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The 'official' Ashley Williams support thread 1.1


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Hi all,
I just discovered the Mass Effect series about a week ago.  Since then I've barely slept playing these two games.  And like you all, I was enamoured by Ashley in the first one, so much so that although tempted I made sure to stay away from any potential funny business with anyone in ME2.  I haven't made it through all 1,900 pages of the original Ash support thread and this new one, but I've read enough to get a feeling of what people are thinking and here's how this newcomer sees it (in case anyone cares).

I am really into Ashley and want nothing more than to see her and Shep end up permanently together, madly in love and settle down having little Shep children who we can play in future ME games to save the universe some more.  Like many of you I was pretty pissed at the Ash interaction in ME2.  One forum poster came up with a fake interaction screen showing the Ash scene on Horizon and the fake choices were something like tell her you love her, kiss her, ravage her behind some crates, or a renegade choice "act emotionless like you just saw a casual acquaintance" or something like that.  Couldn't agree more, that's how the scene felt.  When Shep said "it'll be just like old times" I wanted to put a bullet through the LCD screen, could you think up a worse line to say to try to start rekindling a romance with someone who thought you were dead for two years?  Another poster listed a bunch of things they were hoping to do in the game but couldn't and I couldn't agree more with them (like email her back, go find her at the Citadel, tell her you had been actively trying to find her instead of letting her get away with that "why didn't you try to find me" crap).  I also thought that part in her email about "I can't go where you're going" was a throwaway line, the dev's needed to put that in there as a weak excuse why she couldn't join the crew.

I'm surprised there were a lot of people on the forum trying to rationalize Ash's behavior in ME2.  It helps me be less disappointed in the whole interaction remembering why they did it the way they did.  This is not a new discovery but seems pretty clear that the only reason for the horrendous role Bioware scripted for Ash in ME2 was to serve as a giant emotional Alley-Oop for an ME3 reunion.  That plus maybe give people more of an incentive to cheat in ME2 (screw that stuck-up Ashley, I'll bone Miranda) - also for more fireworks in ME3.  That being said, that "great reward" or whatever the developer mentioned for those who stay loyal had better not be something stupid like an achievement or bonus credits - it had better be nothing less than an awesome emotional reconnection scene between Ash and Shepard.

Many have expressed desire for an Ashley/Kaidan DLC prior to ME3.  I want nothing more than to find out what the next canon interaction between Ash and Shep will be.  However I don't think there will be any Ash/Kaidan DLC (at least none that involves Shep) for the same reason the Ash interaction was balls terrible in ME2 - i.e., to not cannibalize potential emotional highs from ME3.  If there is an Ash DLC, it will probably be something where you play her and you see her role post-Horizon but Shep won't be in it.  Maybe there will be something like she has a picture of Shep in her apartment like Shep had of her in ME2, that would be classy.  But I could be wrong, I heard the Shadow Broker DLC let you further your Liara relationship if you had one.  But Bioware is smart and I think everything they do is with an eye towards giving us the ending us Ash fans are hoping for in ME3.  That being said, if they don't, or it's just hinted at like that stupid email...well that poster who referenced Tom Cruise on the phone in Tropic Thunder had it pretty dead on.

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Chapter 11 of my Ash/Shep fanfic is up.Posted Image
www.fanfiction.net/u/2717218/


Normally I hate fan fiction - writers take too many liberties, it doesn't make sense, not believeable, poorly written, glosses over things which should have detail, etc.  I haven't read any in forever.  However I was curious so I checked out Milla's.  In summary I haven't read a work of fiction in years that I've enjoyed as much as reading Milla's work above.  So well written, real depth.  And the story unfolds in an extremely realistic way (within the ME universe of course).  Good job Milla.  Hurry up with more!  The only thing I wish was each chapter was much longer and more drawn out, to prolong the anticipation, but written with the exact same quality and style.  But  at that point it would be a real novel and you'd need real money (and a lot more time) to write it!

Anyway sorry for the long post.  Needless to say I am counting down the days until ME3 comes out, I don't think we'll see any Bioware Shep/Ash interaction until then (at least nothing that will bring them together).

'Dubs

Modifié par Rdubs, 13 février 2011 - 09:39 .


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oh.... daaaayum ... lol

I read all of that and pretty much agree with everything... though I think you may be giving bioware a little too much credit.... after all the shrugging off they've done to Ashley (and Kaidan), I just don't see some amazing reunion in ME3. We can hope though!!!

About Kimberly Brooks not being Ashley:

That would be unacceptable!!!!! It would completely ruin her character as brooks' tone and the way she delivers her lines are as much a part of Ashley as her lips (god I love those lol) or her bun or her (even though some of you dislike it) iconic phoenix armor are!!!

I'd still buy the game, but Ash would be left standing in the corner, never to be talked to again..... and that would be horrible... T_T


EDIT: oh and I forgot, but welcome to the Ash fandom Dubs! XD

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@Rdubs  It's always nice to have more pro Ash people in the ranks, so welcome!  You may be right about the VS dlc not happening.  I hope not, but I can picture Bioware holding off on any kind of "closure" for the Ash/Kaiden fans till ME3.  There's a lot about the Horizon scene that makes me crazy, the writing and options being at the top of that list.  We can only hope that this will be rectified by an appropriate reunion between Ash and Shep in the future.  Till then i'll stick to the threads in hopes that my fellow Ashoholics can keep me sane. :)  I'm really glad you took the time to read my fic and actually like it.  :)  ^^You pretty much made my day, so thanks!  Recently with school and other real life road blocks, I haven't had quite as much time to write, but more chapters will be available shortly.   With that said, I believe it's time for some Ashsomeness.  :wub:


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Thanks Reed for the thoughts and Milla for responding, plus of course your awesome work.
Took a while to find it but here is the funny pic I was referencing.  I swear we all must have missed this dialogue screen because having it auto-select seems to be the most plausible reason for the rest of the scene:

http://social.biowar...431/954#2059772
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And here's a question, is this a piece of fan art or something taken from the game?  It looks so high quality I can't imagine it could be something other than a scene in the game that I must have missed.
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I don't think anyone save Kimberly Brooks should ever voice Ash! It's reached the point where if I hear her voice-acting another character, my immediate reaction is "Ash? Why are you pursuing an acting career? There's no time!! The Reapers are coming!"



I'm highly auditory in my learning style, so I would spend all of Mass Effect 3 being terribly confused by the new VA, and wondering who went all Single White Female on Ash while we weren't looking.

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Kimberly Brooks....PERIOD!!!!!!!!

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Chignon wrote...

There's a new poll and Ash is in desperate need of some votes.

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Where did you find this AWESOME pic?

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Hey Ashaholics......our girl needs a theme song......I'm doing my own research right now. Does anyone have any suggestions?


Here are my nominations: Oh yeah, I'm a HUGE Yokko Kanno fan by the way.Posted Image






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The sound of our hearts accelerating in their paces is the only "theme song" I can think of...

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Rdubs wrote...

And here's a question, is this a piece of fan art or something taken from the game?  It looks so high quality I can't imagine it could be something other than a scene in the game that I must have missed.
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I believe this is a very well done piece of fan art. 

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MillaShepard

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As for an Ashley theme song...  I choose Glory Box by Portishead.  May seem like a strange choice, but this song reminds me of Ash... a lot.  Check it out and let me know what you think.

www.youtube.com/watch

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I don't have many thoughts on an Ashley theme song. However, thinking about theme songs I did have one come across my mind thinking about the Ash/Shep relationship, namely the way she walked away on Horizon with Shep staying faithful to her. The song is called "Austin" by Blake Sheldon. It's about a woman who says she needs some time away and how the guy carries her love. I'd post the lyrics here but it's a lot better to hear it, well worth the 99 cents on iTunes (or whatever it's up to now).

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[quote]Rdubs wrote...

 well that poster who referenced Tom Cruise on the phone in Tropic Thunder had it pretty dead on.

That would be me! WAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Awhile back somebody posted an Ash Shep music video with the song Never Too Late by Three Days Grace playing.  That hit the nail on the head for me.

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Ddubs- "Well that poster who referenced Tom Cruise on the phone in Tropic thunder had it pretty dead on"

That would be me! WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

(ahem)

A while back somebody posted a music video about Shep/Ash with the song Never Too Late by Three Days Grace playing in the background... That hit the nail on the head and almost brought me to tears.

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Prince of Kemet wrote...

Hey Ashaholics......our girl needs a theme song......I'm doing my own research right now. Does anyone have any suggestions?


Here are my nominations: Oh yeah, I'm a HUGE Yokko Kanno fan by the way.Posted Image






Odd One by Sick Puppies is my personal pick. I think it especially works for Ash and Shep.:wub:

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Now why can't the game be just like that wheel pic with the 'kiss her and tell her you love her' when you meet ash on horizon not the crummy, 'it's good to see you again ash" crap

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

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I can say though that was what my Shep was thinking when he finally met her.

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Millashep how long are you going to keep us guessing and waiting for chapter 12?

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DaVanguard wrote...

Millashep how long are you going to keep us guessing and waiting for chapter 12?


Working on it now.   Will definately be up by tomorrow. Posted Image

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Nobody has anything to say about my comment?

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shadowhawk233 wrote...

Nobody has anything to say about my comment?

Shadowhawk, everybody wanted that dialogue option right then.  We just don't like to think about what our time  could've been like with Ash in ME2.
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Rdubs wrote...

Thanks Reed for the thoughts and Milla for responding, plus of course your awesome work.
Took a while to find it but here is the funny pic I was referencing.  I swear we all must have missed this dialogue screen because having it auto-select seems to be the most plausible reason for the rest of the scene:

http://social.biowar...431/954#2059772
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OMG, this picture is full of WIN!!!!

Normally, I'm renegade on most all choices.... but this one... I'm torn b/w it and the paragon response!!! 
Too bad there wasn't a hard choice like that IN GAME... all the choices were crap... and I played through EVERY FREAKING ONE OF THEM... hoping for a better resolution to the reunion. T_T

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That Horizon picture basically sums up my entire feelings of the reuinion.

Of all the other options that existed, all of which were far more appropriate for meeting an estranged loved one, why Shepard had to go for the blandest and most emotionally devoid one shocks me.



Honestly though, that whole scene I felt like I was a frustrated film director and I was yelling at Shepard who was my lead actor:

"EMOTE DAMN YOU, EMOTE!!"