DWH1982 wrote...
Which is sad, given that I think her personality is one of the most attractive things about her.
I think she's more than reasonably attractive on the physical side of things. But I think there's something especially attractive about a woman who knows how to take charge of a situation and who is willing to express her opinion.
The hopeful in me says right on. The cynic in me says most people who play this game apparently translate that to, "b*tch".
As for level of attractiveness...how do I put this, Ash seems...hot in a gettable way. Like she could be your friend's sister or something. At least...good looking, but not in an intimidating sort of way.
To reiterate, that's part of why I like her. Her hotness is not shoved in your face, and that's usually the way it is in games.
Lord Zeuss wrote...
I do not condone in any way, shape or
form the removal of Ashley and Kaidan from their already extremely
limited role in ME2. I am opposed to them losing their sole moment of
positive screen time.
You know, I had just assumed the "interactive comic" was before the original opening bits. Apparently that's not the case....
I mean, I get it, but I don't like it. I've developed a fear that a new crop of otherwise positive fans will show up, wondering who that crazy person on Virmire was and why they were so mad. Of course...even a lot of people who have played the first game don't give the VS much cedit, so...maybe it's a moot point.
I'm not a PC person, and my XBox 360 is refurbished and runs pretty loud. Plus there's the convenience of one disk instead of two on the PS3. I wasn't patient with Mass Effect like I was for Dragon Age; I wasn't going to wait for a deal, I had to have it. I wanted the sequel so badly because I had finally given the original game that chance. Even the first one is still fairly new to me, I have fond memories and I may very well play it again sometime. There's a certain feeling...that spirit of new adventure looming, gets me excited. So had I less information I could have been waiting on the PS3 version, but I'm glad I didn't. I'm curious about some of the differences but...not on missing out on a large part of the experience, and that includes Ash.
DWH1982 wrote...
I think Bioware might be running into
franchise problems. They've got a great universe here that offers a lot
of potential for expansion - but this conflicts with the original intent
of giving players as much freedom as possible to shape the universe and
create their own canon.
I see examples of this elsewhere, not
just with the VS. For example, I understand that the ME comic strip that
ran (is running?) in USA Today has Udina on the Council. This is news
to me, as I remember putting Anderson on the Council, and enjoying the
look on Udina's face when I did it. I'm not really following the USA
Today comic, but has Udina's position ever been explained for those of
us who made a different choice?
I have concerns about the movie
that is in the works. I can't help but wonder what ME: The Movie will
mean for Ash and Alenko.
...Does anyone even put Udina on the Council? I don't quite hate the guy, but...even my Renegade always goes with Anderson. Somebody working there must have an odd sense of humor...
As for the movie, we don't even know if it's going to be involving Shepard at all, so I think it's too soon to say what it might do for Ashley/Kaiden. I'm sure if it were just a remake of the games, though, they'd get the shaft. Considering how bad movies based on games tend to be, I wouldn't be surprised if movie!Ash's entire identity were based on racism. Then all the trolls could swarm saying that somehow proves everything they said about her before.
Really...hard for me not to be cynical on that, I'm sorry. Another part of me thinks "Mass Effect is a terrific series! How badly could they mess it up?" But then...that's what I thought about The Last Airbender XD
Brodyaha wrote...
"Ashley could be hotter?"
Did I REALLY just see a thread with this title in the forum? :/
*goes to wash eyes with bleach*
Inner feminist rage...
rising...
Seriously, why must they pick on her, of all the girls? I don't understand.
*sighs* I am so totally going to regret posting there...but it really bugs me is the implication that the other girls are more attractive, without argument, and Ash only wins people over with her personality.
...Not that I don't like her personality, but...well, it's just rather presumptuous to say a girl with no hair and one with a face you never see are obviously prettier.
V-rex wrote...
Point being to Ashley this is all new.
She's seeing sights she's never seen before, floating jellyfish, big
four legged elcor and little insect creatures. Ashley has never had
much, if any, real contact with aliens before so to her this would be
very strange and confusing. She wasn't saying it out of racial hate, she
was saying it matter of factly because they really do look like
animals.
That said, on many occassions she is able to work with
aliens effectively and even think of them on terms of being equals. So
she hardly thinks of aliens as essentially equal to animals.
It's
not hard to believe that Ashley might have difficulty picking out the
various strange creatures from animal species right off the bat, and it
certainly isn't drowning in hatred to make that connection.
The whole post brought up some very good points, thank you. Makes me think...the judgments some fans make on Ashley always seem to come from an emotional standpoint, never really a practical or military one. What you said about new sights and beings, it's perfectly reasonable that someone be uneasy, maybe say something that might seem otherwise harsh, like the animals thing. But people seem to really like all the aliens, and, based on emotions and without any consideration to any other perspective but their own, assume it to be an attack.
...Hate to bring this mess up again, but the whole Wrex thing fits my point best, I think. Never mind the fact that she, a soldier, was ordered to neutralize a possible threat when it manifested, but the anger comes from the actions of the
subordinate. Wouldn't it make more sense to direct furstration at the person in charge? But nooo, she killed him, so she and she alone is the racist cow who's at fault for everything.
I apologize for yet another wall of text...really should be more sporadic. Not sure why I save it all like this. Then again, with all the misunderstandings and layers to Ashley...there's a lot to discuss, and I prefer it that way.
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