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The 'official' Ashley Williams support thread 1.1


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Melindil wrote...

So, I'm curious. When it comes to poetry, do you think Ash has a favorite type? For example, would she prefer romantic to postmodern or does she love all poetry equally? I'm working on an Ash one-shot and, when I made the decision to include some Keats in the fic, I wondered at this myself.


She always struck me as the classics kind of gal.  Not especially sappy romantic poetry.  I'm thinking stuff like Tennyson, Whitman, Robert Frost even.  I can see her getting into someone like Rilke too.

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Rilke's an interesting choice, but I definitely see it.

Given her appreciation for Tennyson, I felt like she might have some interest in romantic poets like Keats, especially considering the influence that they had on Tennyson's own work.

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Melindil wrote...

Rilke's an interesting choice, but I definitely see it.

Given her appreciation for Tennyson, I felt like she might have some interest in romantic poets like Keats, especially considering the influence that they had on Tennyson's own work.


I think she like romantic poets in the grand sense, like epic romantic language like those.  But not sappy love poems.  :)

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Badpie wrote...

 Ash pic.  <3


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I'm just going to imagine that she's wearing one of Shepards shirts = + 300 awesome points for the pic.^_^

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Badpie wrote...

Melindil wrote...

Rilke's an interesting choice, but I definitely see it.

Given her appreciation for Tennyson, I felt like she might have some interest in romantic poets like Keats, especially considering the influence that they had on Tennyson's own work.


I think she like romantic poets in the grand sense, like epic romantic language like those.  But not sappy love poems.  :)

Ah, then we are absolutely in agreement; that's totally what I meant by "romantic" in my initial post.  :D  I can't see her really liking love poems at all.

Modifié par Melindil, 28 janvier 2011 - 08:53 .


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Found this one and I love it.


Hey, that's really nice. And one I haven't seen before, which is rare.

I'm curious, though...every (positive) fanart involving Ash, in particular couple stuff, uses the default Shepard. Then again, most of the stuff involving a male Shepard uses the default. I don't know..."Sheploo" is handsome and all, but...I prefer that personal touch.

As for poetry she might prfer...I think she'd favor more classical stuff, poems that follow a certain structure. After all, poetry without form is like tennis without a net!

Modifié par LessThanKate, 28 janvier 2011 - 09:05 .


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@Errol I love awesome points! Thanks! And yes it's totally a Shepard shirt. They came home from a fancy party or something and she's just relaxing in it. What is it about women lounging in men's dress shirts that's so awesome?

@Lessthankate.  I suppose it's the accessibility thing.  Only one person will have the custom Shepard that looked exactly like that, yet there are lots of folks who play the default Shep.  I'm one of them, so I enjoy the Sheploo fanart as well, but I can understand where you're coming from.  

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I don't hate it or anything, I just...find it odd seeing all the different femSheps I see. Then again, a lot of them are similar in...other ways. I just like a little variety, is all.



But is has Ash, and I've no right to be picky XD

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LessThanKate wrote...

I don't hate it or anything, I just...find it odd seeing all the different femSheps I see. Then again, a lot of them are similar in...other ways. I just like a little variety, is all.

But is has Ash, and I've no right to be picky XD


Hm. Maybe it has to do with the fact that there never really was a default femshep that they marketed.  I mean there is one, but does anyone actually use it?  I feel like all femsheps are custom.  I would have liked to have seen their marketing of a default femshep a little more.

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Badpie wrote...

LessThanKate wrote...

I don't hate it or anything, I just...find it odd seeing all the different femSheps I see. Then again, a lot of them are similar in...other ways. I just like a little variety, is all.

But is has Ash, and I've no right to be picky XD


Hm. Maybe it has to do with the fact that there never really was a default femshep that they marketed.  I mean there is one, but does anyone actually use it?  I feel like all femsheps are custom.  I would have liked to have seen their marketing of a default femshep a little more.


I actually accidentally switched my custom femshep from ME1 to default femshep in ME2.  I think I like default femshep better.

To keep this on-topic: Ash hug!

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Badpie and Bat good pics.

Badpie it's the intimacy and comfort combined with the lingering scent that makes the shirt great.

Also I've read some of your work you can set the stage better than that, what were they doing?

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Three hours without Ash? Too long, I say!



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Heh, that's pretty cute, Batlass. At this point, in replays of ME2, I'm just happy to see Ash (and Kaiden) again...even if it is short and...a bit unpleasant. A lot of people get flat out angry or accuse them of being cold, but...you only hurt the ones you love?



As for that picture of her with Joker...I like that artist. She seems to generally like/respect all the characters, and that makes me happy. It's hard for me to envision "crack couples" since all romantic energy is focused on Shepard...or really the PC in general, as the case seems to be with Bioware games...but I suppose it's feasible. At least with Joker there could be a good back and forth. Only non-Shepard person I've ever seen her paired with is Jacob and...he's nice, but...yeah, not quite Ash-worthy.

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@Kate: That picture is my favorite Ash-hug.  Not necessarily because I see her and Joker as a great couple (Ash and Shep are my OTP), but because it is so frakking adorable.  I mean, she's wearing his hat! :wub: (However, my canon fem!Shep would invent a time machine for the sole purpose of leaving Ash on Virmire if she ever thought Williams was putting the moves on Joker...)

I go back and forth on my feelings about Virmire.  On the one hand, it's in-character.  Ash wouldn't buy Shep's sudden 180, and she wouldn't leave her place with the Alliance and follow him on a whim.  On the other hand, I don't think she'd jump to call him a traitor either, especially since she grew up in a blacklisted family.  And...that terrible dialogue.  Although I do love that one line "I loved you."  My canon!Shep always stops listening to what she's saying at that point because he's hung up on the fact that she loved him.  As in no longer loves.  At least that's what I tell myself to explain his terrible dialogue...:(

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Jhon Flash wrote...

Badpie and Bat good pics.
Badpie it's the intimacy and comfort combined with the lingering scent that makes the shirt great.
Also I've read some of your work you can set the stage better than that, what were they doing?


I'm thinking it was after getting home, during conversation, just a comfortable change into his shirt while they talked.  Then she lounged like that....

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 Although I do love that one line "I loved you."  My canon!Shep always stops listening to what she's saying at that point because he's hung up on the fact that she loved him.  As in no longer loves.  At least that's what I tell myself to explain his terrible dialogue...:(


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True enough, but that doesn't mean she might not still love him. After all she sent that email and called him 'Skipper' again, I personally percieve this as feelings waiting to see is said feelings resurface over time. She loved him back then, there's no reason to imagine why she wouldn't still love him in her own way.
At least I sure as hell hope so
That's why my Canon Shepard holds out hope, especially after the email. Hence why he told Kelly Chambers that he still certainly did have very strong feelings for Ashley. Because Ash is worth it:D

Also, I personally put the blame on the terrible Horizon dialogue on Shepard's end as being the result of too many Collector Beams to the head.

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Batlass8 wrote...
 Although I do love that one line "I loved you."  My canon!Shep always stops listening to what she's saying at that point because he's hung up on the fact that she loved him.  As in no longer loves.  At least that's what I tell myself to explain his terrible dialogue...:(

I understand the past tense. To her Shep's dead and thre are just rumors that Shepard's death isn't true so she's confused. My Shep's get taken aback though, but they come to the revelation that she was at their funerals.

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"Loved you" makes perfects sense. Shep was dead, a) and B) later we find out Ash hasn't "let herself think of the memories in over a year" so the past tense is a way for her to distance herself, albeit probably not very convincingly, from her feelings for Shepard.

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Badpie wrote...

"Loved you" makes perfects sense. Shep was dead, a) and B) later we find out Ash hasn't "let herself think of the memories in over a year" so the past tense is a way for her to distance herself, albeit probably not very convincingly, from her feelings for Shepard.


Oh no, "loved" makes perfect sense.  I didn't mean to imply that it didn't.  But I'd argue that it makes sense only for Ash.  From where Shepard's standing (at least the way I see it) it doesn't make sense.  Sure, everyone keeps telling him that it's been two years, but to some extent no matter what proof he's given, he still doesn't believe it.  So when my Shep hears that use of the past tense, he sort of shuts down...I feel he just lets all of his frustration loose at that point, and Ash is the unlucky target.  It explains why he says stupid things to Ash (like "you're too emotional").  At that point, I think to some extent he just wants to hurt her. 

Again though, this is just the way I interpret my Shep on Horizon.  To each their own.^_^

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Hello. Just wanted to show my support for Ashley. Hope she's back in ME3 as a squadmate. She's way awesome and I really like her. A really great character.

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Batlass8 wrote...

@Kate: That picture is my favorite Ash-hug.  Not necessarily because I see her and Joker as a great couple (Ash and Shep are my OTP), but because it is so frakking adorable.  I mean, she's wearing his hat! :wub: (However, my canon fem!Shep would invent a time machine for the sole purpose of leaving Ash on Virmire if she ever thought Williams was putting the moves on Joker...)

I go back and forth on my feelings about Virmire.  On the one hand, it's in-character.  Ash wouldn't buy Shep's sudden 180, and she wouldn't leave her place with the Alliance and follow him on a whim.  On the other hand, I don't think she'd jump to call him a traitor either, especially since she grew up in a blacklisted family.  And...that terrible dialogue.  Although I do love that one line "I loved you."  My canon!Shep always stops listening to what she's saying at that point because he's hung up on the fact that she loved him.  As in no longer loves.  At least that's what I tell myself to explain his terrible dialogue...:(


Ah yes, "past tense"...

I don't know, I had just assumed she was speaking out of hurt. That's why I have no truly negative feelings against her or the whole Horizon situation. Along with...conflicting loyalties, people say things they don't mean in such situations. I feel the VS is desperately trying to preserve themselves, staying on the defensive so those opened wounds don't get air and salt on them (I would say Shepard's whole "how you doin'?" approach is proverbial salt in those wounds he/she himself brought up) and leaves before it gets any worse.

That's where the email comes in...granted, I feel an email should be sent even if you weren't in love (maybe a romantic one and a friendly one? As long s you weren't a complete jerk?), but I think, in the case where it IS sent, it proves that Ashley still cares. I think her saying she can't bear to loose Shepard again is proof enough she still loves him, even if she doesn't want to or won't come right out with it. After all, she's the one who did the best job of getting over him. She had a mourning period and moved on in the most normal fashion. I imagine she wants to keep all her emotions in check, but when he reappears so suddenly...well, it's difficult.

If only the SR-2's computers had a response button.

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Hi guys, don't know if you've seen this yet. I stumbled upon an interview online with some of the cast of ME1 & 2, Kimberly Brooks included. One of the questions made me even more excited about the possibility of a VS dlc and Ash appearing in ME3. It might mean nothing but I'd thought I would share anyways.



"Retroplayer- How do you want Mass Effect to be remembered?

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Kimberly Brooks (Ashley)- As a never-ending, on-going Epic game that is constantly evolving. . . and keeping me employed!"



here you go:

http://thegaminglibe...view-part-four/



Might be a chance of seeing our girl soon? And it was nice to see what the lady behind Ash thought about her :D



*returns to the shadows*


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I like her honesty. :D




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Shame that Brooks has even noticed the haters =( Atleast she dosen't take it personally. I guess it has proven how engaging Ash is as a character, if people need to hate her (or love her) so much.


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I just found this pic.

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Another from FreeCam. *still waits for DLC.. >.> *