME1 and ME2 shortly after LOTSB was released as well.  I just didn't care one bit about Liara to consider her romance-worthy.  So I wasn't curious to see how that'd play out in LOTSB.  As for Ashley, I disliked her at first.  It wasn't until I gradual;ly got to know her that I grew to like her and wanted Shepard to end up with her.

That said, Tali was the most loveable character.  I was so upset she wasn't a love interest in ME1.  However, I didn't romance her in ME2 either.  I almost did but Jack (much to my surprise at the time) won me over.

[AntenDS]

RocShemp, I didn't like her at first either but even though she can be cool I wanted my Default and Black Shep to choose an alien. I am really debating if I should Keep the Collector Base with my Ash LI play through because I want to choose something different.

Modifié par AntenDS, 01 novembre 2010 - 03:51 .

[1483749283]

Agreed, Liara was just kind of there until LotSB. The level of the writing for her character was nowhere near Ash's.

The came LotSB, at which point Liara broke out and trounced every other squadmate in depth.

Now us fans of any and all the other squadmates are clamoring for more in-depth treatment of our favorites... if all squadmates get the same upgrade in writing and nuanced personality that Liara did in LotSB---my already big respect for Bioware would go through the roof.

Modifié par Pausanias, 01 novembre 2010 - 05:01 .

[RocShemp]

Pausanias wrote...

Agreed, Liara was just kind of there until LotSB. The level of the writing for her character was nowhere near Ash's.

The came LotSB, at which point Liara broke out and trounced every other squadmate in depth.

Now us fans of any and all the other squadmates are clamoring for more in-depth treatment of our favorites... if all squadmates get the same upgrade in writing and nuanced personality that Liara did in LotSB---my already big respect for Bioware would go through the roof.

Although LOTSB was great, I don't think Liara was made all that deep.  We found out about her friend (or rather that she has a friend since details were sparse even in that aspect), we vaguely learned what she went through to secure Shepard's corpse, and that she's now the new Shadow Broker.  There's plenty of story development there but not that much character development.  About all that's different about Liara is that she's tougher and darker in her outlook.

Character-wise, LOTSB left me wanting.  Story-wise, it was an interesting glimpse as to where allegiances will possibly lie in ME3.

That said, I wish the Shadow Broker hadn't been defeated or even revealed.  I was liking the notion of Liara being a rival Information Broker and how her rivalry with the Shadow Broker might make her "go to the Dark Side," as it were.  It's a storyline that could have been stretched out and best resolved midway through ME3.

Modifié par RocShemp, 01 novembre 2010 - 07:17 .

[RocShemp]

Yeah but wasn't it discovered that the audio files for the Liara DLC were already in the game? Meaning that DLC had been planned for quite some time.

[Chignon]

Bump from the Kaidan thread!

@shadowhawk

With the little difference of Liara being included and acknowledged as a romance in previous DLCs. Compare that to Ash and Kaidan. There was no mention in the Kasumi DLC and just one comment in LotSB. One that didn't even acknowledge the romance status and while Shepard was able to tell Liara that she - or any of the ME2 LIs - is what s/he fights for.
I get that Bioware said they "saved" them for an "integral role". But that doesn't justify the manner in which they were treated in ME2 and the following DLCs. It's seems more of an excuse than anything else.

I don't expect anything from ME3 in regards to Ash and Kaidan and I doubt that we will get a DLC. I wouldn't mind to be proven wrong, however.

[jlb524]

RocShemp wrote...

Yeah but wasn't it discovered that the audio files for the Liara DLC were already in the game? Meaning that DLC had been planned for quite some time.

That doesn't mean Ash/Kaidan DLC wasn't planned.   ME2 didn't ship with any files from Overlord.

I still remain hopeful...there's definitely more DLC to come, and we still have a ways to go before ME3 hits the shelf.

[ADLegend21]

jlb524 wrote...

RocShemp wrote...

Yeah but wasn't it discovered that the audio files for the Liara DLC were already in the game? Meaning that DLC had been planned for quite some time.

That doesn't mean Ash/Kaidan DLC wasn't planned.   ME2 didn't ship with any files from Overlord.

I still remain hopeful...there's definitely more DLC to come, and we still have a ways to go before ME3 hits the shelf.

yeah I think there'll be more DLC bridges to come aswell, but the virmire survivor needs to come next since Liara got hers. I want my Ashely reconciliation!

[RocShemp]

jlb524 wrote...

RocShemp wrote...

Yeah but wasn't it discovered that the audio files for the Liara DLC were already in the game? Meaning that DLC had been planned for quite some time.

That doesn't mean Ash/Kaidan DLC wasn't planned.   ME2 didn't ship with any files from Overlord.

I still remain hopeful...there's definitely more DLC to come, and we still have a ways to go before ME3 hits the shelf.

That I didn't know.  My hope for Ashley DLC is restored and I award you +5 Paragon points.

[RocShemp]

As much as I wasnt more DLC, it'd be awesome if this delay in news lead to a full fledged add-on to ME2 instead. I'd gladly pay for that.

[Funkcase]

Tbh, as each day goes by I dont know what to think, a part of me thinks the delay in ME news is a sign they are doing something big, and the fact they have took notice of the VS dlc thread gives me hope they are doing something. Still at the back of my mind, I wonder if Bioware still thinks us as ''acceptable losses'' as one of the devs called us on the old forums. Although that was fans of ME1 LI's (not just Ash and Kaidan) and they gave Liara fans something, I hope they give us the same, if not, us Ash and Kaidan fans are the only ones left with nothing, if we are left like this until ME3, ME2 IS the most disappointing game I have ever played.

Modifié par Funkcase, 04 novembre 2010 - 10:54 .