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[VutaatVerd]

To All,

It saddens me to have to re-post what I said nearly one day ago.

VutaatVerd wrote...

I would like to remind everyone that this topic is about Ashley (for the love or Hate (prefer no hate)). I have started to see more off topicness here on the support forum. If you have any off topics please use the Off topic link in the OP or my Sig. I would prefer not having to setup a new "The 'official' Ashley Williams support thread 1.2" forum and start all the lost topics again, on top of a low post count.

So please keep it on topic about Ashley.

Please keep this about Ashley or I will request the thread be locked by an Mod/Admin. This course would greatly sadden me if the Ashley support forum would be closed by an Mod/Admin for off topicness.


Now I know that some of the post can somewhat mean about Ashley or VS in general, but they do not state that in the post, therefore is could be off topic.



Now that is over, I'd like to think that Ashley is home with the family for Thanksgiving. Ash is bout to cut into the slow roasted honey coated turkey, that her mother prepared. Sarah is over putting the finishing touches on the fruit salad. As the Williams sit down to enjoy the meal Ashley recites Ulysses in memory of her father. Just after finishing Ulysses, the there is a knock at the front door. Lynn being the closest to the doors, gets up to see who it could. Lynn does not recognize the man in front of her, but thinks she knows this man from some where. She begins to think where she could have seen this tall, medium build man. With a black crew cut hair, with a small scare above the left eye and dark stubby beard. he is also wearing a black pinstriped suit, but leaving the top two buttons undone on the white pinstriped shirt. Before she could think any further the gentleman said "I am Commander Shepard" is Ashley home? Lynn nods her head in approval. Shepard then ask if he may enter the household, Lynn gladly says yes now knowing who the man is.

Ashley who is still cutting turkey turns head to hear the news from Lynn about who was at the door. In seeing Shepard behind Lynn, she drops the knife to the floor. Ashley with a puzzled and surprised face ask what are you doing here Shepard with a sadden tone. Shepard say Anderson told me where you where and I thought I might come join you for dinner, that is if you will have me. Before Ashley could say anything, her mother says yes you may stay for dinner young gentleman. Ashley almost tired to object, but knew that it just cause a fight with the family. This is the first time any of the Williams have actually seen Shepard in person. As Shepard finish his introduction, before Ashley or any of the other family members gets an chance to introduce themselves, Shepard guesses each of their names correctly. The William Sisters were in to know he knew each of their names. Shepard noted the while Ashley was aboard the Normandy that she talk about her family a lot and the names of each of sisters names came up more than once.


Over dinner Shepard and Ashley tell stories about traveling over the galaxy trying to stop Saren. The Williams family got to hear two sides of the story on how Shepard met Ashley on Edin Prime. Part way over dinner Sarah blurted out it must fate that Ashley met Shepard, as she has not seen such care and affection from Ashley to another person outside of the Williams family in a log time, even after their fathers death. Ashley somewhat redden in the face yelled SARAH!!! She did not think any of her sisters would say something like that in front of others or herself for that matter. Sarah with a slight laugh in her voice, yea yea I know you will try and beat me later. The rest of the family members just laughed at the ordeal.


After dinner Shepard stepped outside and looked at the sun setting far out on the horizon. Ashley joins Shepard shortly after he walked out with two glasses and a bottle of champagne. She pours the champagne into each of the glasses and hands one to Shepard. She ask so what are we toasting to? Shepard says how about all that were lost over the years? Ashley clings her glass to Shepard's and they both take a drink. More silence followed, but after a while it was Shepard who broke the silence, saying "I am sorry for being a jerk on Horizon" I still beat myself up for not being able to explain the issue better. Ashley smiled and said "No I was too harsh on you," I know that you always do best for everyone, even sacrificing yourself to protect others...even me. By this time Ashley was starting to tear up and Shepard could see it starting to happen and knew what was going to happen. Shepard placed his champagne glass on the nearby table, and the pulled Ashley in. He gave her a tight hug, as her were crisscrossed still holding onto the champagne glass into his chest. He said to her I am here now and will not let go until you are satisfied. She tired to hold back the tears, but could not and let the tears fall into Shepard's pinstriped suit. After a few moments Ashley wiped away the tears and said to Shepard you can let go now. Shepard still holding onto Ashley and jokingly said are you sure soldier? Ashley replied with a slight laugh and said "Yes Sir...Skipper." Shepard and Ashley both turn to see the sun setting on the horizon, followed by a long silence. Shepard jokingly said, "Well this is certainly a better Horizon than the last one." Ashley smiled and said yes, yes it is skipper. A short time later Omi reminder went off, reminding him of a very important meeting he had in a couple of days. Ashley asked what that could be? More information on saving the galaxy Shepard? Shepard replied, "you know I would not have it any other way." Well accept maybe having you fighting along side of me, while saving the galaxy. Ashley smiled and said "anytime skipper,You say 'jump,' I say 'how high.' You tell me to kiss a Turian, I'll ask which cheek." Shepard jokingly said "would you kiss any one I said?" Ashley caught the hint, know she could blame herself for the kissing comment. Ashley leaned into Shepard and slightly tilted her head back, and shared another passionate kiss with Shepard, something they have not done since that night before Ilos. The kiss may have gone on for far too long as Abby interrupted them, stating the Mother would like to see you Ashley. Abby also said Sarah would have a field day if she seen thi....as Ashley cut off Abby and said "Not a Word you hear me." Abby just waved it off, but Sarah overhead Ashley's comment. Sarah seen that Ashley and Shepard were still embraced in each others arms. Sarah was about to comment on the issue as Shepard cut her off, jokingly saying "Bad timing as always, First Joke, then Horizon and now your sisters," Ashley just laughed and said I will get you later Sarah.


As Shepard and Ashley let go of each other, Shepard remembered the time and stated that he will need to leave shortly. As Shepard turned his back to Ashley and start to walk back into the house, Ashley rush into him and hug him from behind. She said in a soft voice "Come back to me skipper." Shepard turned and faced Ashley once again, this time he placed his forehead against hers and said "I plan to." Also before coming here I spoke to Anderson with Admiral Hackett, they have cleared you to join me at anytime, just tell Anderson and he will contact me. Ashley smiled and said anytime Skipper. Ashley was still bothered by what Shepard's current mission might be. She ask him about it before he leaves. Shepard replied that while on Illium he did a few task for Liara to get some more information on the Shadow Broker. I can only guess that she found some more information on the Shadow Broker and would like me to help her with the issue, but that is all I can say. Shepard re-enters the household and thanks the Williams family for the wonderful time. As Shepard leaves the Williams house he waves goodbye to them all, and rushes off to save the galaxy once again.





Well that took longer that I though, hope you all enjoyed it. Also you are all not getting a TL:DR version.


Happy Thanksgiving all.

[AuggyDoggysan]

[V-rex]

You know what's one of the arguments against Ashley that I'm sick of hearing?
The:
"She abandonded her platoonz!!!!11!!!!"
One.
Seriously, first of all its just blatant fishing to try and find another reason that isn't actually there to hate on Ashley and second Ashley does a lot to disprove the idea of her being some coward who just abandons her duty like that.
First of all, we see her in the video sent to the Normandy clearly fighting determinedly in the trenches along with her team, further more while we see her retreating she still happily (indeed determinedly) wants to return back into the fray to continue battling the Geth alongside Shepard.
If she was really abandoning her platoon in cowardice then why would she return into the fray with an even smaller strike team? Wouldn't she be more likely to wuss out like Private Hudson in Aliens?

Plus she demonstrates compassion and respect to the husband of one of the soldiers in her unit.
Then of course there's Virmire where not only does she volunteer to assist the Salarians on Virmire but she is also willing to sacrifice herself for the sake of the mission, to allow Shepard, Kaiden, Kirrahe and his men and everyone else a chance at victory. Above all else that should be evidence of her undying bravery and determination.
Honestly, it really makes me mad when people insult her for being 'wussy' or a 'wimp' or whatever whenever she is brought into combat and demonstrates a few moments of vulnerability within her otherwise capable combat status.
Whatever, Ashley is a badass. Clearly, you don't get named after the greatest B movie action hero of all time without earning some badassery of your own, boomstick for the win.
But, it did give me a moment to think, so without further ado, here's a topic:

Would you like to see Ashley leading a new team in Mass Effect 3?

Like imagine if she has gotten a new platoon under her direct command, all Alliance and maybe even a few Salarians or other races as well, to me I think that would certainly make things more interesting. I mean imagine a DLC where you not only have access to Shepard's crew but also Ashley and her own team.

I reckon it could be cool, what say everyone else?

EDIT:
Also:



'Cause I feel like it

Modifié par V-rex, 26 novembre 2010 - 01:53 .

[Funkcase]

Agreed with every point you made there Rex.

It's the sole survivor background for Ashley, just a huge Geth ambush killed her squad and not a thresher maw. She could have told her squad to fall back, and when she had got safe she probably noticed nobody followed, and that they were probably dead.

Well she should do given her rank, i am suprised she was alone on Horizon.

Modifié par Funkcase, 26 novembre 2010 - 01:49 .

[Lord Zeuss]

How does your whole platoon getting slaughtered equate to you abandoning them? Even the internet's nonsense makes no sense.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

How does your whole platoon getting slaughtered equate to you abandoning them? Even the internet's nonsense makes no sense.

Honestly we just don't have enough details to judge her actions on Eden Prime. Maybe she abandoned her team, maybe she didn't. I personally do not think she did, but we can never know for sure.

[LessThanKate]

V-rex wrote...

You know what's one of the arguments against Ashley that I'm sick of hearing?
The:
"She abandonded her platoonz!!!!11!!!!"
One.
Seriously, first of all its just blatant fishing to try and find another reason that isn't actually there to hate on Ashley and second Ashley does a lot to disprove the idea of her being some coward who just abandons her duty like that.
First of all, we see her in the video sent to the Normandy clearly fighting determinedly in the trenches along with her team, further more while we see her retreating she still happily (indeed determinedly) wants to return back into the fray to continue battling the Geth alongside Shepard.
If she was really abandoning her platoon in cowardice then why would she return into the fray with an even smaller strike team? Wouldn't she be more likely to wuss out like Private Hudson in Aliens?

Plus she demonstrates compassion and respect to the husband of one of the soldiers in her unit.
Then of course there's Virmire where not only does she volunteer to assist the Salarians on Virmire but she is also willing to sacrifice herself for the sake of the mission, to allow Shepard, Kaiden, Kirrahe and his men and everyone else a chance at victory. Above all else that should be evidence of her undying bravery and determination.
Honestly, it really makes me mad when people insult her for being 'wussy' or a 'wimp' or whatever whenever she is brought into combat and demonstrates a few moments of vulnerability within her otherwise capable combat status.
Whatever, Ashley is a badass. Clearly, you don't get named after the greatest B movie action hero of all time without earning some badassery of your own, boomstick for the win.
But, it did give me a moment to think, so without further ado, here's a topic:

Would you like to see Ashley leading a new team in Mass Effect 3?

Like imagine if she has gotten a new platoon under her direct command, all Alliance and maybe even a few Salarians or other races as well, to me I think that would certainly make things more interesting. I mean imagine a DLC where you not only have access to Shepard's crew but also Ashley and her own team.

I reckon it could be cool, what say everyone else?

I hadn't really heard that, Ash being accused of abandoning her platoon. It had never occurred to me. Seriously, girl cannot catch a break! She wouldn't be the last character Shepard finds alone, having lost fellow soldiers, but this is the first time I've heard any said sole survivor get blamed for anything.

I don't know if we were ever given enough information about what happened, but the thought of her just running never crossed my mind. I had always just assumed they were blindsided. They were on a standard mission, guarding the science team, when sentient creatures from hundreds of years ago ambushed them. Can't say I'd blame her for things going downhill from there.

What about when Shepard, Nihlus and Anderson were watching Eden Prime from the ship, and Ashley was telling someone to "get down"? I assumed that was another soldier and she tried to keep things together, but the Geth had the element of surprise. I really doubt she had an every man for himself mentality, but she ran when she realized that things were completely futile.

Once, I made a Shepard that snapped back at Ashley at Eden Prime. When this Shepard got back on the ship, she told Anderson she didn't want her on the ship. The Captain made a VERY stern "It's my ship,", I got chills. He made it very clear that he and Kaiden thought highly of Ashley based on what little they saw, and damn it all, if she's good enough for them, she's good enough for Shepard. I actually made that Shepard go apologize to her after. I just couldn't stay mean, even to experiment with the dialogue XD  

So...I guess ultimately I just don't know, but I didn't see nearly enough to prove she was cowardly. It conflicts with her personality throughout the rest of the game. So I give her the benefit of the doubt. Plus, it...is kind of for the sake of plot anyway, right? I mean, nobody blames Shepard for Jenkins dying. Then again, nobody blames their Shepard for anything, really.

As for her having her own team, I can't really say. I'd like to have her back, first and foremost. I would love nothing more than to have at least one human squadmate that I can be legitimately excited about recruiting and bringing on missions (I do like Zaeed and Kasumi a lot, but they're DLC companions, so there's not quite as much about them, and I haven't the foggiest idea if they're coming back or not. And Jack's growing on me, but...yeah). But Bioware may have more...ambitious plans for the VS, so it's not an outlandish idea.

Ashley did say she's not the same person as before. I just don't have enough to say if this different person is also a leader. Before she seemed accepting of her more...supportive role. Perhaps the loss of Shepard has encouraged her to be even more aggressive and assume more difficult tasks in his/her absence.  

Modifié par LessThanKate, 26 novembre 2010 - 09:52 .

[Funkcase]

LessThanKate wrote...

So...I guess ultimately I just don't know, but I didn't see nearly enough to prove she was cowardly. It conflicts with her personality throughout the rest of the game. So I give her the benefit of the doubt. Plus, it...is kind of for the sake of plot anyway, right? I mean, nobody blames Shepard for Jenkins dying. Then again, nobody blames their Shepard for anything, really.

Yes, this!

Ashley is willing to give her life on Virmire to redeem her family honor, why would she risk making it worse on her family by being a coward on Eden prime? It would make more sense if she gave her life to save her squad than abandon them.
 
I think it went down as I said in my above post. She gave the order to fall back and when she got to whatever place they was to fall back too, she noticed nobody from her squad followed, meaning they are all probably dead.

I honestly think people pick at pathetic reasons to hate Ash, or any character for that matter. You may notice that the characters that get the most stick are love interests? A typical case of ''my girlfriend/boyfriend is better than yours'' I think.

Most of it is just arrogant. I dont understand how people can hate her for being religious. Ash dosent forces it on Shepard, or tells him/her what she believes is right, she even says ''I dont know what God intends'' and she is hesitant to mention her beliefs to Shepard, she is hardly shoving it down Shepards throat. She dosent even talk about it much, i think twice, when she tell Shep about it, and when Shep brings it up regarding her distrust of Aliens ''Ash you believe in god''
 
I find it ironic that her having faith that there is a afterlife is considered so wrong, but those that oppose her beliefs think that what they believe (that there is no afterlife) is right. Cant they accept that she has a different look on life and accept it?

Also do these people know lose? Ashley lost her father, the man who helped shape her into the women she is, someone she respected and loved. Why should she not have faith that she will one day see him again? What is so wrong about that? I have lost many friends and family growing up a military brat, I would find comfort in the thought that one day I may see them again, and I aint even religious.

She is also in the military, doing a job where her closest friends could be (and have been) butchered, and so could she any day. When danger lurks around every corner it's understandable for someone to turn to religon.

We could also look at convicts, they have nothing else to live for, so alot of them turn to god hoping to redeem there crimes. Some military personal feel gult over the taking of life, so some of them turn to god.

[LessThanKate]

Indeed. That's probably why abandonment never occurred to me. I tried to pay attention to her motives throughout the game. And whatever happened, she surely felt bad about it. She said she was used to losing friends, but was distraught about losing her whole unit. It's obviously not something that has happened to her before.

I actually have a friend in military training, and he told me another friends shared some carefully chosen passages from the Bible, and that they helped him get through the punishment. And I knew he wasn't a particularly spiritual man before. I figure these situations are extremely strenuous, it breaks some people. Things like family and faith are...very tangible, it's easy to understand why people use them to help get through hardship.

...That's kind of why I always make my Shepards say "You know that old saw about not finding atheists in a foxhole? I've been in a lot of foxholes." Not that all soldiers are religious, but I like to imagine they want, or need, something to keep pushing them. Especially an Earthborn or Colonist, who has no family to fight for. And because fighting for the greater good...just isn't enough to push a normal person. Granted, Shepard isn't exactly normal, but...he/she is still human. There has to be more. For me, saying that line, having those intimate kinds of talks with the characters, helps reassure me that Shepard is human.

Really, I just don't see why it's a big deal. Every last thing, faith, family, sexual orientation, all make up a character. I don't see why people should be open to certain aspects, but be hush-hush about other things.

I think what it is is she's too close to normal. Someone brought a very similar point on the Kaiden thread, she's just not...out there enough for some people. Added with her blunt nature and she might makes some players uncomfortable...and well, considering she's a video game character, her being only reasonably attractive probably causes some players to ignore her in favor of someone more...extreme or exotic. Fair enough.

Still, it seems funny to me. An alien talks about religion, it's fascinating, a foreign mythology. But a regular humans talks about God apparently needs to keep it to herself. I understand the other side of it, most of the alien characters are very interesting and engaging. However, it's the human like qualities that help us get to know them. They shouldn't be brushed to the side just because they're seemingly plain. I really thought Ash was going to bore me to death with paranoia and predjudice at first, but I was wrong.

And while I do see the gap between like a dislike is with love interest characters (well, excluding Garrus...everybody loves Garrus, heh) I don't see why there needs to be a divide. I mean, I'm not particularly interested in romancing Liara, Tali or Thane, but I still appreciate them as characters.

Modifié par LessThanKate, 27 novembre 2010 - 12:13 .

[Lord Zeuss]

*Edit: No.*

Modifié par Lord Zeuss, 28 novembre 2010 - 01:24 .

[Lord Zeuss]

I feel like we need this picture on the page.

[Raanz]

V-Rex, nice motivational poster. Carry on.

[LessThanKate]

Come on now, got to keep this thread moving. We're behind enough as it is! XD

It IS a good motivational poster, yeah. If nothing else, it's a nice break from all the "Dat mASS!" jokes. I don't even have to look to know there must be a lot.

...I would start pushing "Dat Ash!", but somehow I doubt that would catch on. Just a thought though; most females in this series have the same general body model, but character wise, it makes sense for hers to be the most toned. Something to think about when choosing a love interest.

Hmm...not sure why I'm most comfortable with her when talking about attractiveness in female characters. Guess I just find her to be the...warmest?

Modifié par LessThanKate, 30 novembre 2010 - 09:08 .

[Funkcase]

LessThanKate wrote...

Hmm...not sure why I'm most comfortable with her when talking about attractiveness in female characters. Guess I just find her to be the...warmest?

Could be. she is pretty realistic compared to most characters, we learn alot about her interest, family, strengths and flaws, most other characters we just learn about there problems and and that's it. Shes also a natural beauty, for example: Miranda looks stunning, but she aint natural, Ashleys beauty is natural. Some people (like myself)  may find natural beauty more attractive. Maybe it's how the whole romance was done, Ash was one of the few love interests where I felt like Shepard wasn't just after sex, he seemed to come across like there was a real connection between the two, that he had real strong feelings for Ash. Also if FemShep there can be a close friendship, as Ash still speaks to FemShep alot.

[Lord Zeuss]

Funkcase wrote...

LessThanKate wrote...

Hmm...not sure why I'm most comfortable with her when talking about attractiveness in female characters. Guess I just find her to be the...warmest?

Could be. she is pretty realistic compared to most characters, we learn alot about her interest, family, strengths and flaws, most other characters we just learn about there problems and and that's it. Shes also a natural beauty, for example: Miranda looks stunning, but she aint natural, Ashleys beauty is natural. Some people (like myself)  may find natural beauty more attractive. Maybe it's how the whole romance was done, Ash was one of the few love interests where I felt like Shepard wasn't just after sex, he seemed to come across like there was a real connection between the two, that he had real strong feelings for Ash. Also if FemShep there can be a close friendship, as Ash still speaks to FemShep alot.

I hear you, both! One of the main reasons I initially liked Ash so much (and still a primary factor) is precisely that she is not exotic, unfamiliar, or so far removed from normalcy that relatability is zip or close to it. Of course, these are all the reasons people spout for the argument "humanz is BORRRRING zomg GarrusLiaraTHAAAAAAAANE!" Not to knock on any of those characters, but the whole "allure of the unfamiliar and exotic" is wholly un-alluring to me. That's just me, but there it is.

I enjoy looking into fantastical settings and finding normaly, relatable people in them, people with whom I can identify. Ash is in just about every way as normal a person as one could expect to find. She comes from a big family (of course, I struggle not put " " around big, since my definition of "big" is *somewhat* slanted:lol:) and has the not-so-perfect sibling relationship histories to prove it, she doesn't go overboard on makeup or have any cosmetic enhancements that we know of (and she doesn't need them, either:happy:), she has an opinion about everything that not everyone's going to agree with, and she kicks serious ass without pseudo-science/pseudo-magical upgrades. Sure, I hear the arguments; that humans are boring, that everyone already knows about normal people, that soldiers are somehow of lesser ability and/or intelligence than biotic/techs or combination thereof. Opinions all.

People who feel that way are certainly welcome to their opinions. Personally, I find her normalcy to be most attractive of all, because it's something that's sorely missing in Mass Effect, especially in the second installment which has introduced us to new heights of stylization in the name of coolness. I'm not saying people are wrong for liking snazzy alien characters or exaggerated physiology, but me, I go for something a little more grounded and a little more down-to-earth.

I go for Ash.

[LessThanKate]

I'm actually a big fan of Garrus, too...which seems to be an odd combination to most. Don't get why, they actually have a few things in common. And I have love in my heart for many characters, I don't like the feeling that I have to be in one boat or the other.

You know, I was also in that school of thinking for a while, that the alien characters were automatically more interesting. Truthfully, I think that holds up more in the sequel...not completely, but for the most part...yeah. Still, I warmed up to Ashley (and Kaiden) through new game-pluses and now I don't even know why I thought the way I did before. Just goes to show you shouldn't take people's opinions, even the majority's, on anything more than face value. You have to form one of your own.

Agreed on the normalcy. Much as I enjoy learning about the aliens and their ways of life (amazing how Bioware gives us a lot of information yet I am left wanting more), it's nice to have a character I can... touch base with. Like I need a break from the foreign information... which is somewhat ironic, considering the alien societies all have some roots in humans ones ("turian" probably comes from the word "centurion", asari societies are similar to Mediterranean city-states, etc). But it can be overwhelming and Ashley brought a sense of familiarity.

I have sometimes wondered...if maybe the aliens in these games were not as interesting--both in terms of aesthetic and contextual appeal--maybe Ashley would have been more popular? Not that she's less interesting, but somehow I can't help but think people wouldn't care so much that she didn't trust turians if they looked more like...I don't know, the creature from "Alien"? XD

Modifié par LessThanKate, 30 novembre 2010 - 07:57 .

[DigitalFallout]

I agree with you all. I believe if Ash was a Asari or female Turian she would probabaly be the most poular character in Mass effect or at least one of the top three.

Modifié par DigitalFallout, 30 novembre 2010 - 09:38 .

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

DigitalFallout wrote...

I agree with you all. I believe if Ash was a Asari or female Turian she would probabaly be the most poular character in Mass effect or at least one of the top three.

Gross.

[Telemachus78]

LessThanKate wrote...


I have sometimes wondered...if maybe the aliens in these games were not as interesting--both in terms of aesthetic and contextual appeal--maybe Ashley would have been more popular? Not that she's less interesting, but somehow I can't help but think people wouldn't care so much that she didn't trust turians if they looked more like...I don't know, the creature from "Alien"? XD

The Turians look kinda mistrustful thou and in the first scene in ME1 Sheperd can be made to seem very mistrustful of Nilus. Also the General that inspects your ship is very mistrustful of turians. I think in it is kinda like what Ash says that you can not depend on allies being allies forever. Like the Russians in WWII

[Batlass8]

My general thoughts:

1. Wow! It's been a while since I posted here.

2. As someone who self-identifies as religious, Ash's also-religiousness was a nice surprise. And, quite honestly, it was one of the things that I liked best about her on my first playthrough. It was pretty much as though I was just happy that Bioware didn't decide "Oh, humans have discovered aliens, so we don't need religion anymore."

3. My favorite thing about the Ash relationship was how it snuck up on you...much quieter than Kaidan's, kind of a pleasant surprise when my canon!Shep realized "Hey, I think she might be into me...Hey, I think I might be into her too..." It feels more natural. I'm very fond of Liara, I think her whole earnest naive bookworm persona is really adorable, but she suddenly comes on to you from out of left field...canon!Shep was all like, "So why don't you tell me more about you?" and suddenly she was "If you'd like me to talk about my interests, then tell me about yourself!" canon!Shep and I were both VERY confused.

4. Ash is worth it.

Edited for spelling...don't you judge me!

Modifié par Batlass8, 01 décembre 2010 - 01:01 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I really loved how the romance just flowed and was so natural.

Also for me it fit best with my Ruthless Vanguard.
He hated being called the Butcher of Torfan, and being treated like a monster by people in the Alliance.
Ash not treating him like a person really was nice, plus he likes girls that are up front.

Too bad he got REALLY angry on Horizon, the email helped but for a long a time he simply charged and beat people with his shotgun to release his anger.

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 01 décembre 2010 - 01:05 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I'm not sure if it was "normalcy" or not that drew me to Ashley. I tend to be somebody comfortable with more familiar things but the other romance storylines that appealed to me in Mass Effect weren't the most normal ones.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 01 décembre 2010 - 01:18 .

[Batlass8]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I'm not sure if it was "normalcy" or not that drew me to Ashley. I tend to be somebody comfortable with more familiar things but the other romance storylines that appealed to me in Mass Effect weren't the most normal

For me the "normalcy" of Ash's storyline was that I felt like you got to be friends first and then transitioned into something more than.  It...made sense?  Don't get me wrong, there are other LI storylines that make sense too (I'm looking at Miranda here, mostly because as an older sister, I would take a long, hard look at the guy who dropped everything to help me protect my little sibling(s)) but Ash's feels the slowest, and thus the most...for lack of a better word...normal.

Edited: Damn you, spelling!

Modifié par Batlass8, 01 décembre 2010 - 02:29 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

To be honest I think I had already sort of had the intention to go with Ash before I'd even got the game. I knew that there was a human and a blue alien love interest for the male character and I think I'd tentatively decided to probably go with the human because she seemed to have gotten a little less press attention beforehand, at least from what I could tell. Once I got to know her in the game though, it seemed like an exceptionally good choice for me because I ended up liking her a lot.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 01 décembre 2010 - 01:24 .