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[KendallX23]

where would Ashley be in 20 years..hard to say..dpeends on what happens in ME3...but if u ask me she would still be in the Alliance fighting and stuff....and if she romances Shepard...married with Shepard and with kid/kids///i don't see Ash staying off duty for long

[drunken pyromaniac]

Somebody1003 wrote...

I dont either, I mean Cerberus was probably paying him a huge amount of credits...

But yeah, I see what you mean, and I agree that seems more likely.

Plus,  he was spouting that whole this is for the good of the galaxy BS.

The fading away thing also allows for people to imagine the ending to Shepard's story they want.

[drunken pyromaniac]

Besides being your love interest, what are some reasons you would save Ashley on Virmire?

[epoch_]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Besides being your love interest, what are some reasons you would save Ashley on Virmire?

She has a family she really seems to care about. I don't think Kaidan mentions his family.

[KendallX23]

erm...better soldier then Kaidan ?and my favourite but not very smart or viable if it were real...becuase Kaidan annoys me sometimes...

[Errol Dnamyx]

I avoid that problem by letting her guard the bomb. In my opinion this is the single most important part of the whole mission and I can live with sacrificing Carth... erm Kaidan and a few Salarians in order to stop Saren from aquiring an army of Krogan. Therefore Shepard always goes back to Ash to help her out.  You see, I don´t have a choice... sry, Kaidan.

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 03 juin 2010 - 06:53 .

[ashlover mark 2]

@pyro even though the main reason is beacuz shes my one and only LI here is a list of my other reasons.

1.shes an unstopable tank in combat.
2shes hot.
3.she has a mother and 3 sisters who would be heart broken if she died.
4.shes the most in depth and human crew member.
5.she has the best one liners and qotes in the game.
6.shes tough,but sensitive.
7.she has a great personality and is very loyal.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 03 juin 2010 - 06:52 .

[GRISHASAUR]

she was with the bomb

[drunken pyromaniac]

I think it was meant more along the lines of how you justify saving her instead of a superior officer with the hard to find and train biotic abilities.
My reasons were this.
1. In a war against ancient, sentient, machines of death, doom, and destruction it doesn't really matter who you choose. Both are useless against the Reapers on a larger scale then in engaging with enemy troops.
2. Whoever is manning the bomb is the priority to save for me, thus just send whover you'd rather die to fight with the salarians.
3. She may be more useful to Shepard (depending on his/her class) on the battlefield.
4. As a Spectre, I assume Shepard is now free of Alliance protocol on who he has to save.
5. If she is the LI, a grieving Shepard would be less effective and distracted from the task at hand.

Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 03 juin 2010 - 07:02 .

[RazerPhoenix]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Besides being your love interest, what are some reasons you would save Ashley on Virmire?

She is the logical choice. It makes sense to send the second most superior officer to lead the other fireteam, which means that Ashley will always be with you at the bomb site.

Later you are forced to choose between rescuing the other fireteam or protecting the bomb for as long as possible. Logically you should always choose to protect the bomb for as long as possible to ensure mission success which thus means Ashley is saved.

[ashlover mark 2]

i like too send ashley with the salarians for 4 reasons



1.i like when she says that it feels weird going unders someone elses command,and that shes gotten use too working with the team (including the aliens) it shows that she dose not have a prob with the alien team members and that she may actually like them.



2.i like being forced too the AA tower to save her beacuz saren holding shep with one arm off a cliff is more epic than saren just holding him.



3.kaidan gets a heroic fight too the death secene.



4.Bomb gose off not matter who you save and where there are *shrugg*

[SilverRose208]

I always sent her with the Salarians and justified it as saving an alien team - council operatives, no less - would help to improve relations with the Citadel (a stated priority for the Alliance) and all that jazz. Thought Kaidan was competent enough to get the bomb set off; thought correctly.



Also ... that voice ... on the com ... Just can't do it. Even in femshep playthroughs when I have steeled myself against leaving her behind - still can't do it. Sorry Kai.

[KendallX23]

RazerPhoenix wrote...

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Besides being your love interest, what are some reasons you would save Ashley on Virmire?

She is the logical choice. It makes sense to send the second most superior officer to lead the other fireteam, which means that Ashley will always be with you at the bomb site.

Later you are forced to choose between rescuing the other fireteam or protecting the bomb for as long as possible. Logically you should always choose to protect the bomb for as long as possible to ensure mission success which thus means Ashley is saved.

lol..made no sense for me when i did it..since i let Kaidan guard the bomb and Ashley go with Kirahe i guess i made the wrong choice....but i trust in Kaidan...and also i like Kirahe more then him..even though he was just on Virmire

[Errol Dnamyx]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

5. If she is the LI, a grieving Shepard would be less effective and distracted from the task at hand.

Ooooor he becomes even more determined to make Saren pay and finish the mission so he himself can finally find peace...

[ashlover mark 2]

you guyz do know that kirrahe survies weither you goo to the AA tower or not right? all you have too do is help the seacond fire team out as you make your way to and through the base.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 03 juin 2010 - 07:10 .

[KendallX23]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

you guyz do know that kirrahe survies weither you goo to the AA tower or not right? all you have too do is help the seacond fire team out as you make your way to and through the base.

maybe..but i wanted Ash to fight with the salarians

[SilverRose208]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...



you guyz do know that kirrahe survies weither you goo to the AA tower or not right? all you have too do is help the seacond fire team out as you make your way to and through the base.

Umm... Really? You get happy little salarian STGs in the garage no matter what? Even if choose to leave one of your people behind with them, everyone makes it out except for Ash/Kai? That's so contrived. I'm glad I didn't know that in my playthroughs of ME1, or else there would've been a 360 controller chucked against a wall.

[ashlover mark 2]

yea lol all you have too do is disrupt the comms,destroy the geth flyers,and NOT trigger the base alarms and kirrahe will live regardless of who you chose to go with the slarians and who you decide too save in the end.


EDIT:@silv actually not no matter what,you have too choose too hlep him and his men or he will die.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 03 juin 2010 - 07:21 .

[drunken pyromaniac]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...


Ooooor he becomes even more determined to make Saren pay and finish the mission so he himself can finally find peace...

I've always despised that idea. Most people when they lose a loved one are wracked with grief, not filled with a thirst for revenge.

[Errol Dnamyx]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...


Ooooor he becomes even more determined to make Saren pay and finish the mission so he himself can finally find peace...

I've always despised that idea. Most people when they lose a loved one are wracked with grief, not filled with a thirst for revenge.

If Ash died from some kind of accident or disease, yes. But in this situation Shepard can make someone responsible for his loss and use his anger to push himself further than he usually could go.

[drunken pyromaniac]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

If Ash died from some kind of accident or disease, yes. But in this situation Shepard can make someone responsible for his loss and use his anger to push himself further than he usually could go.

Still, it's a cheap and lazy attempt to insert drama in the situation. Very few people would react like that in real life. I would hate to see Shepard reduced to the emotional complexity of Rambo.

[VutaatVerd]

drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

If Ash died from some kind of accident or disease, yes. But in this situation Shepard can make someone responsible for his loss and use his anger to push himself further than he usually could go.

Still, it's a cheap and lazy attempt to insert drama in the situation. Very few people would react like that in real life. I would hate to see Shepard reduced to the emotional complexity of Rambo.

John J. Rambo, while he did kill some for the woman he cared about. i'd like to think he did it for the captured POW's more. Shepard unless Renegade would not do something like this, such a life saver he is. He Shepard would even take a bullet (or more ie nuke to the face) for Ashley in my opinion.

[drunken pyromaniac]

VutaatVerd wrote...


John J. Rambo, while he did kill some for the woman he cared about. i'd like to think he did it for the captured POW's more. Shepard unless Renegade would not do something like this, such a life saver he is. He Shepard would even take a bullet (or more ie nuke to the face) for Ashley in my opinion.

I really just pulled out Rambo as an example of a two-dimensional character. The fact remains that it's a cheap attempt to extract sympathy, not well-done drama.