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[ADLegend21]

jlb524 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

 and possibly her being pregnant witha malesheps child? Because I doubt Shep had a drawn of condoms on a military vessel.

*delurks*  Noooooooo!

*relurks*

Pacifien wrote...

Which is why smart women like Ashley do not rely on men for this.

I agree with what you said Paci, which is why I put possibly, I think it'd draw suspicion if ashley or Shepard bought protection while on duty since there's areg against fratenization on the same vessel.

@jlb- I read that with Darth vader's voice in my head

[jlb524]

ADLegend21 wrote...

I agree with what you said Paci, which is why I put possibly, I think it'd draw suspicion if ashley or Shepard bought protection while on duty since there's areg against fratenization on the same vessel.

I'm betting there are better forms of birth control in the nice happy Mass Effect future.

ADLegend21 wrote...
@jlb- I read that with Darth vader's voice in my head

Good, I said it in that voice.

[DWH1982]

Pacifien wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
also some message trheads between her and her family and possibly her being pregnant witha malesheps child? Because I doubt Shep had a drawn of condoms on a military vessel.

Which is why smart women like Ashley do not rely on men for this.

I wonder if perhaps a smart, 22nd century military force that fields ships with combined male/female crewmembers might just require birth control shots.  Possibly for both genders, if technology allows.

There are the regs against fraternization, but no doubt everyone realizes that they're going to be violated from time to time.  So, I could see the Alliance taking extra precautions to ensure that, say, there are no unexpected pregnancies on a military vessile during a crisis or time of war.

On the other hand, Kasumi comments on how one of the girls in navigation "thinks she might be pregnant."  So, either Cerberus doesn't take the precautions, or they simply aren't common everywhere.

Back on topic - while I'm curious to know what Ashley would be like as a mother, I'm not sure it's a plot twist I'd like to see during one of the games.

Modifié par DWH1982, 29 décembre 2010 - 01:41 .

[Chignon]

Brodyaha wrote...

I love Ashley because she can be funny and witty without being disrespectful.  She can dance but not show off.  She is gorgeous but has realistic proportions compared to characters like Miranda or Samara.  She is religious without being apologetic about it.  And she is capable of letting loose, but still remaining respectable like the marine she is.

You perfectly summed up all the reasons why I love Ash, Brody.

[Badpie]

ADLegend21 wrote...

DWH1982 wrote...

I think maybe this has been discussed in here before, but... if she did have one, what do you guys think should be in Ashley's Shadow Broker dossier?

Something about what she and shepard were up to during the month before the collector attack, how she was during the 2 years following the attack and before Mass effect 2 and what she was doing when shepard resurfaced before Horizon. also some message trheads between her and her family and possibly her being pregnant witha malesheps child? Because I doubt Shep had a drawn of condoms on a military vessel.

Ashley is a mid twenties sexually active woman with a high risk job. I'm sure she's on some type of birth control. .

Also, the ship is not a freakin' police state.  Nobody is snooping in someone's locker to see if they have condoms. And I'm sure lots of fraternization goes on quietly and most of the time people kind of look the other way.  Not to mention grown ups have lives outside of the ship - shore leave, etc.

I don't  think that birth control would ever be something "Alliance" or "Cerberus."  That's creepy to the max.  Like in real life, every woman makes her own decisions about her own body regarding her birth control or no birth control or what have you.  Anything else would be skeevy.

Modifié par Badpie, 29 décembre 2010 - 02:56 .

[Errol Dnamyx]

It's a nice 'what if' scenario, but I think their relationship is interesting enough as it is. When the whole reaper business is over however...

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 29 décembre 2010 - 11:18 .

[Lord Zeuss]

 


Moving on...

[FireEye]

From the books, birth control is the norm among humans (that is, it seems that people are expected to be on it as a cultural norm - some people probably are not, but even so).  Personally, I would suspect it to be mandatory, probably something semi-permanent in with the gene mods, among military personnel (men and women) and only retracted under special circumstances, such as a planned pregnancy for planned family purposes (with paperwork, lots of paperwork and waivers and things).

But...really, even if I'm wrong about the mandatory, I doubt Ashley would have gotten pregnant.  I think she's too career savvy for that.  Better than the best, if only to avoid suspicion and all of that.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

Modifié par FireEye, 29 décembre 2010 - 03:05 .

[Xilizhra]

I don't think that birth control would ever be something "Alliance" or "Cerberus." That's creepy to the max. Like in real life, every woman makes her own decisions about her own body regarding her birth control or no birth control or what have you. Anything else would be skeevy.

Both have done worse, especially if the Alliance is complicit in Cerberus' current actions. I wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus placed its female employees on birth control without their knowledge, even.

[Lord Zeuss]

*Moving on*.



Frankly, I don't think it's our business to speculate what Ashley "almost" did. Whatever it was, she chose not to disclose it, and if it's anywhere near as sensitive as some of the things people have suggested (all pure supposition, I might add), then that gosh-awful conversation on Horizon was not an appropriate place to bring it up.



And can we stay on-topic about Ash, please? This birth control subject is creepifying the thread big-time.

[Cossack72]

Xilizhra wrote...

I don't think that birth control would ever be something "Alliance" or "Cerberus." That's creepy to the max. Like in real life, every woman makes her own decisions about her own body regarding her birth control or no birth control or what have you. Anything else would be skeevy.

Both have done worse, especially if the Alliance is complicit in Cerberus' current actions. I wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus placed its female employees on birth control without their knowledge, even.

"One of the girls in navigation thinks she might be pregnant. Even aboard a Cerberus vessel life finds a way"



Plus, it is "the future." There are probably some nonchalant birth control pills/options out there for anyone; Military or civilian.

On-topic: I'd love to see Shepard take Ash to Samesh's restaurant for a dinner

Modifié par Cossack72, 29 décembre 2010 - 05:14 .

[Badpie]

FireEye wrote...

From the books, birth control is the norm among humans (that is, it seems that people are expected to be on it as a cultural norm - some people probably are not, but even so).  Personally, I would suspect it to be mandatory, probably something semi-permanent in with the gene mods, among military personnel (men and women) and only retracted under special circumstances, such as a planned pregnancy for planned family purposes (with paperwork, lots of paperwork and waivers and things).

But...really, even if I'm wrong about the mandatory, I doubt Ashley would have gotten pregnant.  I think she's too career savvy for that.  Better than the best, if only to avoid suspicion and all of that.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

They would never be able to get away with forcibly putting their employees on birth control.  It's a basic violation of human rights.

As for Ash, like you said she's got other plans than being a mother so I'd be real disappointed if the next time we meet her she says "oh by the way you have a kid."  It just doesn't make sense.  Also, don't forget since they're tending to bleed Ash and Kaidan into the same situations, this would be impossible.

As for what she "almost" did, clearly it was something she felt she wouldn't have done normally.  Ash doesn't strike me as the type to ever kill herself - she could never be that selfish - but she does strike me as the type to have gone down a bit of a dark path for awhile, maybe having a moment of rock bottom before realizing she needed help or what have you.  The "I almost" statement was a moment where she wanted to be too familiar with him, then realized they weren't familiar anymore.   If anything I'd say it was something like "I almost went crazy after I lost you" or something.  But she had to maintain her already conflicted emotions.

Modifié par Badpie, 29 décembre 2010 - 06:58 .

[JamieCOTC]

DWH1982 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

One thing I just now thought of that surprises me is that neither Virmire Survivor has an information terminal in LotSB.

I was suprised to. Even though TIM said their files was suprisingly well classified the Shadow broker already got transmissions from Admiral Hackett so why couldn't he or Liara dig up somehting on Ashley or Kaidan?

I think maybe this has been discussed in here before, but... if she did have one, what do you guys think should be in Ashley's Shadow Broker dossier?

I guess maybe extranet searches on Shepard's whereabouts, what's he's up to, and his connection to Cerberus. Also, correspondence with one or more of her sisters.

The dossier also could have hinted (through e-mail correspondence or whatever) at what she was referring to in the Horizon scene when she said that she "almost" did something when she thought Shepard was dead.  I've seen speculation that ranges from almost killing herself to almost losing faith to almost sleeping with another guy.

I suspect Ash had a crisis of faith when Shep died.  Shep's death was fairly pointless.  S/he might as well have been run over by a car.  Although there are no specifics for Ashley, most popular fiction paint God fearing folk to be Calvinistic, everything happens for a reason.  Shepard’s death and resurrection, (and teaming up w/ a terrorist organization), would be enough to throw a kink into Ash’s preconceptions of a grand design and hence give her pause on such matters.   I’d hope her faith would come up in ME3 or better yet a DLC.  Not that I want a theological dissertation in my Mass Effect, but a line or two would be nice. 

Anyway, I think this is my first time posting here.  Ash wasn’t a LI, but I enjoyed talking w/ her the most in ME1 as her and Shep’s dialogue seemed more like a conversation than a Q&A.  I know she asks Shep a couple of questions about her own background, which was refreshing. 

Dismissed … Chief.
Ma’am. 

[DWH1982]

Badpie wrote...

FireEye wrote...

From the books, birth control is the norm among humans (that is, it seems that people are expected to be on it as a cultural norm - some people probably are not, but even so).  Personally, I would suspect it to be mandatory, probably something semi-permanent in with the gene mods, among military personnel (men and women) and only retracted under special circumstances, such as a planned pregnancy for planned family purposes (with paperwork, lots of paperwork and waivers and things).

But...really, even if I'm wrong about the mandatory, I doubt Ashley would have gotten pregnant.  I think she's too career savvy for that.  Better than the best, if only to avoid suspicion and all of that.  ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png

They would never be able to get away with forcibly putting their employees on birth control.  It's a basic violation of human rights.

As for Ash, like you said she's got other plans than being a mother so I'd be real disappointed if the next time we meet her she says "oh by the way you have a kid."  It just doesn't make sense.  Also, don't forget since they're tending to bleed Ash and Kaidan into the same situations, this would be impossible.


As for what she "almost" did, clearly it was something she felt she wouldn't have done normally.  Ash doesn't strike me as the type to ever kill herself - she could never be that selfish - but she does strike me as the type to have gone down a bit of a dark path for awhile, maybe having a moment of rock bottom before realizing she needed help or what have you.  The "I almost" statement was a moment where she wanted to be too familiar with him, then realized they weren't familiar anymore.   If anything I'd say it was something like "I almost went crazy after I lost you" or something.  But she had to maintain her already conflicted emotions.

This is why I hope Ash is a full squad member in ME3: There really need to be some long, in depth conversations between her and Shepard.  Especially if Ashley was a LI.

I just hope they get the balance right.  It doesn't seem like Shepard should be able to regain Ashley's trust immediately.  But it shouldn't be set up so that he can only regain it late in the game, either... there needs to be more time for the two to be reconciled and really talk about some of the things they need to talk about.

JamieCOTC wrote...
 
Anyway, I think this is my first time posting here.  Ash wasn’t a LI, but I enjoyed talking w/ her the most in ME1 as her and Shep’s dialogue seemed more like a conversation than a Q&A.  I know she asks Shep a couple of questions about her own background, which was refreshing. 

Dismissed … Chief.
Ma’am. 

Thanks for your input Jamie!  I agree with you, I think Ash had some of the best dialogue in ME1. 

Modifié par DWH1982, 29 décembre 2010 - 10:00 .

[Badpie]

DWH1982 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...
 
Anyway, I think this is my first time posting here.  Ash wasn’t a LI, but I enjoyed talking w/ her the most in ME1 as her and Shep’s dialogue seemed more like a conversation than a Q&A.  I know she asks Shep a couple of questions about her own background, which was refreshing. 

Dismissed … Chief.
Ma’am. 

Thanks for your input Jamie!  I agree with you, I think Ash had some of the best dialogue in ME1. 

Word.

[jamie94]

http://social.biowar...8/index/5582265 hey guys this is my post about an Ash character building scene i think its good so can you show some support please. also i cant link on here so could someone do that bit for me

[DWH1982]

jamie94 wrote...

http://social.biowar...8/index/5582265 hey guys this is my post about an Ash character building scene i think its good so can you show some support please. also i cant link on here so could someone do that bit for me

Thanks for posting the link.  I left a comment.

I agree, it would be nice to see some kind of a scene to shore things up/further develop the relationship with Ash. Maybe we can get something in a VS DLC.

[ADLegend21]

I still have hope for the VS DLC!!! I want some shot of Happy Ashley with my Shepards.

[Dave of Canada]

It's been hinted that ME2 companions will stick around in ME3 on Christina Norman's twitter, how would you feel if Ash was left out?

[Sinapus]

Dave of Canada wrote...

It's been hinted that ME2 companions will stick around in ME3 on Christina Norman's twitter, how would you feel if Ash was left out?

Nooooo!!!!

Followed by:

Khaaaaaaaan!!!

[ADLegend21]

Dave of Canada wrote...

It's been hinted that ME2 companions will stick around in ME3 on Christina Norman's twitter, how would you feel if Ash was left out?

................*starts riot*

[Errol Dnamyx]

Dave of Canada wrote...

It's been hinted that ME2 companions will stick around in ME3 on Christina Norman's twitter, how would you feel if Ash was left out?

And I don't believe that every ME2 squadmate will stay with Shepard throughout ME3. Maybe only the romanceable ones...

[jamie94]

                            
:alien::alien::alien::alien::alien:

well i would be pissed off if she wasnt included. And DWH cheers mate i read it good help man

[Xilizhra]

I'd actually be rather interested if she turned into an adversary in ME3; an Alliance operative charged with hunting you down. It'd make the romance interesting, certainly, especially if you found a new LI...